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Taking up a glued down vinyl sheet floor. The wear surface separates from the backing. Heat seems to be the answer, so off to HF I went and got one there. They didn't have to one I wanted, despite the website saying they were in stock. Hopefully it'll get me through this little project.
 
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sometimes on line inventories (at any retailer) are not 100% accurate?

Usually HF is fine unless it states "stock is limited" which usually means it is out. Not always.
 

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sometimes on line inventories (at any retailer) are not 100% accurate?

Usually HF is fine unless it states "stock is limited" which usually means it is out. Not always.

HF web site inventory is updated when the truck drops off the stock. The web site may not match the shelf, ask if whatever it is you’re looking for is in the back.

HF inventory on line also shows one less than the store actually has. It’ll show out of stock when there’s one left on the shelf.
 

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HF web site inventory is updated when the truck drops off the stock. The web site may not match the shelf, ask if whatever it is you’re looking for is in the back.

HF inventory on line also shows one less than the store actually has. It’ll show out of stock when there’s one left on the shelf.
No doubt I guess I don't live in perfect world.

Was looking for a Bauer battery pack/charger that had a free tool special but "limited stock, so hurry". called and the one lazy cashier at the store, "We show four in stock".

Make the trip there, the hard working clerk looks and can none anywhere (including the back). Maybe they were stolen, but there they were not, was in the store.

Perhaps I should not have used the term "usually" but it happened another time with Icon snap ring pliers
 

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I bet they had a propane torch, the type used to burn weeds or for 'torch-down' roofing material. I dunno that I'd want something like that being used inside. There's a reason 'hot-work' permits are required, and that a specified amount of time is required to be posted ('fire watch') once the torch is shut-off.
 
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I have a propane weed burner, and it would make short work of it. The heat gun works, but slow. I had to make a stand for it to hold it pointing down, and free up my other hand, to hold me up!
 

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Maybe microwave a big wet beach towel. Laid out to cover in the next 12 inches of work. Rotate a couple of them. Will keep the dust down and there should be minimum odor. Or just pour boiling water on the same towel in place.

Or maybe a regular old clothes iron on top of a hand towel
 

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That "Backing" a white papery/fuzzy material? Probably Asbestos. Get it checked...
 

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Hope it holds up better than the 50 dollar craftsman one I got at Lowe's a couple years ago. Long story short it crapped out after I stripped my kitchen floor. About 120 sq. Ft. Lowe's said tough bananas finally got a new one from craftsman.
 

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PSA. Do not ever leave a heat gun plugged in unattended. Buddy had one burn his shop down!
 
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As usual, printed instructions ****. But after some use, I kinda figured this thing out. Have the temp turned up enough to soften the adhesive, just takes time. The only thing I can't figure out now, is somehow I changed the temp readings from Fahrenheit to Celsius when pressing the control buttons with gloves on, and can't get it back. Not a game changer I just would rather use what I'm accustom to.
 

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What does the manual say? If you don't have it, you should be able to find one online.

To get a rough estimate, just divide F by 2 to get C. Or times 2 for going from C to F. You don't need to be more-accurate than that for what you are doing.

9/5(C) + 32 = F

9/5 X 100 + 32 = 212* F
 

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As usual, printed instructions ****. But after some use, I kinda figured this thing out. Have the temp turned up enough to soften the adhesive, just takes time. The only thing I can't figure out now, is somehow I changed the temp readings from Fahrenheit to Celsius when pressing the control buttons with gloves on, and can't get it back. Not a game changer I just would rather use what I'm accustom to.


If you need a manual for a heat gun .... 😬
 
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If you need a manual for a heat gun .... 😬
You realize there can be numerous adjustments for higher quality heat guns,
as well as general safety information that the average person may not know if they have never had a course in “heat guns” right ?

Have you ever had a school or work course on how to use a heat gun?

Ikea tried to market inflatable furniture years ago for easy transport and flat packing, but discontinued the furniture due to too many warrantee returns.
The issue, was apparently that people were using hair dryers and heat guns, (some of which just have an unheated air setting), to blow up the furniture, and the heat from not turning off the heat function was melting the air fill valves on the furniture.

Admittedly, some manuals ****, but general information that might be included in a manual on heat gun.
How quickly does the heat gun get up to temperature.
How many heat settings foes the heat gun have, and what are the approximate temperatures of those heat settings.
Is there an “air only” setting, just for blowing room temperature air.
If the heat setting are regulated to an approximate temperature, were or how far in relation to the heat gun tip is this regulated temperature likely to be found. (Closer to the tip may be hotter, farther away cooler).
How to attach the heat gun tips to the heat gun.
What are the individual types of heat gun tips used for. (It’s not uncommon for users to not know this, particularly for certain tips, or even to know the variety of tip types that exist).
Will the tip type used affect the temperature?
General safety information, such as how to remove tips if the heatgun is still hot, and not to place the heat gun down while the tip is still hot, or may be.
Not yo use the heatgun in areas in areas with flammable vapors or gasses.
Etc.
 

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You realize there can be numerous adjustments for higher quality heat guns,
as well as general safety information that the average person may not know if they have never had a course in “heat guns” right ?

Have you ever had a school or work course on how to use a heat gun?

Ikea tried to market inflatable furniture years ago for easy transport and flat packing, but discontinued the furniture due to too many warrantee returns.
The issue, was apparently that people were using hair dryers and heat guns, (some of which just have an unheated air setting), to blow up the furniture, and the heat from not turning off the heat function was melting the air fill valves on the furniture.

Admittedly, some manuals ****, but general information that might be included in a manual on heat gun.
How quickly does the heat gun get up to temperature.
How many heat settings foes the heat gun have, and what are the approximate temperatures of those heat settings.
Is there an “air only” setting, just for blowing room temperature air.
If the heat setting are regulated to an approximate temperature, were or how far in relation to the heat gun tip is this regulated temperature likely to be found. (Closer to the tip may be hotter, farther away cooler).
How to attach the heat gun tips to the heat gun.
What are the individual types of heat gun tips used for. (It’s not uncommon for users to not know this, particularly for certain tips, or even to know the variety of tip types that exist).
Will the tip type used affect the temperature?
General safety information, such as how to remove tips if the heatgun is still hot, and not to place the heat gun down while the tip is still hot, or may be.
Not yo use the heatgun in areas in areas with flammable vapors or gasses.
Etc.
This response was a joke, right? Or were you just posting to throw shade on tarbellb?
A course in heat guns? Right.
Numerous adjustments? Probably one or two switches, high & low temp, high & low blower. What else couod there be?
How quickly does it get up to temp. Unless this is for a scientific application … turn it on, it gets hot.
 
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This response was a joke, right? Or were you just posting to throw shade on tarbellb?
A course in heat guns? Right.
Numerous adjustments? Probably one or two switches, high & low temp, high & low blower. What else couod there be?
How quickly does it get up to temp. Unless this is for a scientific application … turn it on, it gets hot.
Thank you Old Tool Guy. I probably wouldn't have been quite as nice with my reply.

I have a kitchen food thermometer, a popular brand. Every once in a while if you hit one of the buttons wrong, or twice, or...it changes to C. THOSE directions have how to change the readings.
 
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This response was a joke, right? Or were you just posting to throw shade on tarbellb?
A course in heat guns? Right.
Numerous adjustments? Probably one or two switches, high & low temp, high & low blower. What else couod there be?
How quickly does it get up to temp. Unless this is for a scientific application … turn it on, it gets hot.
These are the controls on the specific Harbor Freight Heat Gun linked above.
It has 6 separate buttons, and three separate tips.
It has an On/Off button,
Two separate buttons for increasing and decreasing fan speeds,
Two separate buttons for increasing and decreasing temperature,
A separate “Cool Down button”,
And An LCD Display to display temperature, with other icons presumably to indicate the setting some of the specific buttons adjust.
A hanging hook that can be adjusted for stationary use by resting the heat gun on its back.

Could a person of reasonable intelligence figure most of these things out with use, probably.
Would a user necessarily figure out what all the individual setting were that they might find useful immediately upon use. I doubt it.

User manuals exist for a reason.
I’ve known engineering graduates who didn’t realize that different woods with the same term in the name such as “Cedar” or “Ironwood” were completely different species of lumber,
And watched “professionals” training others, who didn’t know about the flush cutting feature on Bosch jigsaws, or plunge cutting, or his yo change the blades, or what the blade terminology meant.
 

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These are the controls on the specific Harbor Freight Heat Gun linked above.
It has 6 separate buttons, and three separate tips.
It has an On/Off button,
Two separate buttons for increasing and decreasing fan speeds,
Two separate buttons for increasing and decreasing temperature,
A separate “Cool Down button”,
And An LCD Display to display temperature, with other icons presumably to indicate the setting some of the specific buttons adjust.
A hanging hook that can be adjusted for stationary use by resting the heat gun on its back.

Could a person of reasonable intelligence figure most of these things out with use, probably.
Would a user necessarily figure out what all the individual setting were that they might find useful immediately upon use. I doubt it.

User manuals exist for a reason.
I’ve known engineering graduates who didn’t realize that different woods with the same term in the name such as “Cedar” or “Ironwood” were completely different species of lumber,
And watched “professionals” training others, who didn’t know about the flush cutting feature on Bosch jigsaws, or plunge cutting, or his yo change the blades, or what the blade terminology meant.
Sorry, forgot pics.
 

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Thank you Old Tool Guy. I probably wouldn't have been quite as nice with my reply.

I have a kitchen food thermometer, a popular brand. Every once in a while if you hit one of the buttons wrong, or twice, or...it changes to C. THOSE directions have how to change the readings.
This also applies to this model of heat gun.
 

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On HF inventory......

I went there yesterday to get a roll of .023 welding wire for my Mig (bought it there before) but now it seems they don't stock it. The manager happened to be at the register as I was asking about it, I said I would even take an 11 lb spool if they didn't have the 2lb one.....he said hang on a minute and went to "the back". Came back with a very dusty 11 lb roll and said he'd give me 20% off if I wanted it. Score!

Never hurts to ask is the point......
 

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If it was a flame thrower then yeah, you cant stick your hand in front to detect temps

But this is a heat gun, a fancy one I suppose, but its hotter, colder, aim, shoot, dont leave on
 

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If you need a manual for a heat gun .... 😬
Well there’s the on button and then there’s the off button. If your ever confused you could grab an ice cube right quick from your freezer and have the switch on one setting. Now point the end of the heat gun at the ice cube. If you see the ice start to melt then that setting was the on button. If the ice stays ice then that was the off button.
 

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Looks like a nice heat gun but I’ll have to wait for my $12 “Wen” model to give out first.
 

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If you need a manual for a heat gun, find something else. I once bought a coffeemaker with that kind of ****. Had to get the manual out every time I wanted to change the time setting. It went into the garbage before long and I found one with labeled buttons. Every thing you buy should not require a manual.
 

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If you need a manual for a heat gun, find something else. I once bought a coffeemaker with that kind of ****. Had to get the manual out every time I wanted to change the time setting. It went into the garbage before long and I found one with labeled buttons. Every thing you buy should not require a manual.
Driving by on trash day I spied your coffee maker. Cleaned it up, works great! Thanks!
 

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If it was a flame thrower then yeah, you cant stick your hand in front to detect temps

But this is a heat gun, a fancy one I suppose, but its hotter, colder, aim, shoot, dont leave on
Well there’s the on button and then there’s the off button. If your ever confused you could grab an ice cube right quick from your freezer and have the switch on one setting. Now point the end of the heat gun at the ice cube. If you see the ice start to melt then that setting was the on button. If the ice stays ice then that was the off button.
The ideal temperature used for certain tasks will vary, which is the reason the heat gun allegedly has “108 heat settings”.
The ideal amount of air the heat gun shoots will also effect the amount of heat at a certain distance, and were that heat goes.
The fact that I linked to sections of the manual and you can’t even mention what those sections are, sort of shows that some people DO NEED a manual for a heat gun.
Also, if you point a heat gun at an ice cube and the ice cube starts to melt, the heat gun might be on, or it just might be a hot day, and the heat gun is blowing room temperature air at the ice cube.
This heat gun with its digital controls is obviously trying to copy the fancy heat guns made by Steinel, some of which allow you to program specific memorized heat settings, so actually knowing how the heat gun works will prevent a normal user of a Steinel heat gun from potentially wasting time trying to find a setting that doesn’t exist.
Knowing the heat gun turns on at the lowest setting will prevent a user from expecting the heat setting from being the same as when the gun was turned off, and wasting time blowing cold air.
Safety recommendations don’t just include Don’t leave the heat gun on” they also should include, don’t touch potentially flammable materials with the steel heat gun tip.
Advice like yours is why OSHA exists, and companies have to pay craploads for worker’s comp insurance for employees.



If you need a manual for a heat gun, find something else. I once bought a coffeemaker with that kind of ****. Had to get the manual out every time I wanted to change the time setting. It went into the garbage before long and I found one with labeled buttons. Every thing you buy should not require a manual.
There are “fancy” heat guns nowadays, and for the past 30 years, that were designed to make the heat guns more versatile, and more adjustable, to make certain tasks more reliable.
Steinel and Master Appliance both manufacture the “fancy” heat guns.
Being able to more accurately adjust temperatures allows the heat gun to be more safety used to remove decals or stickers, or other materials from A surface, without dsmaging the underlying surface, and maybe even allowing the decals or stickers to be saved.
Master Appliance has a heat gun with a sensor that measures temperature on the surface being heated, so the heat gun doesn’t screw up the painted surface of something like a car when removing decals or stickers a delinquent might have slapped on the car.
If you are using the heat gun to bend or form plastic, there is a minimum and maximum heat range, and most heat guns can go above the “Oh Sh!t” temperature.
Adjustable Fan speed may be useful when inflating inflatable furniture or other items that vary in size, and durability.
If you just want a “Dumb” heat gun, with two switches or buttons, those are still available, from cheap Harbor Freight models, to expensive “Industrial” models, like the decades old Master Appliance models Bosch used to rebrand, or Leister and Steinel “Industrial” models, that can cost close to $1,000.
 

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It’s a heat gun. Do you also need instructions for a #2 yellow Ticonderoga?
You realize “Ticonderoga” is just a brand name now, and the pencils are sometimes produced in half a different countries, with major differences in quality with the pencil lead, wood used, and eraser quality ?
Differences in lead quality can lead to smudgy pencil marks that don’t erase well, or leads that frequently break.
Poor quality wood can lead to pencils that warp and bend, also causing lead breakage, and cheap erasers don’t erase well.
Also, given that numerous school children don’t know how to read time off of an “old fashioned” analog clock with hands, and how cheap and available mechanical pencils are now, it really would not surprise me if numerous school children also didn’t know how to sharpen a pencil.
 
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