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Two things I'll mention about Wera that I haven't seen mentioned in case anyone finds it valuable. One is that those of their phillips bits that have the tiny diamonds impregnated in the tip are better at anti cam-out than any others I've used. The other is that the (uninsulated) Wera torque screwdrivers that take interchangeable bits accept regular power bits. They don't force you to buy a special set of bits from them, which most other manufacturers I've seen do. The VDE Torque screwdriver uses their special insulated bits, but it's still my favorite set for that kind of work. It used to be, if you could wait a month, some of their stuff was marginally less expensive to buy on German Amazon, but more recently Amazon seems no longer to be what once it was.
 
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Some of the machines at my old work had Tool-Checks at the operator stations for basic maintenance. Really nice kits, and I absolutely beat on that ratchet with a cheater once while changing out an assembly, as it was the only thing we had that would fit clearance wise.

Great set.
 

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Wera Tool Check Plus is great... but the handle that is included doesn't feel right in my hand. I have always included a full sized handle with the kit where ever I store the Tool Check Plus.

Today... I finally picked the BEST handle that I have wanted since I found it. I get a free tool each month ... thanks to credits. This is the Wera "Speed" handle... it spins at a 4 to 1 ratio
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Wera Tool Check Plus is great... but the handle that is included doesn't feel right in my hand. I have always included a full sized handle with the kit where ever I store the Tool Check Plus.

Today... I finally picked the BEST handle that I have wanted since I found it. I get a free tool each month ... thanks to credits. This is the Wera "Speed" handle... it spins at a 4 to 1 ratio
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Those handles are quite small.

Wera would probably argue that the kit is designed for difficult access, but anything bigger wouldn’t fit the holder..!

If you like a heftier Wera option, how about the new 921 impact driver?CC2EEAA1-7921-44E6-BB6A-2B14F9E42381.jpeg179F9C6D-6DDF-448D-BF5B-1FD773D2BC10.jpeg
 

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Those handles are quite small.

Wera would probably argue that the kit is designed for difficult access, but anything bigger wouldn’t fit the holder..!

If you like a heftier Wera option, how about the new 921 impact driver?CC2EEAA1-7921-44E6-BB6A-2B14F9E42381.jpeg179F9C6D-6DDF-448D-BF5B-1FD773D2BC10.jpeg
Looks nice but it doesn't fill my needs. I really wan't the "speed" part of the 826T. I have an impact driver that's 20+ years old... is 100% metal and only gets use 1 or 2 times a year.
 

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Looks nice but it doesn't fill my needs. I really wan't the "speed" part of the 826T. I have an impact driver that's 20+ years old... is 100% metal and only gets use 1 or 2 times a year.
I understand. I haven’t tried the 826T.

I’ve got so many bit drivers that if I need one I’ve usually got one in every tool bag, if not my pocket!

The only Wera one I use regularly is this Kompact 60 that came with a set of stainless bits. I tend to carry this if I’m doing electrical work, so I know I’ve got one of most bits if needed, and a spare set for my impact driver.

Nice useful set. You can use the longer bits on terminals where you might struggle with a short 1/4” bit!
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Those handles are quite small.
The Turbo or the one that ships in the Tool Check?

If you mean the one in the TC, yeah that's one of the tinier 1/4" bit handles around - and can be very useful! But the Turbo is XXL if not XXXL. I bought one hoping to replace the bitholder in a KK62 set (bitholder + I think 32 89mm bits in a soft case) but it was far too large to fit in the case. Still Wera Turbo is a really great screwdriver handle for electronics, where the extra speed with no batteries to charge is helpful and attendant loss of torque not usually a problem.
 

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The Turbo or the one that ships in the Tool Check?

If you mean the one in the TC, yeah that's one of the tinier 1/4" bit handles around - and can be very useful! But the Turbo is XXL if not XXXL. I bought one hoping to replace the bitholder in a KK62 set (bitholder + I think 32 89mm bits in a soft case) but it was far too large to fit in the case. Still Wera Turbo is a really great screwdriver handle for electronics, where the extra speed with no batteries to charge is helpful and attendant loss of torque not usually a problem.
A push of the button in the handle locks the "turbo" mode out... so it becomes a regular screwdriver. So you can break something loose or snug it down. For me it will easily fit in the zipper pocket I keep my Tool Check kit in. WIN WIN for me.
 

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The Turbo or the one that ships in the Tool Check?
I was thinking of the one that that comes with the Tool Check, but I realise that to include a bigger one would ruin the utility of the whole package, and that would be a shame!
 
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Wera Tool Check Plus is great... but the handle that is included doesn't feel right in my hand. I have always included a full sized handle with the kit where ever I store the Tool Check Plus.

Today... I finally picked the BEST handle that I have wanted since I found it. I get a free tool each month ... thanks to credits. This is the Wera "Speed" handle... it spins at a 4 to 1 ratio
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I didn’t know about the 826 T. Thanks for sharing.
 

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The Hazet smart case 2200-SC2 has sockets up to 14 mm. I think this is the closest equivalent to the Wera set in this thread. I have both and use both. I added a bit driver handle to the Hazet set.

Both brands are much less expensive in the EU so if you can buy them there the price is much more reasonable.
 

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The Hazet smart case 2200-SC2 has sockets up to 14 mm. I think this is the closest equivalent to the Wera set in this thread. I have both and use both. I added a bit driver handle to the Hazet set.

Both brands are much less expensive in the EU so if you can buy them there the price is much more reasonable.
That’s my next big purchase. I’m really enjoying the few Hazet things I have. They are good quality tools.
 

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The Hazet smart case 2200-SC2 has sockets up to 14 mm. I think this is the closest equivalent to the Wera set in this thread. I have both and use both. I added a bit driver handle to the Hazet set.

Both brands are much less expensive in the EU so if you can buy them there the price is much more reasonable.
I have this set, in a case Hazet also refer to as a “smart” case.
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I prefer the Hazet 1/4” drive, it’s very high quality and the parts fit together superbly, but like yourself, I have a use for both grades!

The Wera set this thread relates to is an incredibly compact package.

I have the set in the fabric case. It’s just a fraction easier to carry than the Hazet set in the hard case.
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I find the Wera ratchet surprisingly good. It’s length gives you more reach / leverage than the average 1/4” ratchet, but it’s surprisingly flat.

The Wera bit holder is one of the most rigid out there. It positively retains the bits, and holds them with no slop.
 

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I appreciate good tools but good storage right up there with them. Easy to keep handy, easy to spot anything out of place, easy to pass around. Good on workbench or good in the trunk.

Way too many kits of all types have no container or the flimsy plastic shelf package that doesn't hold up. We have socket sets at work with all sockets you can imagine, SAE and metric. 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 drive socket wrenches. But pick up the case and the smaller sockets fall out of place. I fixed this with layers of battle mat but we shouldn't have to do such as that.
 

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At my previous job, I was essentially a customer service representative who managed technicians maintaining industrial type instrumentation. With the Wera Tool Check Plus, a Knipex set with mini pliers wrench and mini cobras, and a Leatherman Wave (when not flying), and a basic voltage meter, I managed to repair scores of issues that my company would have sent a technician out at a much higher cost. These are high quality tools that hit well above their weight!
 

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I have this set, in a case Hazet also refer to as a “smart” case.
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I prefer the Hazet 1/4” drive, it’s very high quality and the parts fit together superbly, but like yourself, I have a use for both grades!

The Wera set this thread relates to is an incredibly compact package.

I have the set in the fabric case. It’s just a fraction easier to carry than the Hazet set in the hard case.
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I find the Wera ratchet surprisingly good. It’s length gives you more reach / leverage than the average 1/4” ratchet, but it’s surprisingly flat.

The Wera bit holder is one of the most rigid out there. It positively retains the bits, and holds them with no slop.

I have their 3/8" ratchet. Must say I'm not really that fond of it, feels kind of crunchy and sometimes skips a tooth or does not engage all the way for me. Maybe mine is faulty? Also, it's non-serviceable.


If the price is similar and I'd be deciding between Hazet and Wera, I would not think twice. Hazet has way less intensive branding and ad campaigns. But the quality speaks for itself. Hazet does not make gimmicky tools, but can't always say the same for Wera (love some of their stuff, but also not a fan of certain things either... Their handles being one of them, the crazy wrenches another...).
 

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I have their 3/8" ratchet. Must say I'm not really that fond of it, feels kind of crunchy and sometimes skips a tooth or does not engage all the way for me. Maybe mine is faulty? Also, it's non-serviceable.


If the price is similar and I'd be deciding between Hazet and Wera, I would not think twice. Hazet has way less intensive branding and ad campaigns. But the quality speaks for itself. Hazet does not make gimmicky tools, but can't always say the same for Wera (love some of their stuff, but also not a fan of certain things either... Their handles being one of them, the crazy wrenches another...).
The Hazet ratchet’s are lovely to use, and in 1/4” drive are possibly my favourites. They’re smooth to use and very durable. I find the finish of the tools to be very “real world” practical, and the fit of the sockets and extensions second to none.

In 1/4” I find myself reaching for Hazet or Stahlwille about equally
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The Wera is the “wild card” of the pack. Very different design, reminiscent of some older ratchet’s I feel, but I find it quite practical to use. The ”flat” design works well, and the length is about right for most tasks. I’ve had no issues with mine, but lack of serviceability is a nuisance.

Overall, there’s no comparison between Wera and Hazet - it’s Hazet all the way. But - Wera are probably half the price, the sockets are durable, availability is excellent (I can obtain Wera “off the shelf” locally, Hazet I have to order online) and I definitely have a use for it.

I increasingly find myself favouring Wera for all those “non critical” tasks such as fitting things around the house or adjusting my router table. There are an awful lot of those in my life….!
 
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The Hazet smart case 2200-SC2 has sockets up to 14 mm. I think this is the closest equivalent to the Wera set in this thread. I have both and use both. I added a bit driver handle to the Hazet set.

Both brands are much less expensive in the EU so if you can buy them there the price is much more reasonable.
Do you prefer Wera or Hazet?
 

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How "are" Wera sockets?

I love their screwdrivers. I love the Tool-Check. They're such a wacky brand compared to what we see in the US. The stuff works well and makes me smile. I'd like to get some of their sockets.... but I don't need any more sockets.... nor do I have money burning a hole in my pocket..... but still?

-Ryan
 

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How "are" Wera sockets?

I love their screwdrivers. I love the Tool-Check. They're such a wacky brand compared to what we see in the US. The stuff works well and makes me smile. I'd like to get some of their sockets.... but I don't need any more sockets.... nor do I have money burning a hole in my pocket..... but still?

-Ryan
They're fine and the knurling and color coding is neat. Wish they'd stamp the size numbers instead of just laser etching them on.
 

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How "are" Wera sockets?

I love their screwdrivers. I love the Tool-Check. They're such a wacky brand compared to what we see in the US. The stuff works well and makes me smile. I'd like to get some of their sockets.... but I don't need any more sockets.... nor do I have money burning a hole in my pocket..... but still?

-Ryan
They are very decent.

A lot of thought has gone into the design, they seem to be made of decent steel, the broaching and machining is excellent, and the heat treatment and finishing are first class.

This 1/4” drive 13mm socket has seen a fair bit of use (probably heavier than 1/4” drive should) and so far I can detect no real wear.

Overall I would say that they‘re not Snap On quality, or even Hazet, but they’re close. They’re a very good “mid price” option.

Also appreciate, that with some of the tools, the cost savings are greater than with others. A lot of the German 1/4” drive deep sockets, for example, are very costly. I got a set of Wera deep sockets, for the price of 2 or 3 Hazets.
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I like the selection of hex / torx sockets they offer, and even include in their sets. Many manufacturers offer the type of sets that would have been available 40 years previously, but in reality these bits are often needed on a daily basis.
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As F-22 said above though, I wish they would stamp the sizes on, the laser etching is rubbish.
 
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Wera are my main 1/4” sockets and I like them too for the above reasons. The knurling is so good that I can often do lighter work by free holding them.

(Edit: Most of them have been competitive on outer diameter, but on their inch series for instance I found the 1/4" had too thick walls to fit a tightly placed fastener (maybe they reused the blank from 7 mm or something?), whereas a HF socket worked fine, that was annoying.)

One other downside though is that the engagement chamfer is a little on the deep end, which gives them less contact area on low-profile fasteners.

I think sockets are all generally good enough now that the packaging is what sets them apart, and appreciate Wera’s well designed soft and hard cased kits.
 
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Do you prefer Wera or Hazet?
If I had to pick one set it would be the Hazet. They both work, the Hazet socket is more substantial but larger. At USA MSRP the Wera is a better value and more compact if it has what you need.

I use these as portable kits and they get most the most use when I am at a location where there are not tools available.
 

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Are we able to buy Wera wrenches by the single? When I looked on their website I was unable to do so, or maybe I'm just stupid...

Specifically looking for a 5/16 12 point open end wrench. It would be a life saver on my Impala. Don't really want to buy a $200 set when I really just need one.

Edit: Finally found it. My google-fu back when I saw it on TTC must have been terrible.
 
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I just got a Felo set that is an option in this context. I have not used it yet. It is larger than the Wera but it has more ratchet functionality. I paired this one with a full-size Felo bit driver handle for an in the car kit. Sockets also go up to 14 mm.

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If I had to pick one set it would be the Hazet. They both work, the Hazet socket is more substantial but larger. At USA MSRP the Wera is a better value and more compact if it has what you need.

I use these as portable kits and they get most the most use when I am at a location where there are not tools available.
Yes, Wera is no considered on the same level as Hazet overall. Maybe in the US market, kind of like Channellock vs Snap On? But still quite different. Wera does some stuff really well, but they do not manufacture in Germany and cater more towards the average consumer (also to industry, but not as much). Hazet stuff isn't something you normally see by home mechanics in Europe, they're not available in average stores while you can buy Wera in any Bauhaus...
 

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The Hazet smart case 2200-SC2 has sockets up to 14 mm. I think this is the closest equivalent to the Wera set in this thread. I have both and use both. I added a bit driver handle to the Hazet set.

Both brands are much less expensive in the EU so if you can buy them there the price is much more reasonable.
Do you know if the bits are impact rated or not? Have you used them with an impact driver?
 

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The Tool-Check really is a brilliant little package. It's just indispensable for pawing around in the confines of the dash.

Indeed, from my limited experience, Hazet is sorta like "European Snap-On". Very high-end, and priced accordingly.

I'm finding it hard to give Wera sockets a try:

1. I don't *need* any more sockets. I already went through a period of major replacement of worn out sockets.

2. From KC Tool's site, COO for sockets is Taiwan, which is no big deal.... but it'd be kinda cool for them to be made in the EU.

3. Wera deep sockets aren't fully broached. Normally, that's a good thing, Normally, this is a big plus, as it makes for a stronger working end of the socket, IMHO. I have a need for a fully broached set (like Tekton) to get on sensors, bleeders, drain *******, etc.

That said, I think I may try a set of 1/2" drive Wera shallow, non-impact sockets. The brand is just so "cheerful" to use. I have a zillion Wera screwdrivers, and the design just makes me smile. They feel good, and work well.

-Ryan
 
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My Daughter got me a Tool Check Plus (Metric) for Father's Day. I love just how useful it is. Used it on a Kitchen Sink job this weekend. I live the locking bit driver and the mini screwdriver.
 

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Do you know if the bits are impact rated or not? Have you used them with an impact driver?
I have not used any of my hand tool sockets with an impact driver. I do not believe that the sockets in the Hazet or Felo set I shared are impact rated. I would contact Hazet and ask if you need a definitive answer.
 

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There are Wera tools that I love, and Wera tools that I don't care for one bit. Their ratchets are exactly the latter, I don't like them. The all metal one is too think in thickness of the handle so when you push on it hard it digs into your hand. I have used the zyklop more, but the quick release button only works in normal ratchet mode, and changing the direction is too hard unless you're in normal ratchet mode. It's big and heavy.

However, I have their stainless multi screwdriver set that Dave455 showed above and I absolutely love it. I bought every stainless bit they have for it and then I bought another set for another toolbox I have. Their stainless bits are also impact rated and very strong. I rate their stainless bits above PB Swiss, but their standard bits below. It's also the only handle size they make which I can muster up enough interest in using. I've tried their screwdrivers with larger and smaller handles of their unique style and hated them.

I have and like their 1/4" grip kit, but the nut grip sockets have the thicker wall. Still a nice kit except the ratchet.
 

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Welp, I ordered a Wera 4078 kit with 1/2" set of standard sockets, ratchet handle, 5/16" bits, etc from KC Tool last night. I have a number of suspension projects coming up. Should be a good way to run it all through the ringer. :)

-Ryan
 

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Wera makes some really nice kits for trade work or running around the house. I don't use them on mechanical work. But I have the insulated screwdriver set, with the replaceable handles, as well as the smaller kit just with replaceable bits.

Their laser tips are THE BEST although they don't last forever unfortunately...
 

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My preference is for the Beta Mini. There are two versions.

900/C39N traditional hex sockets
900/C39U gear lock hex sockets

Beta updated the set case in 2023 to black. Previously it was orange. Same tool set.

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OLD Version (below)

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