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What are/(were) your most USELESS tools?

GarageWarrior

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Admitting mistakes is hard but let's start a thread with a collection of tools and garage equipment you found to be most useless in a typical non-professional repair garage (preferably something BIG and/or EXPENSIVE that you can't just chuck in the garbage and not think twice about it).

Could be tools/equipment that took too much space, or cost too much or never paid for itself, or was too frustrating/slow/difficult to use. Whatever it is - what were your most USELESS tools/equipment in your shop.

I'll start my own top 3:

1) Manual Tire changer: I used to work in a car shop and was used to doing my own tires. However manual tire changer was a giant pain to use. Instead of sweating for half a day, I found that dropping tires off at the tire shop for $40 is a much more productive use of my time. With that said, if you changing tires 4-5 times a week - a professional tires changer is definitely worth having.

2) Metalworking mill - they might not cost much, especially used, but are hard to move and take a ton of floor space. Tooling and stock are expensive. Long setup time for what are mostly one-off jobs. Every couple years I'd have a use for it like resurfacing heads during an engine rebuilt, but it took so long to get things setup and running, that it just made more sense to bring parts to machine shop down the street. Last time the guy only charged me $70 or so. I found that what machinist charge is very reasonable, so no need to try to do their job for them.

3) Lathe - same as mill, except now nobody even bothers with turning brake rotors - new ones are way too cheap. And I thought a lathe would be useful for making custom adapters and special threads and what not, but can't actually recall a time when I actually needed something and could not find a part in stock or special-order for a reasonable cost.
 
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Hmmm.... OTC Pegisys. What a hunk of **** that was. Beyond that probably SnapOn ratchet that you could twist the handle like a screwdriver to make it work....thought it was awesome idea and I would use it all the time....it had a head significantly larger than standard ratchet so it didn't fit in tight places you would want to use it :lol: tryd it once maybe twice, brought it home. Still never used it..probably hasn't seen light of day in 10yrs.
Shop I worked for several yrs ago bought a nitrogen compressor. Glad it wasn't my idea, talk about zero ROI, all the tire places started doing N2 fills for free.
 

PugetDude

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Shopsmith. It was a pain in the *** to have to re-configure it for each operation (table saw, bandsaw, lathe, drill press, jointer, etc. It did each operation well, but it took forever to get anything done. Sold it within a year.
 

dankicksass

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Flat non-reversible Gearwrench ratcheting wrenches. Don't dare touch them where clearance has even a remote chance of being an issue or you'll wind up wasting all your time getting your wrench un-trapped. May as well drop them off at the scrapper, the open ends are too weak to use on anything vaguely tight, they just spread and slip. Absolutely useless tool.
 

-Brent-

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Those broken nut removal gadgets. I couldn't figure out how to not make things worse. So, now I just use a reverse drill bit. That technique hasn't let me down, yet.
 

maven

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Flat non-reversible Gearwrench ratcheting wrenches. Don't dare touch them where clearance has even a remote chance of being an issue or you'll wind up wasting all your time getting your wrench un-trapped. May as well drop them off at the scrapper, the open ends are too weak to use on anything vaguely tight, they just spread and slip. Absolutely useless tool.
I use a Matco version (double box though) every day and love them, one of my go to's
Noid lights.
Use mine relatively regulary
 

Bill Ramsey

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E-torx sockets. Bought a set in 1988 for a job on a Dodge Omni. Haven't owned a vehicle since, that uses these fasteners. But after 26 years, I'll never get rid of them because you know that Murphy would take that opportunity to kick me square in the nuts.:eyecrazy:
 

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Small and inexpensive, but annoying as hell and completely worthless: 11mm wrenches and sockets. I've never seen an 11mm fastener (although they will work on 7/16" in a pinch.)

Bigger and a bit more expensive: shop crane, AKA cherry picker. I bought one to replace a car engine, then got tired of all the floor space it took up in my crowded 2 car garage and released it back into the wild via CrackList. Not a bad deal -- I sold it quickly for only $50 less than I paid, so it was a lot cheaper than renting.
 

Krash Kadillak

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This:
Roto Zip
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This works better and is more accurate:
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The Roto-Zip is very hard to control doing drywall - too much torque. It's OK if you have a hard border to guide you, but watch out if you're trying to do something freehand.
 
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bshusted

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Small and inexpensive, but annoying as hell and completely worthless: 11mm wrenches and sockets. I've never seen an 11mm fastener (although they will work on 7/16" in a pinch.)

All of the brake fittings on my Audi are 11mm. There are a couple of other places that they used 11mm bolts/nuts. Send yours to me. :D

A couple of years ago, my Father-in-Law gave me one of these for Christmas. I haven't thrown it out because I know that he will look to see if it's in my tool box when he comes over.
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DodgeMech

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E-torx sockets. Bought a set in 1988 for a job on a Dodge Omni. Haven't owned a vehicle since, that uses these fasteners. But after 26 years, I'll never get rid of them because you know that Murphy would take that opportunity to kick me square in the nuts.:eyecrazy:

Ma Mopar uses them to this day on a few things...throttle body bolts on a few different cars, and shift towers on manuals...

Small and inexpensive, but annoying as hell and completely worthless: 11mm wrenches and sockets. I've never seen an 11mm fastener (although they will work on 7/16" in a pinch.)

Bigger and a bit more expensive: shop crane, AKA cherry picker. I bought one to replace a car engine, then got tired of all the floor space it took up in my crowded 2 car garage and released it back into the wild via CrackList. Not a bad deal -- I sold it quickly for only $50 less than I paid, so it was a lot cheaper than renting.

11 mm is something I use all the time...pretty much any clamp on a medium dirty diesel motor is going to be an 11...
 

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Craftsman biscuit joiner that attaches to a Craftsman grinder. Takes a grinder out of service as it took so long to set it up. Once I got my Kreg Jig I got my grinder back and the joiner is rusting away.
 

dirttracker18

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Manual tire changer is pretty useless for me too. Come to think of it, I'm going to post it up for sale and see if someone will give me something for it :(
 

Ruger_556

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Snap On Instinct soft grip screwdriver set... Not a single one was a commonly needed length. Like, you know a 6" P2 and 5/16 :spit: Stocked up on c-mans and then ordered the two snappy's I wanted.
 

Dusty61

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Tripple square sockets. Used maybe 2 or three times. That and 9mm sockets. I have not once used one. What are they supposed to fit anyway???
 

CanadaBoy

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Piston ring compressor and honing stones for cylinders. Used the compress once and honing stones once before they broke and CT would not take them back. Most useless $150 I spent.
 

ludakris04

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I have a set of stubby wrenches that are 10+ yrs old and never been used... Not sure what I was thinking..


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justin1795

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purchased a harbor freight transmission jack. used once and realized the car had to be like 3 feet off the ground and still come out the wheel well.
 

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You remember the ads for these in the late 80's. Got me some. Best thing to use to make nice round bolt heads.
Funny how those wrenches are on just about every flea market and yard sale table in existence. They even look like trouble.

Small and inexpensive, but annoying as hell and completely worthless: 11mm wrenches and sockets. I've never seen an 11mm fastener (although they will work on 7/16" in a pinch.)

This made me laugh because I stopped in a Big Lots the other day and I kid you not, there was a whole peg hook full of 11mm combo wrenches and not one other size. I wanted to take a picture it was just too funny. I think they were on closeout for 1.49 or something like that.
 

nicksnothereman

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Admitting mistakes is hard but let's start a thread with a collection of tools and garage equipment you found to be most useless in a typical non-professional repair garage (preferably something BIG and/or EXPENSIVE that you can't just chuck in the garbage and not think twice about it).

Could be tools/equipment that took too much space, or cost too much or never paid for itself, or was too frustrating/slow/difficult to use. Whatever it is - what were your most USELESS tools/equipment in your shop.

I'll start my own top 3:

1) Manual Tire changer: I used to work in a car shop and was used to doing my own tires. However manual tire changer was a giant pain to use. Instead of sweating for half a day, I found that dropping tires off at the tire shop for $40 is a much more productive use of my time. With that said, if you changing tires 4-5 times a week - a professional tires changer is definitely worth having.

2) Metalworking mill - they might not cost much, especially used, but are hard to move and take a ton of floor space. Tooling and stock are expensive. Long setup time for what are mostly one-off jobs. Every couple years I'd have a use for it like resurfacing heads during an engine rebuilt, but it took so long to get things setup and running, that it just made more sense to bring parts to machine shop down the street. Last time the guy only charged me $70 or so. I found that what machinist charge is very reasonable, so no need to try to do their job for them.

3) Lathe - same as mill, except now nobody even bothers with turning brake rotors - new ones are way too cheap. And I thought a lathe would be useful for making custom adapters and special threads and what not, but can't actually recall a time when I actually needed something and could not find a part in stock or special-order for a reasonable cost.

My tire bead breaker just sits in my garage looking lonely. That.
 

coljar

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Can I add : Stupid and worthless? My Snap-On air operated gasket scraper and I'll have to go along with the Robo grips.
 
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