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Wyoming09

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Got this bit in a kit of railings. I don't recognize the shank. Manufacturing defect? What say you GJ??
 

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RoninB4

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-Almost looks like a ball-lock design so it doesn't fall out of the chuck. The other end would be the function.
 

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If the end you're showing is a three-sided bit I would tend to agree with Ronin. If 4 sided, maybe an uncut Phillips bit size 7. What brand is the railing, what came with it etc etc.?
 
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Wyoming09

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If the end you're showing is a three-sided bit I would tend to agree with Ronin. If 4 sided, maybe an uncut Phillips bit size 7. What brand is the railing, what came with it etc etc.?
Not sure of the brand. It's some extra stainless railings for out at the pool. T he shank is indeed square. All four sides are identical.
 
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These are not SDS regardless of what Amazon says.
They are four-hollow square shank bits, designed to fit cheap chinese hammer drills.
SDS+ bits use a 10mm round shaft with slotted keyways that engage with the drive system in the tool. They can be complex to manufacture.
These chinese bits simply drive the square. Easier and cheaper to make the bits and the tool.
Best suited for the circular file.
 

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Could you elaborate please? I'd like to know the correct way.
I don’t know anything about pools (coming from a country where an outdoor pool is unusable for 11 months of the year :LOL:) but I usually find that fixings supplied with products are totally inadequate for the purpose.

If you’re fixing into concrete, or concrete block, the best option is a Rawlbolt / concrete anchor. These are unbelievably strong provided you’re fixing it into something solid.
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Other options are a “Tapcon”, that screws straight into concrete
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Or a chemical anchor
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Both of which work better than they look like they might.

If whatever you’re fixing has small holes, and you have to use screws, then use a decent wall plug.They all look similar but the quality varies enourmously.
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If you have the space, some manufacturers (e.g. Fischer) offer extra long ones.
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And use a coach screw / lag screw rather than a regular screw. Stronger and easier.
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Finally, you will find that concrete, with gravel in the mix, can be very hard on drill bits. I’ve seen cheap ones wear out before making it to the bottom of one hole, so give yourself a fair chance and get something decent. Even good ones are not expensive.

If you are drilling into concrete, get a proper SDS drill. Even an inexpensive one will work waaay better than any other option.

I suspect that cherrybomb was suggesting that pool railings get leant on and hauled on, so you don’t want the fastenings failing. Same applies if you’re fitting a grab handle by a step, or in a shower for an elderly person.
 
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Old Man Roger

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I don’t know anything about pools (coming from a country where an outdoor pool is unusable for 11 months of the year :LOL:) but I usually find that fixings supplied with products are totally inadequate for the purpose.

If you’re fixing into concrete, or concrete block, the best option is a Rawlbolt / concrete anchor. These are unbelievably strong provided you’re fixing it into something solid.
IMG_1904.jpeg

Other options are a “Tapcon”, that screws straight into concrete
IMG_1905.jpeg

Or a chemical anchor
IMG_1906.jpeg

Both of which work better than they look like they might.

If whatever you’re fixing has small holes, and you have to use screws, then use a decent wall plug.They all look similar but the quality varies enourmously.
IMG_1909.jpeg

If you have the space, some manufacturers (e.g. Fischer) offer extra long ones.
IMG_1908.jpeg

And use a coach screw / lag screw rather than a regular screw. Stronger and easier.
IMG_1910.jpeg

Finally, you will find that concrete, with gravel in the mix, can be very hard on drill bits. I’ve seen cheap ones wear out before making it to the bottom of one hole, so give yourself a fair chance and get something decent. Even good ones are not expensive.

If you are drilling into concrete, get a proper SDS drill. Even an inexpensive one will work waaay better than any other option.

I suspect that cherrybomb was suggesting that pool railings get leant on and hauled on, so you don’t want the fastenings failing. Same applies if you’re fitting a grab handle by a step, or in a shower for an elderly person.
Chlorine has to be considered too. It is very corrosive.
 
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