What do you guys think about this box?

[bradley8795]

Just wondering if anyone knows what model it is or if it's a good price?

http://ventura.craigslist.org/tls/5246988389.html

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[jrobb316]

No idea of the model number, but price isn't terrible. If you're looking for a small box it will be perfect, I would just confirm it has bearing slides. In perspective you can spend close to that much on an inferior CMan box. I'm sure there is room to shave off 50 dollars as well.

 

[jn50308401]

Looks like a KR567 or 557 series. If all the drawers work, 250ish for my area at most.

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[Hammer1963]

Much better than most anything for the same money. If you want it, buy it, but offer the seller less just to see if they will take it.

 

[gooseadrian]

If it had ball bearing slides and a good working lock I would try to talk him down and use that as a service cart

 

[rdog422]

good deal, but make sure that all the casters work.... if one of them doesn't lock or swivel then you have a good chance at talking him down another 50$

 

[Where Are My Gloves]

Good deal, good box. I used one for a year or two at work until I needed more room. Price seems reasonable if the casters work and the drawers all slide well.

 

[Mikerodrig27]

Seems like a great price to me. Offer less though!

 

[jn503084]

Looking at the pics on a computer, it looks like a special edition, "American Pride" or some such box. The trim around the front of the chest and the drawers were black. There's a gent on here that picked one up like that, his was a 657. I believe they have ball bearing slides.

 

[mikeceli]

Looks like he's storing it in his bedroom. Deal with his wife, she'l let you have it for FIFTY BUCKS!

 

[Ponchoguy]

No idea of the model number, but price isn't terrible. If you're looking for a small box it will be perfect, I would just confirm it has bearing slides. In perspective you can spend close to that much on an inferior CMan box. I'm sure there is room to shave off 50 dollars as well.

Or you could buy an older Craftsman box top and bottom combo like I did for $75 and have the more storage room and more money back into your pocket.

I'd put my old Craftsman storage against that unit. It's what's inside the box that makes you money and counts, not what you put it into per se.

 

[RXtacy]

Looks like he's storing it in his bedroom. Deal with his wife, she'l let you have it for FIFTY BUCKS!

He also keeps a quad in his bedroom?

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

Or you could buy an older Craftsman box top and bottom combo like I did for $75 and have the more storage room and more money back into your pocket.

I'd put my old Craftsman storage against that unit. It's what's inside the box that makes you money and counts, not what you put it into per se.

Oh Lord, he asked what you thought of that specific box, he didn't ask to hear your theory about tools and cheap boxes. The only thing missing from your post was a HF recommendation.

Besides, you have no idea what the used toolbox market in his area is like.

OP, looks like a KR 557, maybe even a 657. Depending on condition that could be a reasonable price but I'll bet he'd drop at least as low as $300, maybe $250. Ask the seller what the model is.

 

[Where Are My Gloves]

I live in the same area, just bought a used Snap-On Classic56 for more than double that last week. I know it's a bigger box but even for a small box, it's a great deal for what I've been finding in this area.


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[jn503084]

Looks like he's storing it in his bedroom. Deal with his wife, she'l let you have it for FIFTY BUCKS!

Thats why you have to hide them in plain sight, to my wife one red tool box looks like all the other red tool boxes.. "oh honey, I didn't scour Craigslist for weeks to drive 40 minutes into the country to meet a stranger.. I've had that tool box for years!!" lol..

 

[Ponchoguy]

Oh Lord, he asked what you thought of that specific box, he didn't ask to hear your theory about tools and cheap boxes. The only thing missing from your post was a HF recommendation.

Besides, you have no idea what the used toolbox market in his area is like.

OP, looks like a KR 557, maybe even a 657. Depending on condition that could be a reasonable price but I'll bet he'd drop at least as low as $300, maybe $250. Ask the seller what the model is.

No thanks, all of my boxes are made in North America. But I can tell you that I spent a lot less and mine rolls as good as that box and stores tools just as good. And I have over $200 more in my pocket.

Your comment about an "inferior" Craftsman box was the part that made no sense. How many Craftsman boxes do you own? I own several, some are over 50 years old.

 

[RXtacy]

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

No thanks, all of my boxes are made in North America. But I can tell you that I spent a lot less and mine rolls as good as that box and stores tools just as good. And I have over $200 more in my pocket.

Your comment about an "inferior" Craftsman box was the part that made no sense. How many Craftsman boxes do you own? I own several, some are over 50 years old.

I have several Craftsman boxes, the oldest of which are 40-50 years old. I have several Snap On boxes as well. Sorry, buddy, but as solid as the older Craftsman boxes are, they can't begin to compare to the Snap On boxes.

Besides, your premise is ridiculous. You assume the OP has the same opportunity you had to buy a Craftsman combo for $75 that you had. Besides, $200 more for a Snap On, esp if it's a KR 657 is a much better value than yours.

 

[woody 73]

Toolboxes in my area go for big money not many deals to be had but with that being said I found one somewhat close to your tool box for the same asking price: So it sounds like a fair deal.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/5219745001.html

 

[zkling]

It's a KR657, late 80's early 90's, 7 drawer all ball bearing, no dividers, 34" wide, 19" deep. If it is really in nice shape, no issues, no dents, rust spots etc. $300 could be fair for a ready to use, just dusty box.

Toolboxes in my area go for big money not many deals to be had but with that being said I found one somewhat close to your tool box for the same asking price: So it sounds like a fair deal.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/5219745001.html

That's a KR655, a much larger and heavier box.

Or you could buy an older Craftsman box top and bottom combo like I did for $75 and have the more storage room and more money back into your pocket.

I'd put my old Craftsman storage against that unit. It's what's inside the box that makes you money and counts, not what you put it into per se.

 

[woody 73]

zkling what would be the model # of the box above your post?

 

[Ponchoguy]

I have several Craftsman boxes, the oldest of which are 40-50 years old. I have several Snap On boxes as well. Sorry, buddy, but as solid as the older Craftsman boxes are, they can't begin to compare to the Snap On boxes.

Besides, your premise is ridiculous. You assume the OP has the same opportunity you had to buy a Craftsman combo for $75 that you had. Besides, $200 more for a Snap On, esp if it's a KR 657 is a much better value than yours.

That's your opinion, remember we all have them. You could argue that a Snap On box is better than a Craftsman. I'll argue the other way. Are we both right? Perhaps. You're admitting that the old Craftsman boxes are solid, which is a valid statement supported by many here, not just me.

$200 is a lot of tools in my book. Ask any mechanic that's done this for a while and he/she will tell you that it's not the toolbox that makes you any money. It's what's inside of it.

There's no disputing that.....

 

[woody 73]

Zkling thanks.

 

[zkling]

That's your opinion, remember we all have them. You could argue that a Snap On box is better than a Craftsman. I'll argue the other way. Are we both right? Perhaps. You're admitting that the old Craftsman boxes are solid, which is a valid statement supported by many here, not just me.

$200 is a lot of tools in my book. Ask any mechanic that's done this for a while and he/she will tell you that it's not the toolbox that makes you any money. It's what's inside of it.

There's no disputing that.....

Opinions can be right or wrong though.

 

[Ponchoguy]

Opinions can be right or wrong though.

Or as I have said many times, if the "inferior" Craftsman bothers you so much, send it my way, I'll put it to good use .

 

[zkling]

That's your opinion, remember we all have them. You could argue that a Snap On box is better than a Craftsman. I'll argue the other way. Are we both right? Perhaps. You're admitting that the old Craftsman boxes are solid, which is a valid statement supported by many here, not just me.

$200 is a lot of tools in my book. Ask any mechanic that's done this for a while and he/she will tell you that it's not the toolbox that makes you any money. It's what's inside of it.

There's no disputing that.....

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[zkling]

Zkling thanks.

For the record it's ~36" wide, 20" deep, ~44" tall and a real chore to load and unload by yourself ~100lbs heavier than the box the OP posted.

 

[jn503084]

I've got 2 KR557's and a KR537 top chest that I've been working on cleaning, painting etc.. I paid 150 for a KR557F and 250 for the KR537/557D combo that had been together since new. For the area, condition and what I've seen, I though that were decent deals.

These are good size tool boxes and Snap On must have sold a heck of a lot them, because they're plentiful on the used market. Some prices are good, some are insane for the condition/age.

Some of the estate sale and flea market folks you'll see people selling clapped out Craftsman tool boxes for what they go for in the Labor Day newspaper ads or Snap On's for what they would cost new off the truck.


Buy what you like, what makes sense for your needs and enjoy the process of making it yours. If the price can be negotiated down, all the better.

 

[logical]

I know its Snap On, and only $300, but that things looks to be in pretty rough shape to me. Did you go look at it?

 

[1950mercury]

Or you could buy an older Craftsman box top and bottom combo like I did for $75 and have the more storage room and more money back into your pocket.

I'd put my old Craftsman storage against that unit. It's what's inside the box that makes you money and counts, not what you put it into per se.

"Please stand up" & "lets hear it for" ......

 

[Ponchoguy]

"Please stand up" & "lets hear it for" ......

those of us that know better?

 

[FJ 432]

Ponchoguy,

I think most of members posting above are saying that they don't agree with your statement. I will also have to side with the majority having owned yours and Snap On.

 

[Ponchoguy]

Ponchoguy,

I think most of members posting above are saying that they don't agree with your statement. I will also have to side with the majority having owned yours and Snap On.

So anyone that doesn't agree with the supposed majority is wrong?

 

[FJ 432]

So anyone that doesn't agree with the supposed majority is wrong?

What's right or wrong in this brother? If you're happy with what you own then that's what counts.

You stated that a craftsman is equal to the snap on listed, I disagree. So does many others.

I believe it's a fair price that the OP had posted.

 

[Ponchoguy]

What's right or wrong in this brother? If you're happy with what you own then that's what counts.

You stated that a craftsman is equal to the snap on listed, I disagree. So does many others.

I believe it's a fair price that the OP had posted.

Because the majority disagrees, it doesn't make you right. However, it has been stated and I believe most will agree that the older Craftsman boxes are solid contenders.

So, we have each stated our opinions. The OP will choose what he/she sees fit. I was stating another option that has worked for me (and countless others on this forum).

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

That's your opinion, remember we all have them. You could argue that a Snap On box is better than a Craftsman. I'll argue the other way. Are we both right? Perhaps. You're admitting that the old Craftsman boxes are solid, which is a valid statement supported by many here, not just me.

$200 is a lot of tools in my book. Ask any mechanic that's done this for a while and he/she will tell you that it's not the toolbox that makes you any money. It's what's inside of it.

There's no disputing that.....

I never said old Craftsman boxes weren't solid. I have two from the 60s and two from the early 70s. But being a good homeowners box doesn't mean it's the same or even better than Snap On. btw, nobody in their right mind would think a Craftsman box is better than a Snap On.

As for your 'ask a mechanic' comment, why would I? I'm a home user so I'm not concerned with my tools making me money.

 

[Ponchoguy]

I never said old Craftsman boxes weren't solid. I have two from the 60s and two from the early 70s. But being a good homeowners box doesn't mean it's the same or even better than Snap On.

As for your 'ask a mechanic' comment, why would I? I'm a home user so I'm not concerned with my tools making me money.

My point is that they are a good contender for just about everyone and it should be considered. Looking down the shop floor at work here, I see a lot of vintage Craftsman just as much as I see the professional brands.....having a "homeowner" box doesn't make you any less of a mechanic.

Just because we differ or you agree with the majority and I do not doesn't make either of us "right" per se and I think you agree with that.

My only point was that the Cman is a viable contender and should be considered. As should a Mac, Matco, Cornwell, and other quality brands. Just because it isn't a Snap On doesn't make it bad.

 

[Ponchoguy]

I never said old Craftsman boxes weren't solid. I have two from the 60s and two from the early 70s. But being a good homeowners box doesn't mean it's the same or even better than Snap On. btw, nobody in their right mind would think a Craftsman box is better than a Snap On.

As for your 'ask a mechanic' comment, why would I? I'm a home user so I'm not concerned with my tools making me money.

Nobody in their right mind would pay $300 for something that's no better than a Craftsman.

Then again, here at GJ, if it's not Snap On or you don't agree with the majority, all the keyboard commandos come to life.

I'll say it again: Send me your Craftsman that you find inferior. I'll put it to better use.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

Ponchoguy, you keep arguing against things that haven't even been said. No one said anyone was less of a mechanic with a Craftsman box, or any of the other inane things you've been saying.

The OP asked about a specific box and you've been blathering on about your Craftsman box ever since, making up straw man arguments as you go.

 

[Ponchoguy]

Ponchoguy, you keep arguing against things that haven't even been said. No one said anyone was less of a mechanic with a Craftsman box, or any of the other inane things you've been saying.

The OP asked about a specific box and you've been blathering on about your Craftsman box ever since, making up straw man arguments as you go.

The original poster asked about a specific box. I rendered an opinion that he could go with a Craftsman as I did for a lot less and he'd be just as well off and have money in his pocket to fill up the box.

After that others countered that statement, and that's fine, that's your opinion as I have mine. But to say "there's no way that they are equal" is once again, YOUR opinion. In my book, you overpaid. In your book, you got a "superior" box. Both are opinions..just like Chevy is better than Ford or Dodge is better than Buick.

It seems that around here, unless it's Snap On, it's junk. I will say it again: an old Craftsman does everything that a Snap On does, just as good, just as well for less money. You think otherwise, that's fine.

I mean if Snap On made toilet paper, would you say, "well after all, it's Snap On, it has to be better than Charmin!" Ya'all have to stop drinking the Snap On Kool Aid and believing that just because it has a Snap On badge, it's got to be superior.