What is considered vintage for this section?

[-Brent-]

I have some toolboxes that are from an era that was late 70s to mid 80s. I'd consider them vintage, like Drives says.

There are other items from the 80s I'd consider vintage, too. Say the neat gimmicky pistol soldering irons to electrical tools to machines that have vastly changed with technology to advertising, etc.

Actually, that may be a good way to think of it for certain items. If technology has really changed a certain item an early, basic version could be deemed vintage. For everything else, I'd probably say 30 years or older is vintage (unfortunately haha).

 

[getahammer]

PRE- Harbor freight (1980)

 

[larry_g]

All through my life I've considered an old person to be at least 10 years older than I am. To a 5 yo a 15 yo person is old, and beyond that like dad or grandpa is ancient. Now at 60 + years of age I still think old age must be somewhere in the seventy year old category.

So I would propose that old is in the eyes of the beholder and that vintage stuff must be at least 10 years older than the poster who starts the thread.
lg
no neat sig line

 

[C96]

Everyone would like to believe that their just plain ole everyday tools have now somehow become special because they can refer to them as “Vintage”.

Lol…without further clarification up front, this new section will soon be riddled with an array of miscellaneous not new (whatever that means) tools just like the original tool section.

Your expectations for a “Vintage Tool Discussion” (without definition) will simply become just another forum about tools.

 

[Outlawmws]

All through my life I've considered an old person to be at least 10 years older than I am. To a 5 yo a 15 yo person is old, and beyond that like dad or grandpa is ancient. Now at 60 + years of age I still think old age must be somewhere in the seventy year old category.

So I would propose that old is in the eyes of the beholder and that vintage stuff must be at least 10 years older than the poster who starts the thread.
lg
no neat sig line

But if I'm 95 it would be an antique! :eye crazy:

 

[Outlawmws]

Damn it. You've got me wondering now whether that's one of those expressions which is lost in translation. I would say the other tart, but have you seen how many meanings there are for that word?

My work is done!

 

[PCO6]

I don't know if I would call my earliest tools "vintage" but I still have many of the ones that I bought during high school during the '60s. I rather say they have "history". That would be my history of using them, which is important to me.

 

[mtwaterguy]

i didn't receive any PM from you just now i PM you

check your massages pls

Your account is not set up to receive PM's. I tried without any luck and sent an e-mail with no response, Mike.

 

[VictorBravo]

I'm with 1969. That's the turning point: Space Age reaches its peak with landing on the Moon, computers starting to go mainstream, the epitome of old-fashioned internal combustion engine technology, cheap gas, etc. It all goes downhill after that.

Besides, the Eagles said so in Hotel California:

"Haven't had that spirit here since 1969...."

 

[bluebolt]

As long as it is not made in China I am good LOL!

 

[Strouty]

I shall not to day attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description [vintage tools]; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it.

.........Quote stolen from famous supreme court case. Of course I change it a touch to make it relevant.

 

[beatcad]

I shall not to day attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description [vintage tools]; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it.

.........Quote stolen from famous supreme court case. Of course I change it a touch to make it relevant.

yeah. that was origianally about ****

i can see your point.
lets all toss out our old stuff here and see what sticks.
i think we're all cordial adults and gentlemen here

i used the beer smiley 'cause i salute you and everyone else, and 'cause there isnt a classy smiley w/ a top hat & monocle

 

[jakemac]

Here's two I just stole from elsewhere.

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[drivesitfar]

Jake: can you tell me why my icons keep changing on the right side of my posts? can i pick the ones i want to keep there?

i do like your new ones and can i save them somehow to use again?

Beat and Strouty: agreed that this section will figure itself out with all our help.

 

[PowderKeg]

Is there a specific age for the tool or equipment that puts it in this category?

I was just wondering for future use.

Maybe something like an age requirement could be added under the heading so the newer or non vintage tools and equipment don’t mistakenly get mixed in.

Just a thought,

Thanks

Well judging by the majority of threads moved here so far, the primary requirement to post in this section is to include "vintage" in the title....

Can you provide a globally recognized source that states so? Vintage is yet another word that recent times has misused into a one word adjective. Technically by definition anything can be "vintage" and without a year to precede or follow it is just a random word thrown in.

You mean like on eBay or craigslist?

According to sellers on those sites, "vintage" means some time prior to July 2014.

Truer words have not been spoken - fleabay sellers' "definitions" should definitely not apply here.

Does it really matter that much? I think the definition is fluid and somewhat in the eyes of the beholder. There is little value to anyone in getting into P*&^ing contest over whether something is "vintage" or not. The moderators don't need a bunch of requests to move something to another area because it's not truly vintage in someone's opinion. If you see something posted that doesn't fit your definition, you are free to ignore it and move on to something that appeals to you more. Just my humble opinion and no more valid than my opinion of what's "vintage".

I for one don't give a damn. I have no idea the age of many of my tools. And if I consider them vintage I might post here......or not. Some stuff I definitely know is vintage and again may or may not post here. If it is worth posting I will post where I think people will find it.
Some tools simply defy age. Think of a Lincoln "Tombstone" welder for example.

Honestly it depends on the tool. For wrenches and screwdrivers, not a lot has changed in 30 years other than notched open ends on some of the higher end stuff, some softer grips etc. Get into ratchets and toolboxes though and suddenly something from the mid 80's seems "vintage." Snap-on and Mac ratchets from the 80's would have far to coarse teeth to compete with even most import ratchets of today and if someone posts a Snap-on, Mac, or Craftsman toolbox from the 80's even it gets attention as "Vintage" so really its pretty subjective to the person and the tool. What I consider "vintage" as a 34 year old may not be the same as someone who's 75.

I don't know if I would call my earliest tools "vintage" but I still have many of the ones that I bought during high school during the '60s. I rather say they "have "history". That would be my history of using them, which is important to me.

Amen to all the above - IMHO, This new section should be less about age definitions and worrying about "does *** post belong here or there", and more about history, repair, revival, discovery, discussion, show-your-old-____brand/type/size-tools-here, what-the-!#@#-was-this-used-for back in the day, etc topics pertaining to older/used tools and not egos, biases, or personalities.

Quote below is from the "Shouldn't we sticky a note..." thread in the other section:

I am going to go way out on a limb so listen up; I for one am 100% in favor of starting a different section although the idea is not mine to start with.

First off I am tired of all the Snap on rocks HF ***** posts.
HF rocks and Snap-on ***** posts.
Hi I am a superman wild troll and I love to stir the pot.
Hi my name is XXXXX I am not here to sell any tools (just don't look a E-bay for a few days.
What is the best of the best of the best *** that I need to buy forget the price tag.
What drill bit should I buy.
Milwaukee rocks and Dewalt *****.
You guys said brand X rocks and my first brand X ***** what gives.
Craftsman *****
Craftsman rocks.
The posts feed on drama and move at the speed of light so when a good story comes along it is gone in 20 minutes to be taken over for some other wild drama.

I have said my peace I think it will be good to have another section that will move a little slower and not have so much drama; besides if you are not interested in old tools then skip that section.

Woody is dead on target. While there will be some confusion and possibly mis-posts and missed posts for awhile, the potential benefits well outweigh the risks. I'll go one step further and suggest that anyone who violates the intent of this section by starting posts covered in Woody's list should be hunted down, flogged with vintage rusty flexible part grabber, and have all their vintage USA made tools confiscated and replaced with 1960's era tools from the Pacific Rim - if enough surviving examples can actually be found .

But wait, if they're from the 60's, then they'd certainly classify as vintage, and might even be collectible, which would then be appropriate to discuss here....

 

[Strouty]

I think the only way this will work is if this section has it's own moderators that are knowledgable. Otherwise who knows what will happen.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

anyone who violates the intent of this section by starting posts covered in Woody's list should be hunted down, flogged with vintage rusty flexible part grabber

Amen. Here's one for the job.

It's not rusty or flexible, but it is vintage (1940's), and it will leave a mark.

What would resolve any confusion or possible irritation at having to constantly open and read threads to figure out the actual vintage of the topic, is to require people starting new threads to simply identify the vintage of the subject by year or time-period.

That's not asking too much.

"1940's Vintage Pliers" won't be expected to have any photos and discussions of pliers with obnoxiously colored rubberized handles, for example. Whereas, "Vintage Pliers" might be splattered with neon by those who think the late 70's and its rabidly retro reincarnation merit the term.

If this section is going to include everything that's no longer contemporary (i.e., stuff being made right now), identifying a year or time-period in the thread seems like a must, to me. Otherwise, this section will weed out all the stuff Woody talked about, but be a pain in the patootie (is that a vintage or an antique term?) to navigate.

 

[Strouty]

To me vintage could be 90s or even 2000s, it just depends on what it is.

I do feel pretty strongly that tool in question should no longer be made. There could be a newer version that has been made to different standards or something like that, but I would not call any tool that is in current production "vintage".

As an example I would consider some older Husky tools vintage, but not the newer counterparts. Another would be I consider petersen vise grips to be vintage since they have been out of production for a while.