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I was moving things around in the garage today and came across a tool that I thought would be prime material for a "What is it?" post. Let's hear what it's called AND the name of the manufacturer.

Here are the photos:

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Clues / facts:

1) It weighs about 200lbs.

2) This is an original, not a later copy by another company.

3) The machine shop contracted to make the parts for the first machines now owns the rights to the design and still builds them to order.

4) All the parts of the machine are present, although they may not be in their correct positions.
 
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A precision alignment gauge for a cultivator, plow or something like that.

Well, I suppose you could set a plow with one, but usually a piece of chalk, a flat concrete surface, some string and a tape measure works best for getting the draft lined up.

Unfortunately, it has nothing to do with the setting of ground-engaging implements, but I just knew the Massey Ferguson property tag would throw at least one person off. :bounce:
 

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is it some kind of tool used by millwrights to set up industrial equipment?.............like steel mills on the simpsons where they break into song?:beer:
 
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I was thinking it was for headlights but looks awfull fancy for that.

Good guess! I suppose I could use it for that, but you're right, much too fancy for that operation. Rest assured, GM, Ford and Chrysler all use it for headlights though. :bounce:

The precursor of my machine is shown being used in one of these photos. Although it could have been present in several more and would have had an impact on almost every part photographed:

http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/guides/William_Doxford_and_Sons#The_Manufacturing_Process
 
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I see it.. Know what its for but no idea what its called. Bolster has been using one lately.
I dont know what the proper term is but i think its a super big gauge that measures the height of whatever your tooling???...??
 
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I see it.. Know what its for but no idea what its called. Bolster has been using one lately.
I dont know what the proper term is but i think its a super big gauge that measures the height of whatever your tooling???...??

This machine does more than just locate height. It can locate or measure in X, Y, and Z. It can also locate holes and arcs with a special attachment.

Part of it's name is the verb of what it does. The name of the manufacturer could be mistaken for an action Lewis and Clark were very familiar with and hated every step of the way.

However, you're the closest yet!

Mazda uses them:

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Is it for transferring the profile , curvature,etc from a model/template on to a part to be machined? I once assisted an engineer from Finland, measure the profile of a variable pitch ,ship's propeller. He used something, that, although modern and linked to a laptop , looked fairly similar.
 
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It's a clay-cutting-measurement-aligner-thingymajiggy, right?

Nope, it's not for cutting clay. Clay modelers do use them for establishing symmetry and locating features, which is my prime use. But that's not what they're made for, nor the name of the machine.

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A pantagraph?

Not a pantograph, MAD.

plewlandsbob said:
Is it for transferring the profile , curvature,etc from a model/template on to a part to be machined? I once assisted an engineer from Finland, measure the profile of a variable pitch ,ship's propeller. He used something, that, although modern and linked to a laptop , looked fairly similar.

Oh so close!

In 1958 when the first machine was built the manufacturer was more interested in saving companies like William Doxford and Sons lots of money. Before 1958, the task this machine was designed to do was completed with rather archaic tools and was very time consuming.

Doxford would have used the machine here:

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And here:

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What those guys are doing is the key to the name of the machine.

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Good guess! I suppose I could use it for that, but you're right, much too fancy for that operation. Rest assured, GM, Ford and Chrysler all use it for headlights though. :bounce:

The precursor of my machine is shown being used in one of these photos. Although it could have been present in several more and would have had an impact on almost every part photographed:

http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/guides/William_Doxford_and_Sons#The_Manufacturing_Process

Wooooooahhhh, those pictures are unreal!
 

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I have no idea what it is, but I will be starting a job in Brantford in a couple of weeks...

That plant closed in the early 80s.
 
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eclipse surface gauge?...............shot in the dark after surfing.........

It isn't made by eclipse and it isn't called a surface gauge. Though, it performs the same task as a surface gauge.

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I have no idea what it is, but I will be starting a job in Brantford in a couple of weeks...

That plant closed in the early 80s.

I was wondering about that... I figured it had been in storage at the machinery dealer for a LONG time. They're a very esoteric machine. Very few companies have a use for one.

What did they make there?
 
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You guys are close to figuring out what it's called. Look at those photos above and tell me what they're doing. Every machinist knows how to do it, just not necessarily on that scale.

What they're doing in those photos is part of the machine's name. If you can figure out the machine's name, Google will turn up the website of the sole supporting dealer / machine shop that also owns the rights to the name and the machine. You'll then be able to name of the original manufacturer.

The manufacturer is to this machine what Bridgeport is to turret mills.
 
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It's about time you told us..

What is it?

It's called a Layout Machine.

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First introduced by the Portage Machine Company, a manufacturer of boring mills, in 1958. Since then, the incredibly simple and kinematically correct triangular column design of the Portage Layout Machine has been copied by every manufacturer of layout and co-ordinate measuring machines of this type.

The Portage machine, also licensed and built by Sheffield and later Bendix is now supported by employees of the machine shop that built the original machines in 1958. R.W.D Enterprises bought the rights to the design from Bendix in 1983 when Portage Machine closed and is now the soul supporting company for machines of this type. The machines they manufacture, calibrate and install are unchanged from the original Portage machine except for the possible application of digital readouts to customer specifications.

What Was it Built For?

The Layout Machine was designed for one application: Preparing large castings and forgings for machining by layout. Proper casting layout is important because these parts are not always identical before machining. Cores especially have a tendency to move during the pour.

The purpose of casting layout is to determine if all the critical features, especially cored bores, will clean up during machining. Each critical feature on a casting will be roughed in with a layout machine using a table of dimensions or a "setting stick". Every single part in the Doxford photos that has layout paint on it would have been touched and influenced by a Portage machine only a few years after the photos were taken.

The Portage machine saved a significant amount of time over using a surface gauge as shown in the Doxford photos because it negated the need to flip the casting three times to reference the datum plane, or use large squares, as a surface gauge is only capable of locating height from the surface plate. By using special Portage Layout Plates, which have grooves every 5 inches in both X and Y, accurate measurements can be made in all three axes and lines scribed in X, Y, and Z with special spring-loaded scribing attachments. Bores could be laid out with a circle-scribing attachment, negating the need to locate and block the center of the bore with a piece of wood before scribing the bore with a divider as shown in the Doxford photos.

Layout plates are generally recessed into the floor at many companies as they will be in my shop. The common plate size is 5' by 5' by 4,800lbs per plate. Each plate is individually leveled in the floor pit and bolted to it's neighbor before grouting in. Thus, plate size is governed entirely by how many plates you bolt together.

Examples of installed plates and machines:

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What Else Can it Be Used for?

Layout machines were quickly adopted for use outside of heavy machining. Made in various standard sizes from 2' tall to over 10' tall, automotive stylists and clay modelers quickly adopted them for locating critical features in clay models and preserving symmetry. The Portage machine has become a critical tool in the design of automobiles since their adoption. Both "bibles" of automotive and industrial modeling have entire sections on the application of the Portage Machine. The Portage machine is preferred over all others for it's smooth, well-balanced feel and ease of use.

Ford Motor Company adapted a Portage #72 for digitizing clay models in 1965. GM and Chrysler quickly made their own versions of this machine. By the early 1970's Chrysler had a fully CNC controlled Portage machine with automatic scanning and a non-contact probe. In the process, they inadvertently created one of, if not the first computerized Coordinate Measuring Machines.

Portage was working on a new machine however, called the Portage Inspection machine. Guided by laser interferometers and electronic differential levels on a hand-fitted cast iron and granite base, it was the first high-accuracy CMM. High-accuracy CMM's are now an integral part of manufacturing and inspection the world over, but it all started with a low accuracy problem: Avoiding scrap castings due to boring holes in the wrong location.

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Sorry for dragging this old thread out of its grave, but I thought I would toss in a tidbit about the manufacturer. Massey was at one point the biggest employer in Brantford, and one of the toolmakers I apprenticed under did his apprenticeship at Massey, and his dad was one of Massey's tool room machinists, and cutter grinders.

I believe they made primarily combines in Brantford, and were a pretty unique manufacturer, in that they did everything. When I say everything I literally mean it. They had their own in house foundry, they designed and built their own tooling, had their own stamping plant. They did everything themselves.

Another interesting thing about them, is that Massey and a couple other agriculture companies basically stopped the automotive industry from taking roots in Brantford. The story I have heard is that Ford wanted to move to town here, and Massey, and White's were so worried about their workforce being lured over to a car plant, that they essentially convinced the city to not sell land to Ford, so they wouldn't have competition for labour.
 
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