what is the best lock? unpickable? uncuttable?

[rsanter]

what is the best lock for a door? one that cannot be cut drilled or picked? is there such a thing?

also for a padlock...is there one that cannot be cut, picked or otherwise??

bob

 

[Busted_Knuckles]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

A pad lock with an "ACE" tumbler is not "easy" to pick, and as far as cutting locks off, if someone has a grinder or a torch, I dont know of anything that is afford-ably commercially available that will slow anyone down.

I keep this style padlock I use on my truck (that has tools, it can be cut, but not readily picked)

 

[rlitman]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

Cylindrical locks are seriously easy to pick. Look up the videos of people opening them with modified Bic pens.

Abloy cylinders are highly resistant to picking or drilling, but are a little weird in their operation.
Medeco cylinders (the ones with the real sidebar installed) are also pretty pick proof.
I have a few Miwa magnetic cam locks that came from Japanese gambling machines. Those are as tamperproof as I've ever seen.

But you're asking about something that cannot be cut or drilled. What sort of vault door and wall is this going into? Anyone with a gas demolition saw isn't going to have a hard time cutting just about any lock or door (perhaps doing it inconspicuously is more difficult though).

No matter how strong you fortify a door, there is always a way in. The most you'll get from a better lock, is some form of evidence left behind of forced entry. That alone however was enough for me to choose to use Medeco locks on my home.

 

[Busted_Knuckles]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

Cylindrical locks are seriously easy to pick. Look up the videos of people opening them with modified Bic pens.

Ok, I stand corrected, prior to youtube, they where considered not an easy "pic".

 

[57210]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

Master makes a hidden shackle lock and hasp that looks pretty secure

 

[rlitman]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

Ok, I stand corrected, prior to youtube, they where considered not an easy "pic".

Yeah, they used to be considered very safe. The theory was pretty good, and if you managed to pick one, it would only turn a slight angle before locking up again. Reality set in hard though, when somebody figured out the technique a few years back, which forced Kryptonite to have a huge recall of locks, and changed everything over to a traditional key (which isn't bump resistant that I know of).

 

[MoToys]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

You asked, here is your answer. Mul-T-Lock
http://www.mul-t-lock.com/306.html
It is available in any lock i.e. deadbolt, knob, padlock, cam lock, etc.
PM me if you have any specific questions.

 

[rlitman]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

You asked, here is your answer. Mul-T-Lock
http://www.mul-t-lock.com/306.html
It is available in any lock i.e. deadbolt, knob, padlock, cam lock, etc.
PM me if you have any specific questions.

I've dealt with those, and the system appears to be pretty pick resistant.
It's probably secure enough in the US, however years back there was a huge scandal where a factory worker was taking home duplicate keys, and selling them to thieves.

Their pin-in-pin design is unique to them, but doesn't offer much better bump resistance than other designs. They have been bumped with specially modified keys (it's a little more elaborate than a standard bump key, as it requires a special back-stop). That's my biggest issue with them. If it can be bumped, it can be opened, with no outward signs of force.

At least with the Kwikset smartkey system that people have opened with a screwdriver, the bent pins inside are a dead giveaway.

 

[MoonRise]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

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[rsanter]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

I know someone willing to put in the time can get into anything, I want to knock off the 98percent of society that will put some effort but stop short of a mission impossible scenario

Bob

 

[2manytoyz]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

what is the best lock for a door? one that cannot be cut drilled or picked? is there such a thing?

also for a padlock...is there one that cannot be cut, picked or otherwise??

bob

If noise isn't an issue to someone wanting in, a lock merely slows them down.

One of the techniques a few years ago was to put a bumper jack in a door jam sideways, crank the handle until the frame pushed apart near the lock. The wood frame around the door will bend or crush, allowing the bolt to swing free of the frame.

Padlocks are a joke. Put a pipe wrench on it and twist until either the lock comes apart, or the shackle rips from the door.

Two years ago I had a storage until broken into. Dozens were hit that night. This was inside a fenced area, with security cameras, and a guard living on the compound. He never heard a thing. Cut padlocks littered the ground.

A 36" bolt cutter slices easily through a 3/8" shank on a hardened padlock. I've tried this myself, after my stuff was stolen, to find out how easy it was for them. This was EASY, and very quiet. I also tried it with a 24" bolt cutter, this was a LOT more difficult.

After that, I started using a padlock with a hidden shank. Can't get a bite with a bolt cutter on these. But a year later, the lock failed, and I had to cut mine off. I let the office know what I was doing, so nobody would call the cops! The 18V Dewalt grinder with a cutoff wheel sliced through the stainless steel body, and the lock shank, in very short order. It did make a lot of noise, but nobody stopped by to see what the noise was, not even people storing stuff in their units, who had no clue what I was up to.

I no longer store stuff in storage units! I keep things at home, behind several locks, a security system, including CCTV cameras. The home owner has something for crooks too.

So how long does it take to cut through a 3/8" padlock with a Dremel? 45 seconds. How long with a Dewalt 18V grinder with a cutoff wheel? 10 seconds. With a 36" bolt cutter? About 5 seconds, with very little noise.

Video of the power tools slicing up one of my locks:

I hate crooks.

 

[rlitman]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

The brass cylinders in those disc locks are also easy drillable. Abus makes a better version. There are plenty of bolt cutter resistant locks. I've got an Abloy Enforcer with a 5/8" boron steel shank. It's just hard to find a hasp that it will fit, but it would probably defeat a 6' bolt cutter. Other designs (like the disc lock) have a shank that is hard to get to, or a puck lock (wouldn't fit your storage hasp though) where everything is totally enclosed.

Still, somebody would probably have noticed it if a few dozen locks were cut off with a grinder at night.

 

[MoToys]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

I've dealt with those, and the system appears to be pretty pick resistant.
It's probably secure enough in the US, however years back there was a huge scandal where a factory worker was taking home duplicate keys, and selling them to thieves.

Their pin-in-pin design is unique to them, but doesn't offer much better bump resistance than other designs. They have been bumped with specially modified keys (it's a little more elaborate than a standard bump key, as it requires a special back-stop). That's my biggest issue with them. If it can be bumped, it can be opened, with no outward signs of force.

At least with the Kwikset smartkey system that people have opened with a screwdriver, the bent pins inside are a dead giveaway.

Giving out keys would do no good as the factory does not know who or where the locks are actually being installed.
Second the old standard multlock original can be bumped (black head) with expensive specialty tools but the new interactive and mt5 can not be bumped.
Third, you'd rather have a kwikset lock that can be defeated by a ***** and a screwdriver than even the original multlock that requires tools and knowledge to possibly open? Just wanted to understand your logic.

I know someone willing to put in the time can get into anything, I want to knock off the 98percent of society that will put some effort but stop short of a mission impossible scenario

Bob

Than multlock is the way to go. If its created by man it can be destroyed by man. Multlock will slow them down for sure.

 

[darkk]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

Weld it shut...

 

[Trucky]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

BiLock, Schlage Primus, locks like those for doors. Of course you'll want a nice door to go with it if you're spending that kind of dough on the locks. They're really nice... and expensive. Very secure designs.

 

[hh76]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

If noise isn't an issue to someone wanting in, a lock merely slows them down.

I disagree. It would be quicker to break my patio door than to get out my keys and unlock it.

The best way, I think, would be to shield the lock so that you only have access to the key hole. Then there would be no way to use the bolt cutters, and a grinder would have a lot more material to go through.

 

[jlckmj]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

I owned a locksmith service for 15 years I found that the Medeco, Schlage Primus, to name a couple are very pick resistant cylinders.

If you are looking for a padlock and hasp type set up look for the American puck lock, (do a google and click images) they are very difficult to defeat, they have mushroom pins that make the bumping and picking harder than most. They are much stronger than almost any hasp mount on the market, so the hasp would be your weak link.

Like mentioned above, you can put a $250 lock on a door with a 3/4 inch wood jamb, and guess what, the lock will hold, but a swift kick will split the door jamb. Security is done as a whole package, not just the lock.

My personal feeling is that you want it to look as hard as possible to break in hoping they go somewhere else. Now if you have valuables and the thieves know it, and they want in, you want to make it as hard as possible to break in, PLUS, you want a security system that sounds an alarm, notifies you or some monitoring desk, and you want it all on video.

I was also a cop for 26 years, video systems are great because in most (I said MOST) areas the cops know the bad guys, they could guess who was stealing what, but they need the video to ID them and pick them up.

ALSO, don't forget the insurance policy.

Jim

 

[rlitman]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

Giving out keys would do no good as the factory does not know who or where the locks are actually being installed.
Second the old standard multlock original can be bumped (black head) with expensive specialty tools but the new interactive and mt5 can not be bumped.
Third, you'd rather have a kwikset lock that can be defeated by a ***** and a screwdriver than even the original multlock that requires tools and knowledge to possibly open? Just wanted to understand your logic.

I'm not too familiar with the new mt5 (I've read a few things about it, but that's all). The issue with stolen keys was not in the US. Their original sales concept was not in selling locks, but in high security doors (think of a custom steel door with a deadbolt system with latches that stick out of all four sides into a custom frame), all secured with their custom lock design. It was a soup to nuts package, and the factory was selling the doors and doing the installation. Anyway, this was 20+ years ago.

No, I'm not necessarily advocating Kwikset for high security, but for a residential lockset, you just want three things.
1) Enough brute force strength to resist a kick in (although the point of failure here is usually the strike-plate/door-frame and how well it is installed)
2) Enough security to make your house appear to be more formidable a target than similar houses in your neighborhood.
3) Something that leaves behind proof of forced entry. This is foremost in my opinion, as it is often necessary to make an insurance claim, and is why ANYTHING that can be opened without leaving signs of damage is worthless IMHO.

Kwikset meets 1 and 3, just fine (installed correctly), and may be fine for #2 depending on your neighborhood or what can be seen through your windows.

 

[mslisaj]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

I had a friend that swore by the Mul-T-Lok and she spent big bucks to have those installed on her home. Reading all the ways to defeat door locks and especially the car jack to the door frame sort of makes all the locks rather a moot subject. My common response to all the heavy duty locks on her house or most any house for that matter was that if someone wanted in bad enough then a window would certainly be an easy pass through. My father always said make it look tough, don't advertise what you have and that was the best security. His advice and luck has kept me in good shape. The one time I was broken into they took either a pipe wrench or a big pair of pliers and just twisted the door knob. Of course I was too lazy to set the deadbolt that day and lost nothing but a VCR. But now I'm back to my father's advice.

Wish us all luck that it's not our house they pick.............

Lisa

 

[Stuart in MN]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

I have Medeco locks on my house. They're expensive, but very high quality.

 

[Norcal]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

Locks are for honest people, just keeps em honest, if somebody wants to get in bad enough they will.

 

[MoToys]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

Op asked specific questions yet most felt the need to respond with unhelpful comments.
We all know a lock won't stop someone forever and layered security is best but that's not what he asked. All the other items suggested are somewhat helpful but don't pertain to op's original question. I answered quickly yesterday because I was at work but here is what I got for you bob.

Multlock interactive is pick and bump proof lock yet it is not totted as that so they (mutlock) are not open to a lawsuit should someone eventually figure out how to bump/pick a multlock interactive cylinder. So... They are called bump/pick resistant as are all high security locks on the market today.
As far as cutting, a cutting wheel will cut through any lock deadbolt or padlock but a better lock with use better materials will give more resistance. Multlock deadbolts have hardened steel in the face and multlock padlocks have boron shackles.

Most of you also miss the point that in many urban areas one steel door is the only accesss to an area so good locks on that door will even slow down a skilled locksmith. Again the perimeter will eventually be broken depending on how much time you have and what tools you are using.
Simply put, I am a locksmith and have my choice what to personally use and I have multlock on home, business, and almost any other item I lock.

 

[AndyL]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

Not a locksmith, but - I slept at a holiday inn last night... lol

Retails always spec stanley BEST lock cylinders - I'm guessing they don't do it to blow extra cash... Never mind re-keying is stupid quick...

 

[twincam00]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

disk type padlocks are much harder to break into

I would support Masterlock if you can, they recently moved their production from China to Milwaukee, Wisconsin

 

[MoToys]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

Not a locksmith, but - I slept at a holiday inn last night... lol

Retails always spec stanley BEST lock cylinders - I'm guessing they don't do it to blow extra cash... Never mind re-keying is stupid quick...

Yes ic is specified for most retail as they can change their own locks with a set of spare cores at a moments notice. They are usually master pined and very easy to pick due to multiple sheer lines. Maybe you should have stayed at a Hilton instead and got a better night sleep.

disk type padlocks are much harder to break into

I would support Masterlock if you can, they recently moved their production from China to Milwaukee, Wisconsin

Same company as American lock now also. American is made here as well.
As far as disk locks go, they really don't offer much additional security over traditional padlocks, not worth the added hassle associated with using them.

 

[DoyleDee]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

We use assa locks at work, but I'm not sure they have a residential line of locks. You need to find a lock that has the most pick proof pins..(Google will show examples). Master lock can be picked easily (I pick them for fun just because- and never unlawfully- just to see if I can.) One lock I haven't been able to pick is from "American lock" , they are aluminium bodied and you can remove the cylinder body once you have the lock opened---but, they can be cut (I'm not sure if they have the cylinder shaped round lock).
The assa locks we use can run high...$100 a pad lock...

 

[ddawg16]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

I owned a locksmith service for 15 years I found that the Medeco, Schlage Primus, to name a couple are very pick resistant cylinders.

If you are looking for a padlock and hasp type set up look for the American puck lock, (do a google and click images) they are very difficult to defeat, they have mushroom pins that make the bumping and picking harder than most. They are much stronger than almost any hasp mount on the market, so the hasp would be your weak link.

Like mentioned above, you can put a $250 lock on a door with a 3/4 inch wood jamb, and guess what, the lock will hold, but a swift kick will split the door jamb. Security is done as a whole package, not just the lock.

My personal feeling is that you want it to look as hard as possible to break in hoping they go somewhere else. Now if you have valuables and the thieves know it, and they want in, you want to make it as hard as possible to break in, PLUS, you want a security system that sounds an alarm, notifies you or some monitoring desk, and you want it all on video.

I was also a cop for 26 years, video systems are great because in most (I said MOST) areas the cops know the bad guys, they could guess who was stealing what, but they need the video to ID them and pick them up.

ALSO, don't forget the insurance policy.

Jim

Couldn't have put it any better myself.....

 

[2manytoyz]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

I disagree. It would be quicker to break my patio door than to get out my keys and unlock it.

The best way, I think, would be to shield the lock so that you only have access to the key hole. Then there would be no way to use the bolt cutters, and a grinder would have a lot more material to go through.

Disagree? Please read the original poster's question! It wasn't about YOUR house.

If your patio door is a slider, only need a screwdriver to lift it out of the track, and I'm in.

A front door is no challenge either. Buy a high end door, and a lock to go with it, I'll bring the grinder with a cutting blade. Turn it vertical, slide it between the door and the jam, slice off the bolt in 20 seconds.

Got windows in your house, yea, glass not so good at stopping anyone. Or could simply cut a hole in the wall or roof. 18V Dewalt circular saw on the back of a roof, out of sight of the neighbors. 4 quick cuts, into the attic.

The same storage unit that I had stuff stolen from, had a fire a couple of years before. The Fire Dept never bothered to cut the locks to find which units were on fire (all were smoking in the row), so they simply cut each steel door apart in a matter of minutes.

My advice... buy a LOUD alarm system. If someone wants in, they'll get in. But if you have a loud alarm, they're not going to have time to "shop". Might smash and grab, but won't be backing up a moving truck.

I won't specify what my alarm system is, but parts have been modified. I highly recommend these sirens: http://www.smarthome.com/72762/Elk-Outdoor-120dB-Horn-Siren-SS30/p.aspx 120dB. A few of these going off at once, is enough to cause a bowel emptying experience!



I may not be able to keep them out, but I can get them to leave quickly, and the CCTV system will let me see who I need to go visit.

I used to work for an alarm company. The other half of the shop was a lockshop. Couldn't stop people from breaking in, but could prevent them from taking anything. One of the commercial break-ins was through a wall - which is why I mentioned it as a possibility. They didn't trigger a door/window sensor, but the didn't realize the PIR dectector had triggered a silent alarm. Cops nabbed 'em before they were finished loading up.

If you do nothing else (anyone/everyone), please buy some alarm system decals, and put them on your doors and windows. That alone will deter many from breaking in. Doesn't matter if you have an alarm or not. Trick I learned from the alarm company owner.

 

[PeterT]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

I've been looking for some good sirens, I will buy these... Another question, I would like to put the sirens on some motion detectors. Even nicer would be a key fob (decent quality) that I can turn the alarm off when I enter and exit.
The stuff I find on the internet is chinese garbage. The key fobs are toys and wouldn't last more then a few days carrying with you.

How would i go about tieing in one or two of the above sirens into a motion detector, then be able to turn it on or off (preferably remotely). SHoudl I call a security company in? Won't they normally just want to sell me a montly plan, which I don't want.

 

[2manytoyz]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

Check out the AAS brand security systems on Amazon. They sell a fairly basic system, or one with many sensors. Very simple to install, and it works well. The wireless door/window sensors are smaller than the ones used by ADT. The only downside to this system is the relatively small sirens.

But a little modification, you can use whatever sirens you want. The alarm panel has a 12V output intended to operate a small wired siren. This output can be connected to a 12V relay, an external power supply, then you can use whatever sirens/strobes you wish.

PIR detectors are excellent. They only get bypassed in the movies. The newer versions also will work if you have pets up to a certain size.

Also, visit the SmartHome website. They have lots of security hardware and systems available. Good prices, good products.

 

[Tech Guy]

As a 30 year licensed master locksmith, ASSA V10 is probably your best with the side bar. Uses mushroom pins to avoid picking and ball bearings in the front half to spin drill bits if anyone tries to drill. Next would be Schlage Primus which is the same as ASSA but on a smaller scale. Schlage licenses their sidebar design from ASSA. For padlocks, Master 6000 series is probably the best with the Boron Alloy shackle but a torch or cut off wheel will get thru the shackle

 

[Busted_Knuckles]

As a 30 year licensed master locksmith, ASSA V10 is probably your best with the side bar. Uses mushroom pins to avoid picking and ball bearings in the front half to spin drill bits if anyone tries to drill. Next would be Schlage Primus which is the same as ASSA but on a smaller scale. Schlage licenses their sidebar design from ASSA. For padlocks, Master 6000 series is probably the best with the Boron Alloy shackle but a torch or cut off wheel will get thru the shackle

Tech guy, not flaming you, or anyone else who mentioned this lock or any other lock for that matter, further more, I fully admit to no nothing about locks, but for grins, I googled "ASSA V10" and on the first page of returns, 3 youtube videos showing how to pick them. Interesting to see, just as quick as someone invents a new mouse trap, somebody is there to "de-struct" their mouse trap!

I googled it, primarily under the premise, I might be interested in buying the lock, but it seems hopeless, if it does not get picked, it gets cut, cant cut it, cut around it, if that does not work, drive a truck through it. Short of an armed guard, sounds like its hard to keep things under "lock".

 

[theoldwizard1]

As others have said, the lock is only as good as the door !

Heavy duty commercial doors are steel (not the thin sheet metal you find at HD or Lowes) with heavy steel frames that are built into the structure. The doors swing out so that battering rams have to break the structure and push the entire door and frame in. Difficult, noisy and time consuming.

My Dad ran a retail store for awhile, his back door was as I just described, set into the building's block wall. Because it was a secondary entrance it had no lock cylinder. What it had was 4 1/2", hand throw, surface mounted deadbolts (1 high, 1 low on left and right). They were bolted through the door (carriage bolt heads on the outside).

Some kind a variation of this set up, with solenoids and a wireless receiver would slow down most thieves.

Of course, some one with enough time and a sledgehammer could probably bust through the block wall !

 

[Norcal]

Re: what is the best lock? unpickable? uncutable?

Disagree? Please read the original poster's question! It wasn't about YOUR house.

If your patio door is a slider, only need a screwdriver to lift it out of the track, and I'm in.

A front door is no challenge either. Buy a high end door, and a lock to go with it, I'll bring the grinder with a cutting blade. Turn it vertical, slide it between the door and the jam, slice off the bolt in 20 seconds.

Got windows in your house, yea, glass not so good at stopping anyone. Or could simply cut a hole in the wall or roof. 18V Dewalt circular saw on the back of a roof, out of sight of the neighbors. 4 quick cuts, into the attic.

The same storage unit that I had stuff stolen from, had a fire a couple of years before. The Fire Dept never bothered to cut the locks to find which units were on fire (all were smoking in the row), so they simply cut each steel door apart in a matter of minutes.

My advice... buy a LOUD alarm system. If someone wants in, they'll get in. But if you have a loud alarm, they're not going to have time to "shop". Might smash and grab, but won't be backing up a moving truck.

I won't specify what my alarm system is, but parts have been modified. I highly recommend these sirens: http://www.smarthome.com/72762/Elk-Outdoor-120dB-Horn-Siren-SS30/p.aspx 120dB. A few of these going off at once, is enough to cause a bowel emptying experience!



I may not be able to keep them out, but I can get them to leave quickly, and the CCTV system will let me see who I need to go visit.




I used to work for an alarm company. The other half of the shop was a lockshop. Couldn't stop people from breaking in, but could prevent them from taking anything. One of the commercial break-ins was through a wall - which is why I mentioned it as a possibility. They didn't trigger a door/window sensor, but the didn't realize the PIR dectector had triggered a silent alarm. Cops nabbed 'em before they were finished loading up.

If you do nothing else (anyone/everyone), please buy some alarm system decals, and put them on your doors and windows. That alone will deter many from breaking in. Doesn't matter if you have an alarm or not. Trick I learned from the alarm company owner.

Just before they tore it down Costco let the area FD's practice on the building, & they hacked up all the rollup doors for practice, & knocked a number of holes in the block wall also to practice rescue techniques in a masonry building, rather then add on & remod the building they built a new one, but my point is if someone wants to get in bad enough, they will.........

This may be the best defense:

 

[Jason280]

Reality is, if a thief wants your stuff, they will find a way to get into your home or shop. Period. You can plan all you want, have the most elaborate systems, but they will always find a way. As I've always heard, a lock only keeps an honest man honest.

That being said, there are ways to make yourself less of a target. As mentioned, don't advertise. The less people know about your possessions, the better. Home CCTV systems are good, just make sure whatever you are monitoring is actually being recorded. Pick resistant locks are always good, but pretty much pointless if a thief can simply break a side window and climb in through the bedroom. Of course, that's where home alarms come into play, but still have a lag time of 10-30 minutes. Same goes for drill proof locks and metal doors on shops. I've heard of thieves taking the metal siding off a shop and bypassing the door all together. It helps to have good neighbors and well lighted areas around your property, but is still no guarantee. As its been shown, a cordless grinder with a metal cutting wheel will defeat almost any padlock....and port-a-torch set will defeat them all. It just depends on how motivated the thief is, and how much time they have.

In the end, it seems your only option is really good home owner's insurance.

 

[Busted_Knuckles]

I will interject, for those that have shops/garages on their property with their home (as I do), my shop is about 100' away from the house, and I cant exactly hear with clarity, when someone is breaking in (assuming Im sleeping). Therefore, I have wireless motion detectors in the yard and 2 receivers in the house that announce that a zone has been violated.

All they have to do is enter the property, and if my German Shepherd does not make them out first, my Dakota Alert does. Then its up to me, to intervene with any problems. I also have 12 Hi end CCTV cameras around the property running on a quality PC DVR to record the events. Have not had any problems in years, but Im vigilant, none the less. Not much more that will piss me off than a thief. Im also well insured, but I dont care to use my insurance, its the morals of the whole thing.

 

[srupp]

easy way to open a lock freeze it with liquid nitrogen then tap with hammer.
best lock i saw was used on military ammo bunkers

 

[MacCool]

Assa abloy protec2

 

[Elvenhome21]

Abloy locks are unpickable

 

[Craptain]

Abloy locks are unpickable

No locks are unpickable, they are pick resistant. Some are harder than others.