What is the proper term

[The Cobbler]

Hi all.

I have applied for permit to build a 400sqft garage. Had a colleague do the drawings for me . His forte is store fixtures, wall units etc. all custom stuff for big dollars. He doesn't do any framing.
He did a great job on the drawings, the Building Dept remarked on them even.

One thing I am wondering, It's a gable roof, but along the front will be a ( apron for lack of other words) that ties into the roof line, and there will be trough on it. So the garage will have gable roof, with overhangs down the sides, and the same overhang along the front. trough will be on both sides and front.

whats the term for that front overhang section?
I want to call it an apron or Brow or????

thanks

 

[Ray-CA]

I've heard them being called "eye-brow overhangs or eye-brow eaves"

Ray

 

[Marctrees]

Trough?? me no understand. Splain "trough" please.

Are you just saying a gable end eave that projects out more than average??? Marc

 

[The Cobbler]

trough aka eaves trough.
there would be a small roof section on the gable end that is shingled with the same overhang as the side walls . the eaves trough would be on the front gable and both sides. .

Thanks Ray.

 

[Marctrees]

Anything like this? ............ Marc

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/...9lWn0E75fupsJaC_K_SW9IhjAwr1CXg7T8dkGKqDrfitX

 

[The Cobbler]

Anything like this? ............ Marc

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/...9lWn0E75fupsJaC_K_SW9IhjAwr1CXg7T8dkGKqDrfitX

no
I'll see if I can find a pic

 

[Marctrees]

I just saw you're in Canada.

Not familiar with word "troughs" here unless you mean gutters. Lars

 

[sb7979]

It's an eave return.

 

[The Cobbler]

the section of roof over the garage doors that is shingled

 

[sb7979]

 

[The Cobbler]

yeah, my American friends call them gutters, we call em trough LOL

 

[sb7979]

ah, I see what you are describing is a little different than the pic i posted. I would call yours a continuous return, but I see some references online calling it a "pent roof".

 

[1967mgbgt]

In this area that's referred to as a "return" or "gable return"

 

[6768rogues]

Around here they call it a belt line. I put it on the front of my building which faces south. It keeps water from shedding off the building wall in front of the doors and provides shade for the door openings when the sun is at its highest, in hot weather. I also put lights in it to cast light down the front of the building.

 

[QUIKSVT]

On my house they called these Greek returns.

 

[Commendatore]

Cornice return. When it goes all the way across, it's a full cornice return.

 

[larry4406]

On the houses my company builds, we call the short ones "eyebrows or returns". If it runs the full width of the gable, we call it "water table" (not to be confused with masonry water table).

 

[The Cobbler]

thanks
so no definite term for it
makes me feel good

 

[404]

A very pretty detail, but fussy to install and waterproof correctly. If you can live without it leave it out, it will be a leak point.

 

[The Cobbler]

A..... If you can live without it leave it out, it will be a leak point.

thanks for your input

there's several reasons why I had it included in the plans.
in no particular order
1) to break up visually the fact that the garage is going to be high.
2) more consistent with the house ( and others in the area) when viewed from the street
3) give a bit of a water shield to the garage door when loading/unloading in rain
4) cosmetics

I don't foresee a problem with leaking, flashing behind the siding and all is good. My neighbors garage built in the 50's is done this way & never had an issue as far as I know

 

[FFRKing]

When I built my house, the builder referred to the short ones as "eyebrows" and all the way across was an "apron".
Depending on the available gap above the garage door is how he referred which one to do.

Chris

 

[Firebird 1]

30+ year contractor here. We call the short, a "return", when they run all the way across an "eyebrow". I personally think they make a gable wall look "classier". breaks up the expanse. As far as building and flashing, yes it much easier quicker and cheaper to go strait up with the wall, but they are not hard to build and no harder to flash than any other detail on the roof. If one is concerned about keeping the water out and flashing it properly they shouldn't be in the roofing business.

 

[pstnbly]

They are called boxed returns. Greek, Roman, Victorian, etc., depending on the style of home.

 

[jmarkwolf]

My builder called those "eye brows".

 

[The Cobbler]

My builder called those "eye brows".

look at post 9, that's what I am looking for

tks

 

[Marctrees]

Cobbler Re post #9-- Is this also what you mean?

http://www.theamishtradesmen.com/siteimages/img_0390.jpg

and this- (the one on the gable end)

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/...7D6vuSVN9UzUosQkWAlaU1fdGOa3n2AVGakF4Je4PForA

If so, the general term is Shed roof.

Maybe that helps. Marc

 

[The Cobbler]

not really. similar but the overhang will be equal to the overhangs on the walls . take the picture in post 24 and extend the returns so they meet.

 

[Marctrees]

Sorry, dunno.

Someone will come along to help.

Sounds like a very good looking garage. Marc

 

[Onewolf]

We have them on our house and new detached garage. I call them Rooflettes.