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Found this in my dad's garage. Can't figure out what it was used for. The handle is about 6 ft long; overall length is 77 in. The imprint says Batcheller & Sons, there's lots of info on that company, just not this tool.
 

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Wonder if it was for leading animals by a nose ring, but Larry’s thought sounds good too.

But why the second leg, for either thought? Is it broken?
 
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Very odd tool.

For whatever reason I’m thinking it’s a tool to snag overhead wires/rope and then pull them down via the loop capture or push them up via the U-saddle.

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Thanks for advancing the ball here. Very likely a dual-use, if not multi-use tool; maybe for holding up and pulling down, as you say. That's more plausible then the only thing I could come up with (which was bending rebar - doubt it).
 
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Wonder if it was for leading animals by a nose ring, but Larry’s thought sounds good too.

But why the second leg, for either thought? Is it broken?
Interesting. It appears intact, as designed. On the simple U-end you can tell it was pinched off while the steel was still hot. On the other "maze" end, it doesn't have that rough, jagged surface you expect when a metal bar breaks.
 

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Interesting. It appears intact, as designed. On the simple U-end you can tell it was pinched off while the steel was still hot. On the other "maze" end, it doesn't have that rough, jagged surface you expect when a metal bar breaks.
better pics or it didnt happen
 
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Found this in my dad's garage. Can't figure out what it was used for. The handle is about 6 ft long; overall length is 77 in. The imprint says Batcheller & Sons, there's lots of info on that company, just not this tool.
I'm starting to think this was used aboard ships, to deal with various ropes and lines. My parents house was built by a shipbuilder in the 1880's. Batcheller & Sons was founded in 1816 and continued through 1902.
 
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There are sometimes pushy-pully things used in the paper industry too, as paper machine crews work to thread the guide ropes and wet web through the machine on startup.

That said, I've never seen one like that, and I've worked in some old mills over the years.
 

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one side is missing/ broken, it's a vintage dust mop handle
My thoughts was a mop handle too, if it was symmetrical. But I didn't see anything like that in the first American Fork and Hoe catalog I found, so kept quiet on that idea.
 

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Looks like Batcheller & Sons bought a company called American fork and hoe, so my previous guess that it was a broken garden tool may not be too far off the mark.
 
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one side is missing/ broken, it's a vintage dust mop handle
Well that's less exotic but you may be right. Looking more closely at the top of the 'u' where I thought it was made that way, it's somewhat rough and may have been snipped with giant bolt cutters or the like. Have any photos of anything similar?
 
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1927 Two Man Rake?
Looks like Batcheller & Sons bought a company called American fork and hoe, so my previous guess that it was a broken garden tool may not be too far off the mark.
****, I overlooked it in the 1914 catalog. Good eye Roger. Guess I wasn’t looking close enough.


I think Am Fork & Hoe was a merger of six or eight small independents.

 

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Never heard of such thing. I probably would never use it for raking anything. Probably would use it string Christmas lights. outdoors.
 

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I wish I could act like this was some random fact I recalled from inside my bank of stored knowledge, but the truth is I googled the brand name and happened to see an image of the catalog.

So ya, dumb luck..lol
 

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Did the inventor also invent the handle that allowed tools to stand erect without paid labor required to stand around holding them as part of the scenery?
 
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****, I overlooked it in the 1914 catalog. Good eye Roger. Guess I wasn’t looking close enough.


I think Am Fork & Hoe was a merger of six or eight small independents.

Good history of the Batcheller family here: http://www.yesteryearstools.com/Yesteryears Tools/American Fork & Hoe Co..html According to this there were 17 companies that merged to create AF&H in 1902. Later they acquired Kelly Axe & Tool. Changed their name to True Temper, then were bought by Ames.
 

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Changed their name to True Temper,...
This is true, but it helps to know that it was a brand name first, and for many years, trademarked by AF&H in 1929. The brand name became so popular, and so much more well known than the name of the company itself, that AF&H changed their company name to True Temper in 1949. The reason I point that out is because it's very similar to the Champion DeArment story, better known as Channellock. Oddly though, through conglomeration, True Temper became a brand name again, when True Temper was bought by Ames, becoming Ames True Temper, later, The Ames Companies, then just Ames.

(Ask me how I know! Answer: AF&H was a huge supplier of picks, shovels, and axes during WWII, including those placed in brackets on vehicles, such as jeeps, and it became important to untangle the AF&H/Kelly/True Temper/Ames history to identify correct tools.)

Did the inventor also invent the handle that allowed tools to stand erect without paid labor required to stand around holding them as part of the scenery?
Um, that would be Mr. LiUNA.

/// break ///

Somebody PM when they invent a No-Man Rake!
 

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I've seen them in use by the Garden State Parkway commission workers! Pretty cool actually. Also just saw my first robotic rug cleaner at an airport recently. It parked itself against a wall when the area got congested with people. If it's anything like autonomous projects in the Army, some of which I am involved in, the "party line" that it's not supposed to replace employees but create different classes of employees reminds me of recent tone-deaf politicians saying that various laborers losing their jobs should learn to code, but that's as far as I'm going to go on that subject.

Seriously, I was mainly joking, though. I actually enjoy raking and all other forms of year round yard maintenance. I've been doing it since I was a kid (when we could still burn leaves), which has a rewarding reifying quality all its own, and these days it's sometimes the best and only exercise I get. :)
 

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This 2 man one was for raking rocks, so a heavy duty robot required. Or a good man with an excavator. But would play hell with a lawnmower, and any nearby windows
 
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