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What should I know about refrigerants?

ALinCarolina

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I am researching getting a refrigerated dryer when I set up my new shop. The ones I am considering use R134A and R404A. I have read some about the time table to make different one obsolete so don't want to end up in a bind when products get phased out. Are there dryers out there that use later chemicals than these or should I not worry? For those in the business, what is the next "Freon" to watch for?
 
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Ohmthis

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With the millions, possibly billions of cars with 134a in them I don't see it going away. It is also readily available and not too expensive. That would be my choice.
 
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R134a and R404a will be around for awhile. In the commercial refrigeration business we are just starting to see R290 (propane) in small reach-in units. Have you tried contacting the drier manufacturer to find out what refrigerant they plan to use in the future?
 

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Hi there, being in the industry, yes, R134a does have a phase out date, as do most of the refrigerants we use today. R22 was phased out long ago, but still remains available. This phaseout date can mean a lot of things, but for simplicity here we go:

*Basically, no NEW equipment will be able to be built containing this compound.
*No NEW refrigerant will be made.
*Once Phased out, cost is usually driven higher by market conditions.

However, since ALL refrigerant is required to be recovered, it will be available as "reclaimed" (think re-manufactured, or cleaned-up used).

Also, not all countries have adhered to the various protocols, so "boot-leg" refrigerant is also available. Be warned, many are not what they claim (imagine that, con artist and crooks) and are petroleum based.

For my money, go R404a, while R134a has a 2030 phaseout date, the only date for R404a is under the more general HFC phase out (EU).

This is an ever changing reality in our trade, and its no fun, When I ran service I had just a handful of refrigerants to worry about, now there are hundreds, many of which you may never see again, or at all.

However, all this is really a moot point....no one would do a repair on even a 10 year old air drier, they are like refrigerators these days, disposable.
 
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ALinCarolina

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Thanks for the info everyone. BDCS, that is a good point about throw away appliances and just replacing it down the road. I'm replacing one of our geothermal heat pumps this week. It used older freon and the new one also should be more efficient. It was 28 years old and not worth repairing.
 
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