What Size 12pt Socket Fits a 1" Square Plug?

[coralnut]

one thing that MIGHT be worth considering - is how imortant this plug is, because if the metal is on the softer side im not sure how well a 12pt is gonna last before it starts to round off..

Getting the cast iron plug OUT is all that matters. This is just a cleanout cover plug in a floor drain. It won't be under any pressure, so when I'm done the plan is to put a plastic plug in it's place. Plastic will put an end to the rusty plug problem once and for all.

The plug is tight with a 1" crescent, so I ordered a 1-1/8" square impact.

 

[kctyphoon]

Getting the cast iron plug OUT is all that matters. This is just a cleanout cover plug in a floor drain. It won't be under any pressure, so when I'm done the plan is to put a plastic plug in it's place. Plastic will put an end to the rusty plug problem once and for all.

The plug is tight with a 1" crescent, so I ordered a 1-1/8" square impact.

that might be ok... we have 2 different sized bolts that we use at work..1" and 1 1/8" most guys use the 1 1/8" socket for both.. BUT - the bigger socket SOMETIMES will round off the head of the 1" bolt, but not the nut.. i ordered my own sockets for the m18 fuel 7/16 drive impact i have, and went with the 1" instead to avoid that since i hardly ever use the bigger hardware.. there are double square sockets available that have both sizes in them.. if you have any trouble check out the ebay listing for the 1" apex socket i posted.. that thing is indestructible..

 

[sam.coll]

We use these at work in our hydraulic impact wrenches for line hardware, 4 sizes in 1:

http://www.greenlee.com/products/RUNNER-ASSY%40cNUT.html

Klein make them as well

You will need a 1/2 sq drive to 7/16 hex adapter tho so may not be the cheapest/best option.

 

[coralnut]

that might be ok... we have 2 different sized bolts that we use at work..1" and 1 1/8" most guys use the 1 1/8" socket for both.. BUT - the bigger socket SOMETIMES will round off the head of the 1" bolt, but not the nut.

I'm thinking that this isn't a nut or a bolt, where the standard sizes could be 1" or 1-1/8". It's a pipe plug, where the standard sizes are either 15/16 or 1-1/8. I have 1-1/2 pipes in my house, which should make it 1-1/8". Because a 1" crescent is a really tight fit on the plug I'm assuming that it's something larger than 1", and that means that it's probably a rusty 1-1/8. If I order a 1" socket then I'll have to hammer it on. I'm proceeding under the conclusion that the plug is (was originally) 1-1/8", but has just lost some thickness due to decades of rusting. If that's the case then I think I'll be OK with the 1-1/8" 8-point socket. We'll see.

If 1-1/8 is to big then I'll have the choice of ordering in a second socket in 1" (assuming that the plug is still square) and pounding that on, or just chiselling out the plug and being done with it. I'm only dealing with cast iron, so chiselling is an option. I already had to chisel out the floor grate to get this far. The only reason that I haven't chiselled out the plug already is because not chiselling it out as the first step gives me a reason to buy more sockets.

I have two drains to deal with, so I'd rather buy one or two sockets if that lets me avoid having to chisel out the plugs on two floor drains. The good news is that addressing these plugs isn't an emergency, so I've got time to order in new tools and wait for them.

Thanks again.

 

[kctyphoon]

We use these at work in our hydraulic impact wrenches for line hardware, 4 sizes in 1:

http://www.greenlee.com/products/RUNNER-ASSY%40cNUT.html

Klein make them as well

You will need a 1/2 sq drive to 7/16 hex adapter tho so may not be the cheapest/best option.

those arent 1/2" square drive.. even if they were, a regualar adapter wont really work well with those.. the socket retention is not part of the sqaure drive - its past that part on the round end.. and they are stupid expensive for a once in a while tool..


an apex or snap on lineman socket off ebay is a much better option..

 

[speed bump]

Because I am lazy and don't like breaking stuff the answer to this question is a torch. Heat up the connection and easily remove with crescent. If that isn't possible start considering options for complete connection replacement because if it is that tight there is a good chance it will fail right behind the threads..

 

[johninct]

I think that you need a NON Flank Drive socket too. Also, big square plugs are sometimes not perfect so you may have to try a few different sockets and wrenches to get a good fit.

 

[coralnut]

i had thought about the fire wrench, but I'm not at all enthusiastic about lugging a pair of Size K cylinders into and out of my basement. call me a wimp, but I'll try the square socket first.

 

[dadsEH]

What a dumb *** thread!
right up there with..."what size socket do I need to get the wheel nuts off my 72 Chebby pick-me-up."
P.S.....it's got the optional gun rack in the back winda"

Do you not own more than one socket?
use a pipe wrench and a big *** hammer...yer done.

 

[nicksnothereman]

Title says it all. What size 12-point socket "fits" on a 1" square plug?

I know this isn't a "proper" solution -- I just want to remove something. Once. And I can't find 4 or 8 point in the right size.

"Once" use groove joint and penetrating oil. Should be okay. I mean...if you really want to use a socket you could try fitment to see what's closest in what you got but probably less of a chance of rounding it with a good pair of pliers vs. non direct fitment.

 

[sam.coll]

those arent 1/2" square drive.. even if they were, a regualar adapter wont really work well with those.. the socket retention is not part of the sqaure drive - its past that part on the round end.. and they are stupid expensive for a once in a while tool..


an apex or snap on lineman socket off ebay is a much better option..

I know they are not 1/2 sq drive thats why I said he would need a 1/2sq to 7/16 drive adapter.....and like I also said might not be the best option but another option none the less.