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Vernmotor

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Ok I got a 220 elec-heater came with a 40 amp breaker.I need to run wire about 50ft to this . what size wire should I run?
 
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What numbers does the heater say on it? Specifically Watts. The math starts there.
 
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Vernmotor

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WELL IF and thats a big if! I am reading this right..alot of paper work came with this thing..2 books and 3-4 pages of stuff.. the highest rate I see is 2085kw?? they list difference BTU rating..The way I take it. it has 3-4 coils in it and does not run them all the time..
 

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WELL IF and thats a big if! I am reading this right..alot of paper work came with this thing..2 books and 3-4 pages of stuff.. the highest rate I see is 2085kw??

I'm pretty sure your side of town doesn't consume that much power.

Why not post up a picture of the dataplate?

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Hey Vernmotor, I'm thinking of buying a electric heater what kind did ya get?
 
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WELL IF and thats a big if! I am reading this right..alot of paper work came with this thing..2 books and 3-4 pages of stuff.. the highest rate I see is 2085kw?? they list difference BTU rating..The way I take it. it has 3-4 coils in it and does not run them all the time..

There should be a data plate on the unit, what does it say?
 
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Vernmotor

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OK I will have to wait till tomorrow to look at the unit itself..it is in a box and not easy to get to right this min.. so I will post then..I will take a pic it..it is a Payne heater..it is 5 years old. looks like new ..Grandpa had it in his shop. and got a new one with A/C and a heat pump..so he sold this one to me..cheap. many thanks to all.
 

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It came with a 40A breaker? That's kinda odd. 40A in electric heaters will be in the 7500W (watt) range. My 5000W heater requires #10 on a 30A 220V circuit. 220, 221, whatever it takes. :)
 

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The breaker needs to be at least 125% of the actual amp draw of the heater, watts divided by volts equals amps times one point two five gives you the minimum breaker amps required.

example.... 5000 / 230 = 21.739 amps x 1.25 = 27.17 amps or step up to a 30 amp breaker.

This is due to the fixed electric space heating equipment being considered a continuous load by the NEC (424.3(B))

In any event, NEC does not allow breakers over 60 amps nor heaters over 48 amps. If a heater draws more than this, it has to have separate elements powered by separate branch circuits.

Charles
 
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Vernmotor

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Ok some more info ..This is a payne PF1MNI-B036 it has a 1/3 hp motor and build in 40& 60 amp breakers. The wire that was ran to it has type U XHHW-CDRS on it..grandpa say it had two 220 wires ran to it..but he had a heat pump hooked up to with A/C I will not have a/c or heat pump.
 
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