What texture ceiling is this? Trying to patch, can not remove texture.

[dragonballz]

UPDATE:

The vinegar + water technique worked. Unfortunatley, it took the paper backing of the drywall off with it. Can I still patch with drywall, tape, joint compound without the paper backing?

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I'm trying to patch this hole with drywall. My plan was to remove a few inches of the texture surrounding the hole so I can tape and compound. I've tried the water technique but the "popcorn" is not budging.

It is rock hard. I noticed the hardness while originally trying to make the hole with a hole saw. It would not do anything. Even with an oscillating multi tool, all the teeth on the blade were gone making a small 1" x 1" hole. I eventually used a reciprocating saw to make the big hole.

Thank you

 

[wayne55]

Probably popcorn that has been painted, making it hard.

 

[LB-1911]

^ Looks like paint over a popcorn ceiling.

More images @
https://www.google.com/search?q=POP...orPTAhUm4oMKHTggDkgQ_AUICCgB&biw=1366&bih=638

 

[dragonballz]

Dangit. I'm screwed. I'll guess I'll just go heavy on the popcorn during my patch to hide the cracks that will form.

 

[Leaflessshadetree]

Use a sander with a coarse grit. My belt sander made quick work (and a lot of dust) in a similar situation.

 

[rburke65]

I think the ceiling has had numerous coats so paint on it and a more aggressive attempt will be needed to remove. A pain....I know.

 

[dragonballz]

Probably popcorn that has been painted, making it hard.

^ Looks like paint over a popcorn ceiling.

More images @
https://www.google.com/search?q=POP...orPTAhUm4oMKHTggDkgQ_AUICCgB&biw=1366&bih=638

I think the ceiling has had numerous coats so paint on it and a more aggressive attempt will be needed to remove. A pain....I know.

UPDATE:

The vinegar + water technique worked. Unfortunatley, it took the paper backing of the drywall off with it. Can I still patch with drywall, tape, joint compound without the paper backing?

 

[ishiboo]

It needs to be scraped off.

 

[Piper]

having done a bunch of ceiling repairs on century homes and others I've had great success with spraying a mist of water on the ceiling, letting it soak in for a bit (time varies due to layers of paint, type etc), scraping of to as best a smooth ceiling as possible. Then add a new full ceiling of 1/4" drywall. It's easy to install, super light and will save you a ton of work. Believe me, the extra 1/4" that the ceiling is close to the floor will never be noticed. Do a nice job at the cove molding and nobody will be the wiser. I've tried the scrap off.. repair and paint that you're contemplating and it's never going to look right IMO.

 

[jhelrey]

With the paper is exposed, use a good primer and paint it before you do anything to it. Then mud it, and proceed.

 

[dragonballz]

With the paper is exposed, use a good primer and paint it before you do anything to it. Then mud it, and proceed.

The paper-backing of the drywall is not just exposed, it is gone. It came off with the popcorn.

 

[ssdave]

No harm done, really. Use fiberglass tape, press it onto the gypsum where the paper tore off. Then, mud over it. If you need to build up the thickness a bit to match the adjacent, use another layer of tape and mud over the first after the first layer is thoroughly dry.

 

[dragonballz]

Thank you all

 

[MrBalll]

I saw something on facebook awhile ago where you cut a groove in a 2x4 and put a long razor blade in it that comes slightly over the 2x4. Then you cut a hole in the 2x4 and attach a vacuum cleaner to it. Turn on and get to scraping. Supposedly makes the popcorn come off easier. I'll try and find it.