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What to ask for from a GC

jim260z

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I will be getting estimates from a couple General Contractors in the near future about building my garage.

I have never had any experience when it comes to building anything from scratch. So I am asking the crew here at the Garage Journal. After reading some of the post from its members, I can see your experience could make or break mine.

Is there anything specific I should be asking when it comes to pouring concrete.
I live in NY and it can get quite cold here. Is there any type of material that should be laid down before hand? I have seen on some threads about psi, Is there a particular one I should be asking for? I have seen thickness in the 6 inch range, is this the thickness to stay with?

As for the actual construction of the framing, should I be asking any specific questions? I am looking for the framing with a complete roof and 1 garage door. I know some of this may sound like I don't really know what I am talking about, I'm sorry to say I don't. :(

I would ask about pricing for a 32x42 but everything here on Long Island seems to be really expensive.

On an other note, does anyone have any feeling about going modular?

Like I said this is all new to me so please don't ruff me up to bad.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Jim
 
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Is there anything specific I should be asking when it comes to pouring concrete.
I live in NY and it can get quite cold here. Is there any type of material that should be laid down before hand? I have seen on some threads about psi, Is there a particular one I should be asking for? I have seen thickness in the 6 inch range, is this the thickness to stay with?
Well, personally I would stick with a 6" pour. You should have a vapor barrier down and I would guess some kind of rigid insulation.

As for the actual construction of the framing, should I be asking any specific questions? I am looking for the framing with a complete roof and 1 garage door.
I would assume that it would be built to whatever the local code describes. I would check with the the costs of going with a 2x6 wall for the extra insulation in your area due to the colder temps. I am not sure it would be worth it. Check the max height you can make it. Make it as tall as you can if you plan on getting a lift. If you are limited to a lower height, specify a scissor truss to get the extra height.

I would ask about pricing for a 32x42 but everything here on Long Island seems to be really expensive.

On an other note, does anyone have any feeling about going modular?
I would not be against a modular building. I would base it off of the cost difference.

Like I said this is all new to me so please don't ruff me up to bad.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Welcome to the board! Post pics of the construction!

Thanks,
Jim
 

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I would ask them about their insurance. What types do they carry (commercial general liability, workers' comp, etc.), and their policy limits.
 

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References!!! Then call the references, Google the company name, check the BBB, do whatever it takes to find out about your choice before you make it.

Mark
 

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Do not pay ANYTHING up front or before work is done or materials delivered.
Set the payment schedule for significant points of completion,ie when groundwork,forming is complete,at "lock up stage",at completion of electrical, mechanical rough in inspections,etc.At each stage make sure the necessary inspections have been done and make sure sub contractors and suppliers are getting paid,because if they are not satisfied they will be knocking on your door and slapping liens on your property.You will have to pay a bit more for a reputable contractor who will agree to your terms,but it will save a lot of grief later.
 
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either have drawings made up by an architect or draw your own that show everything the GC is responsible for so when you solicit bids everyone is bidding the same amount of work and its clear the extent of work they "own" on the job, one of the easiest ways to get screwed is the GC screwing you out of money because he "didnt price that in his bid" since he wasnt aware of your requirements on the job.
 

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Live in NYC, was an honest GC, dealt with numerous GCs... there should be a special hunting season for N.Y. GCs, any weapon/method allowed.

Hope you have a good architect/engineer.. have them spec EVERYTHING out, to be added to the contract. Everything from the concrete PSI load grade to the plumbing pipe size, otherwise you will get screwed; architects for an added fee will even create a materials/cost list.
Tell the GC up front, if he cuts corners, he is ripping it out; I have enforced this a few times. Take pictures every day, if possible, just in case you have legal issues. Make sure your plans are OKed by the building department before you do anything. Supply and demand, GCs in NY are getting paid well, especially if you go into contract once they are busy in the spring and summer, go into contract off peak. If work starts in the busy times, have a clause stating they will work in a timely manner, as without it they may jump from your job to others, extending the completion.

Concrete=4500 psi,allow no extra water added when requested by the GC, he will request it; require a slump test or have the driver sign no extra water was added then the specified amount; inform the concrete supplier the load will be tested, even if you do not follow through. Was also a foreman for a GC, and had a tough time with concrete subs watering down crete, had to be at the truck for load dumps, especially if a concrete pumper was used.

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...=concrete+slump+test&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&um=1


As mentioned vapor barrier/insulation/reinforcement; insulation, more the better but gets expensive fast. Personally I would not go less then a FULL 6" of concrete, over a compacted gravel base. If possible keep crete wet for as close to 28 days as possible. If winter pour, have them protect crete from freezing.

2x6 wall/6" insulation a plus, but more expensive. Make sure the architect specifies a good Tyvek wrap job, air seal extremely important for insulation, most GCs cut corners here.

Whatever earth is removed from excavation, is not to be used for back fill, if removed it should be replaced with gravel, back fill settles for up to 50 years.

Min 2" soil stack for wash room, 1 1/2" sink lines clog

Low E double pane windows. Considerably better the standard double pane. Possible triple pane for windows facing street for noise (damn expensive). You want "*****" paper around windows and doors, min 9-12" from all sides, all caulk polyurethane or better. Specify "*****" paper around entire roof edge

If siding is vinyl, check out Norandex Polar Wall. more expensive but insulated, stronger. If I were to do my house over, I would seriously consider cement board siding.

Roof sheathing..minimum 29/32" , don't let them use 1/2", if you get 1/2" the moisture separates the plys and in a few years you have sponge board roof. Nails are best for shingles, 4 per shingle. Floor sheathing, same or better as for roof, material with inter lock edges, presanded one side, again screwed down or live with squeaks.

Pre-wire phone, Ethernet, possible cable, possible home run alarm/fire/CO detectors.

If your utility connections are to be moved, have the architect map the location, or they may be an eyesore. Nothing like gas pipes/meter near your entrance doors.

If your going for a heating system, get the most efficient, as it will pay with the ridiculous utility rates we have here.

Specify 5/8" sheetrock, screwed not nailed. Specify at least 2 weeks drying time before applying final joint compound coat.

Doors...Have the architect beef up the jams so you can run 5-6" screws for the lock plates. Specify door frames are to be primed with oil base primer before installation. Stay away from expensive natural wood doors.

Bathroom...in shower/tub area, use Wonder board or better, NO sheetrock. Fill joints in these areas with auto body filler or water resistant equivalent.

Wood to foundation sill plate, caulked to make air tight.

No sure of the electric code where you are, have all normal runs at least #12.

"I would ask them about their insurance"
They all state they have insurance in NY.. call their insurance company directly, anyone can doctor up an insurance document or drop the coverage. Bonding is great protection for you. Possible good idea to get a short term 1 million personal umbrella coverage, relatively cheap ( I pay 170./yr)

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-contractors-bond.htm

No money up front until substantial materials are delivered. 1/3 at that point, 1/3 at 2/3 job completion, remainder upon completion; might be a good idea to hold back 10% on completion for a few months, or you will never GC again. Make sure ALL inspections are completed and signed off by the building department before final payment; if not signed off, you will pay for it later.

"I know some of this may sound like I don't really know what I am talking about, I'm sorry to say I don't"
After your build you will :)

"Like I said this is all new to me so please don't ruff me up to bad."
Crucification is pretty rare around here :)
 
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jim260z

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Thanks you guys very much. I can see I have A LOT of work/research ahead of me. I'm sure there will be many questions to follow. I will keep u update.
thanks again,
jim
 
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