what to do with it

[NJHandyGuy]

i was recently given half a brrel of sunoco race fuel

it says for off road use only so i am scared to put it in the f150 g35 or bikes

what to do with it any idea's ???

 

[89GLH]

Some race fuel is leaded, thats a no-go with catalytic converters. Supercharged mower?

http://www.bazellracefuels.com/racingfuels.htm

 

[Steevo]

It'll run in anything without a catalytic converter. Probably about 120 octane.

 

[sstruckguy]

If you are uncomfortable using it straight, mix it.

 

[38Chevy454]

Use it in any old non-catalytic converter car or other vehicle, it is most likely leaded fuel. If you have any friends with a high compression muscle car, they can use it just fine. I would mix it anyway about 4-5 gal/tank, since you do not know exactly what age or condition the fuel is.

 

[G_P]

It probably says "offroad use only" because it is untaxed. If it was leaded gas it should say so on the drum label.

I'm actually using a race fuel barrel as my fire pit. It had a fully legible label on it but that burned off long ago. Was a little scary cutting the top off even after filling it with water knowing how flammable that stuff is.....

 

[That Guy Scott]

its hard on O2 sensors too. Mix it and you'll be fine. I ran 110 mixed with pump gas in my Grand National's and never had a problem.

 

[NJHandyGuy]

okay next ? how do i know if it's any good
???

 

[klhitman]

You could always send it to me

 

[Jack Olsen]

It will not run in your engine any differently than lower-octane gas. You would need to adjust the timing or compression of the engine to get more power from it.

It could be as low as 100 octane, and it could be leaded or unleaded. If it's leaded, it will damage a catalytic converter.

Unless you know someone with a motor built and tuned for it, and unless you can find out what octane it is, it's actually kind of useless. Most cars made since 1980 will have catalytic converters on them.

 

[G_P]

Is there a data tag on the barrel? If not the I would not trust it.

 

[buildmyown]

2 strokes love the stuff dirtbikes quads small engines chainsaws weedwackers and so on plus there is no ethenol in for it to go bad.

 

[Chloe Taylor]

If you are uncomfortable using it straight, mix it.

Nice idea.....

 

[NJHandyGuy]

hmm food for thought here

 

[ovilla]

Go to a dragstrip and you should have no problem selling it there or just put up an ad on craigslist.

 

[Zeke]

There are many kinds of "race fuel." NASCAR is now using a 15% ethanol mix, but it's not "street legal."

Look at the Sunoco spec sheet.

 

[JC23]

I hear it's good with corn flakes...

 

[onewaydave]

It probably says "offroad use only" because it is untaxed. If it was leaded gas it should say so on the drum label.

I'm actually using a race fuel barrel as my fire pit. It had a fully legible label on it but that burned off long ago. Was a little scary cutting the top off even after filling it with water knowing how flammable that stuff is.....

BTDT with a used propane tank fixin to be a BBQ pit. That first cut with the torch is real high on the pucker factor!

Dave.

 

[Garage5.9]

BTDT with a used propane tank fixin to be a BBQ pit. That first cut with the torch is real high on the pucker factor!

Dave.

When i was working at a disposal company there was one guy cutting up some drums for the scrap pile. well i never thought atf would make such a BOOM!!! and mushroom the end of the barrel

 

[NUTTSGT]

Probably about 120 octane.

I doubt that. I can't see the label so I don't know what it is, more likely it's 110 or 112, which is more common. It maybe as low as 100 like Jack mentioned.
If it was given away, it's probably old. I know some guys put it in a spray bottle and use it as weed killer.

 

[jocono]

Find a kid that run in some local sat race. I'm sure they could use it and it would help them a lot.

 

[rburke65]

Kill weeds because it's 110 or 112 octane or will regular gas also do this ?

 

[zsuperbee]

that burns nice in my 1970 440 six pak you can send it my way and I'll get rid of it for you.

 

[Joel 67]

Kill weeds because it's 110 or 112 octane or will regular gas also do this ?

Any gasoline will do it. Found that out as a 12 year old while filling (overfilling) the lawn mower. Dad was pissed!

 

[NUTTSGT]

Kill weeds because it's 110 or 112 octane or will regular gas also do this ?

Seems to work exceptionally well on thistles that laugh at regular Round-up.

 

[diggerrick]

It will not run in your engine any differently than lower-octane gas. You would need to adjust the timing or compression of the engine to get more power from it

That depends on the blend. We tried CAM2 in a friend's '70 Charger with a stock 440, and it fouled the plugs and ran like dog ****. Drained the tank, refilled with 92 octane unleaded, and it ran great again.

It has a nice sweet smell though - much better than the nose & eye burning methanol I use.

 

[Jack Olsen]

Yes. Different gas mixes will run differently in different motors. But the distinguishing characteristic of higher octane fuel is its ability to ignite in a narrower range of circumstances -- the degree to which it resists pre-detonation. There is not 'more power' in race gas. It doesn't burn hotter or brighter or with more gusto -- at least not in a way that will affect modern engines.

I say all this because the internet is thick with posts by guys who buy some race gas and talk about how their street car is suddenly a lot more powerful.

It's used because it is a safer mix for engines with high compression ratios. Lower octane gas in those same engines will be prone to predetonation, which will eventually damage the engine.

(Disclaimer: I'm not an engineer or an expert. Just a fiction writer. But this is what I've been told.)

 

[dladcock]

(Disclaimer: I'm not an engineer or an expert. Just a fiction writer. But this is what I've been told.)[/QUOTE]

Jack, Somehow I find a dash of humor in your disclaimer.

Lower octane fuels burn Faster than higher octane fuel.

To offer a visual explanation, if you had a glass tube and put a couple of drops of lower grade fuel inside, shake to atomize the fuel and ignite one end, you would see the flame front travel or flash to the end opposite end of the tube. Explode if you will. Now, same exercise with higher octane fuel will show a slow, smooth flame front that gently travels the length of the tube.

Octane retards the burn, which actually results in a cooler combustion temperature. Compression also contributes to detonation combined with the higher cylinder temps generated with low octane much like a diesel engine operates.

(Disclaimer: WHAT JACK SAID)

 

[Vettman]

Go to a dragstrip and you should have no problem selling it there or just put up an ad on craigslist.

 

[NJHandyGuy]

just so everyone is aware of my find

 

[dladcock]

http://www.sunocoinc.com/Site/Consumer/RaceFuels/UnleadedFuels/Sunoco260GTPlus.htm

 

[gunguy]

Is there a data tag on the barrel? If not the I would not trust it.

Have to agree. Unless it's from a known and trusted source, you just don't know.

Not saying don't use it, but don't expect it to be all that you think it is.

Jim

 

[NJHandyGuy]

http://www.sunocoinc.com/Site/Consumer/RaceFuels/UnleadedFuels/Sunoco260GTPlus.htm

i aprreciate that now what does alll that mean

 

[dladcock]

i aprreciate that now what does all that mean

That's a fair question. Basically, this fuel is an Unleaded Racing fuel with an octane rating of 104. All the other is really mumbo jumbo unless you run the stuff or just want to know for personal satisfaction. Octane degrades over time, sunlight also affects octane.(one reason why gas cans are not clear) You know how gas will turn sour or smell old in the lawn mower? Same with any fuel. It just doesn't keep forever. Is the barrel full, or was it a partial? If sealed and unopened there is a chance it would be o.k., but it may not be as potent as stated earlier.

(EDIT) Went back to your original post. I see it was a broken seal, half barrel. May not be fresh enough to do any real good. May be more of a liability than anything else.

 

[HDP]

2 strokes love the stuff dirtbikes quads small engines chainsaws weedwackers and so on

And Wankel rotaries do as well...

 

[38Chevy454]

That's a fair question. Basically, this fuel is an Unleaded Racing fuel with an octane rating of 104. All the other is really mumbo jumbo unless you run the stuff or just want to know for personal satisfaction. Octane degrades over time, sunlight also affects octane.(one reason why gas cans are not clear) You know how gas will turn sour or smell old in the lawn mower? Same with any fuel. It just doesn't keep forever. Is the barrel full, or was it a partial? If sealed and unopened there is a chance it would be o.k., but it may not be as potent as stated earlier.

(EDIT) Went back to your original post. I see it was a broken seal, half barrel. May not be fresh enough to do any real good. May be more of a liability than anything else.

Since it is unleaded, just mix a few gallons in with each fill-up in whatever vehicle you want. Truck, car, should not matter as long as you run it around 20% or less even old gas will burn fine.

 

[Buckgnarly]

Bonfire?.......signal aliens?

How did you acquire it? I'd be real leery of trusting for anything with an open seal depending on your source.

 

[swamp-donkey]

2 strokes love the stuff dirtbikes quads small engines chainsaws weedwackers and so on plus there is no ethenol in for it to go bad.

And old Harley-Davidson trike golf carts! One year after snowmobile race season was over we had some Phillips race fuel leftover and we have been running it in the golf cart. She runs fast, but hot and likes to backfire a bit but it smells woooonderful!

And yes some of the race fuels are leaded and will reek havoc on your CC's.