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Goose17

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Question for the masses...

I just had a 40x40 metal garage built to house my growing car collection. I moved a few cars into it today. I've read lots of floor threads here and I guess I'm overloaded with options. I know I don't want tile and I'm heavily leaning towards epoxy. I then read about other roll-on flooring to include metallic types and I am left undecided.

From what I've read here, I don't want to acid-etch my floor. It's not good for the metal building or my cars. I'm not sure I need to grind the floor either since it's basically a new slab (poured this past Spring). I did take my palm sander to some caulk/grease/rubber marks from the builder today.

Since my walls are a bright white, I'm leaning towards adding some color with the floor... Possibly blue or red.

I am also planning on adding a couple lifts and a loft and from what I've read here, it's good to install the lifts first so you don't scratch the finished floor. The problem though is it will be awhile until I buy the lifts and my garage will fill up with **** soon, so the time to do the floor is now.

From my reading here, I've also learned one solid color will show flaws in your floor. Flecks help hide imperfections and a marble-type metallic would too. Flecks also make it harder to find dropped parts.

So, I need opinions and expertise. What floor would you do? Here is a pic I snapped earlier today:

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When you say you don’t want tile, what do you mean? Do you mean you don’t want ceramic tile, porcelain tile, plastic tile? Since you don’t want to acid etch or grind the floor, that does limit your options a bit.
 
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When you say you don’t want tile, what do you mean? Do you mean you don’t want ceramic tile, porcelain tile, plastic tile? Since you don’t want to acid etch or grind the floor, that does limit your options a bit.

I don't want any tile. I haven't ruled out grinding the floor, but is that totally necessary for new concrete? My builder did a good job with the slab in my opinion.
 

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I don't want any tile. I haven't ruled out grinding the floor, but is that totally necessary for new concrete? My builder did a good job with the slab in my opinion.
It is my understanding the floor needs to be ground in order to make tiny "grooves" in the concrete for the epoxy to better adhere to. There are other threads here that explain it much better than I can, but that is basically what the people who are "in the know" are saying. I am sure they will chime in when they read this.
 

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If you want a coating then you will definitely have to grind the floor. New concrete generally requires it the most. Reason being is due to the finishing process. Troweling effectively smooths the surface and closes many of the pores that epoxy needs to penetrate in order to create a good mechanical bond. Your floor looks as though it may be power troweled which closes the pores off even more.

The only exception really is Rust Bullet. You can read about that coating here. However, if your floor is power troweled or was treated with a cure-n-seal, then you will still need to grind.
 
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My floor was extensively power troweled and is quite smooth. I guess I need to grind it.
 

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Let me just take a stab in the dark. You got a thing for mustands? :p
 

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What's your budget? Can't expect good recommendations without that.

As for what would I do? I'd be putting porcelain tiles down. I know you've discounted that option but it's what I would do.
 

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So why don't you like polished and acid stained? Aren't you supposed to wash and neutralize the floor and then seal it? I can't imagine Wally World do it if it stayed caustick and seems to hold up forever.
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Question for the masses...

I just had a 40x40 metal garage built to house my growing car collection. I moved a few cars into it today. I've read lots of floor threads here and I guess I'm overloaded with options. I know I don't want tile and I'm heavily leaning towards epoxy. I then read about other roll-on flooring to include metallic types and I am left undecided.

From what I've read here, I don't want to acid-etch my floor. It's not good for the metal building or my cars. I'm not sure I need to grind the floor either since it's basically a new slab (poured this past Spring). I did take my palm sander to some caulk/grease/rubber marks from the builder today.

Since my walls are a bright white, I'm leaning towards adding some color with the floor... Possibly blue or red.

I am also planning on adding a couple lifts and a loft and from what I've read here, it's good to install the lifts first so you don't scratch the finished floor. The problem though is it will be awhile until I buy the lifts and my garage will fill up with **** soon, so the time to do the floor is now.

From my reading here, I've also learned one solid color will show flaws in your floor. Flecks help hide imperfections and a marble-type metallic would too. Flecks also make it harder to find dropped parts.

So, I need opinions and expertise. What floor would you do? Here is a pic I snapped earlier today:

GOPR0533_zpsbbsvjnip.jpg

If you want a coating then you will definitely have to grind the floor. New concrete generally requires it the most. Reason being is due to the finishing process. Troweling effectively smooths the surface and closes many of the pores that epoxy needs to penetrate in order to create a good mechanical bond. Your floor looks as though it may be power troweled which closes the pores off even more.

The only exception really is Rust Bullet. You can read about that coating here. However, if your floor is power troweled or was treated with a cure-n-seal, then you will still need to grind.

Shea is dead on here.
 
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Let me just take a stab in the dark. You got a thing for mustands? :p

Ha! Yes I do. I have 5. That's the reason for the big garage.

So why don't you like polished and acid stained? Aren't you supposed to wash and neutralize the floor and then seal it? I can't imagine Wally World do it if it stayed caustick and seems to hold up forever.
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Almost FORD BLUE !

Ironically, I was looking at flooring pictures this morning and believe I have come to a color decision. I'd like a multi-colored blue (like water) with a high gloss finish. I am assuming one needs to go the metallic route to achieve the look. Something like these:

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Big question is where do you live? Did I miss that? Do you have salty winters, and stuff like that?
 

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Guys, my 2 cents.
Epoxies are great for garage floors.

However the metallic floors are better for wax on, wax off. If you are a real wrench turner look to a nice flake system.
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Big question is where do you live? Did I miss that? Do you have salty winters, and stuff like that?

I live in the DFW area. No winter messy/slippery floors.

Guys, my 2 cents.
Epoxies are great for garage floors.

However the metallic floors are better for wax on, wax off. If you are a real wrench turner look to a nice flake system.

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The garage is more of a showcase for my cars and a storage facility. I will have a couple lifts and will do light work on the cars, but no plans for serious wrench turning.
 

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I have nothing to add to this thread as you ruled out tiles... But I had to comment on the 04 Mystichrome Cobra and the 93 Teal Green Cobra. Sweet rides man! :drool: :thumbup:

BTW, what are the other 2 Mustangs you have?
 
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Unless you hire my avatar there's no issue with acid work. That happens when the DIY crowd plays a yout00bz video while putting an 'iXpurt" finish on his floor.
Obviously you have a nickel or 2. Call in a pro and get it done. It's the ultimate car cave-museum look. Hands down.
 
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I have nothing to add to this thread as you ruled out tiles... But I had to comment on the 04 Mystichrome Cobra and the 93 Teal Green Cobra. Sweet rides man! :drool: :thumbup:

BTW, what are the other 2 Mustangs you have?

Thank you sir! The 04 Mystichrome is all stock and has 14,000 miles on it. The 93 is original down to the stereo and tires and has 11,000 miles on the clock. The far car is my 750 hp 2011 GT500 that I drive often. It's too much fun to let sit.

Other fun cars not pictured are my 89 GT vert I've owned for 25 years, my 02 GT coupe I gave to my 16 year old son this year and another (secret) car on a transporter to be delivered early next week... Thus the reason for the garage!

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Hi. You basically answered many of the questions yourself, but you do need to grind or otherwise mechanically prepare. New concrete in our opinion should always be prepped.

Lots of options available, you can also go the tile route like our industrial www.supratile.com.
 
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Thank you sir! The 04 Mystichrome is all stock and has 14,000 miles on it. The 93 is original down to the stereo and tires and has 11,000 miles on the clock. The far car is my 750 hp 2011 GT500 that I drive often. It's too much fun to let sit.

Other fun cars not pictured are my 89 GT vert I've owned for 25 years, my 02 GT coupe I gave to my 16 year old son this year and another (secret) car on a transporter to be delivered early next week... Thus the reason for the garage!

Fantastic!! I have a rare 2001 Bullitt in True Blue all stock with 17,000 miles on it. Looking to add either an 86 GT or a 87-93 coupe to the garage, still searching for the car. I would love to know what the secret car is?
 
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Fantastic!! I have a rare 2001 Bullitt in True Blue all stock with 17,000 miles on it. Looking to add either an 86 GT or a 87-93 coupe to the garage, still searching for the car. I would love to know what the secret car is?

I moderate a Mustang forum and they are waiting to find out what it is as well. I'll post a pic or video when it's in my possession.

As for the floor, based on the responses, sounds like grinding is in order. I'm not sure if I'll tackle the project myself or pay to have it done. It will depend on quotes I receive.

As for the actual floor covering... To get the multi-colored blue look I am assuming it requires metallic epoxy with a gloss top coat - polyurea?
 

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It requires...
A dark primer
Metallic epoxy color a
Metallic epoxy color b
Clearcoat , urethane

The A&B metallic colors are intermixed on the floor, giving the swirly effect.

It's not hard to do and very rewarding!!


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Hi, metallic epoxy is normally a 3 step process of a color coordinated primer, 100% solids epoxy coating with metallic addititive (you can use two different color mixes of metallic epoxy if desired, but working times need to be paid attention to), and then a urethane topcoat. The metallic layer is swirled around with a squeegee or other tools, and denatured alcohol can be sprayed on it while wet to make it swirl and dance around to your liking. Spiked shoes are a must for a metallic installation.

Please note that outcomes of metallic epoxy are very technique-dependent, and are not super forgiving cosmetically like standard epoxy or fleck coating systems. We carry metallic systems and can put a package together for you. Helpful to watch some online videos first before tackling a metallic installation.

Thanks!
 
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^^ Good stuff guys... Thank you!

I need to get some quotes from contractors. If it's outrageous, I'll contact one of you and go the DIY route.

I've watched the videos. I'm sure I could do it. Bubbles concern me.
 

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I moderate a Mustang forum and they are waiting to find out what it is as well. I'll post a pic or video when it's in my possession.

As for the floor, based on the responses, sounds like grinding is in order. I'm not sure if I'll tackle the project myself or pay to have it done. It will depend on quotes I receive.

As for the actual floor covering... To get the multi-colored blue look I am assuming it requires metallic epoxy with a gloss top coat - polyurea?

My money is on "not a 4 eye " car.

I believe all the resident experts have chimed in and gave you so very good advice.
 

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Nice collection, i've owned about twenty mustangs over the last 28 years, the bulk of them being fox bodies. I recently picked up the 86' GT that you see in my avatar. I also have a 2013 Shelby...that would be my 3 year old daughter lol.
 
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Nice collection, i've owned about twenty mustangs over the last 28 years, the bulk of them being fox bodies. I recently picked up the 86' GT that you see in my avatar. I also have a 2013 Shelby...that would be my 3 year old daughter lol.

Nice 86! That's funny about your "Shelby!" My 2011 has the Ford Rafing 2.9 Whipple package pumping out 750 hp. It's a hoot!

With that collection, my money is on a 93 Cobra R or 00 Cobra R. :thumbup:

The unknown new arrival is on a truck heading my way. Hopefully it will be delivered tomorrow. I'll post a pic or video in this thread.
 
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Just got my first quote for having someone do the floor like the pic below. The floor area is 39'x39' and his quote included grinding the slab, black primer, 2-metallic colors and a clear top coat for a total of $7k. He said he would use chemicals, rollers and an electric leaf blower to create the effects.

He also showed me pics of metallic floors he has done and they looked fantastic.

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That blue floor looks fantastic but I would imagine it would shows scratches very easily. Great for a garage where you are simply parking your cars but I'm not sure how well it would handle with real use.
 
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New car arrived tonight. This is the "reveal video" I did for the Mustang forum I moderate:

 

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I knew it!!!! :)

Congrats Goose, beautiful addition to the Mustang family! All that's missing (in my books) to complete this stunning collection is a 67/68 Fastback.
 
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Hi everyone, It is nice floor or i always like floor which may be 3d designing or blue color.The reason is that i am new here but i have more floor designs you can easily visit our site or watch it.I am new here can i join all of you?
 
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