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What Vacuum for garage?

rcleaver

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I'm thinking about ditching my gigantic wet/dry vac. It has a short hose and is very loud and hard to move around. I am considering taking our built in vac (which we don't use) and putting it in the garage. I know it won't do liquids but I think I can vent outside which should reduce the noise. I'll have to buy a long hose for it.

I agree. Those vacs are a PITA to move around. Much better to have a wall mounted one with a LOOOOONG hose,
 
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My wife gave me one of the Craftsman units for Christmas. I mounted it to the garage wall Christmas afternoon and though I haven't used it much yet, outside of testing it a bit, I think it will be just fine for everyday use.
 

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I have the Shop-Vac brand wall mount. I like it alot , but it is quite loud when the garage door is closed.
Josh

I also have the wall mount Shop-vac (blue/gray) and would not recommend. It does the job, but the suction is weak. I wish I would have spent a few more $$ for better quality!
 

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Home Depot used to carry a Rigid Wall mount Vac (I think its called sto and go)...It is awsome, but they dont have it anymore...you may still find it online...it was $99 at HD...

The sears wall vac has the same amount of power for the same price...id give that a try if you cant get the rigid./.
 

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VacMaster vs. Craftsmas wall mounts

Okay, got to set it up and try it out yesterday. My comparisons are based on the VacMaster vs. the Craftsman. I also have a shop vac (smaller, 3 hp model) as a reference.

The VacMaster came nicely packaged with 4 accessories, 2 pc. wand and two sections of hose-one regular and one slinky / contracting type. Set-up / mounting was easy and took all of ten minutes. Construction quality seems on par, if not better than the Craftsman. The plastic isn't that super hard / scared you're going to break it type - it's got some flex to it. So may products anymore seem like no thought or design went into them - this one doesn't. Little things like the on-board storage, handle design, cord wrap, etc. Just like the mounting bracket - one vertical line of 3 screws vs. a side by side arrangement means you can mount it to just one stud.

The switch on the unit has 3 settings - on / off / remote. When trying it out, I found it hard to remember that I had a remote-kept walking back to the unit. The good news is that it will reach all of my 500 sq. ft. shop with no problem.

Hoses are interesting. As I said, one is 'standard', and one is a stretch kind. Not sure how much it stretches, but it seems to have about the right amount of tension - not too much, not too little. The only issue I can see with it is if it was stretched and you set it down, it would retract and scoot across the floor. Also, each hose has one locking end only-the other ends are friction fit. They seem to hold well though - even with the cord stretched.

The size difference between the VacMaster and the Craftsman is huge-the VacMaster is much smaller and compact. I think a lot of it has to do with the bottom tray on the Craftsman, but overall, the VacMaster is a lot more compact.

The VacMaster does follow one of my pet peeves with the Craftsman- the hose jutting out from the front of the unit. You can kind of solve that problem on the VacMaster by using the accordion hose at the unit. It's more flexible and doesn't stick out as far as the solid hose.

The VacMaster is much quieter than the Caftsman, or even my small ShopVac. More along the lines of a standard floor vaccum vs. a wet-dry vac. Just a guess, but I would say 60% or so of the noise of the Craftsman.

As far as what really matters, performance, I didn't have a lot to clean, but it seems to do fine. At least as good as the Craftsman. I'll have to make a mess and give it a good test. It was able to **** up a small screw even through the brush-which gives up a ton of suction.

Overall, so far, I prefer the VacMaster. Seems better thought out and designed and all of the little things add up to make it easier to use. I think the remote will be nice-once I remember to use it. If both units were the same price, I would definitely get the VacMaster-I might even give it a premium of $50 or so over the Craftsman.

I think the rock test is a good indication on power if you get a chance to try. Unfortunately, I can't find a vacmaster distributor here in canada.
 

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Finally came in the mail today, will have to wait til the weekend to install it :sad:

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I returned the Craftsman I got for Christmas. This one is much smaller.
 

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Seeing as how my rigid shop vac has seen better days, I had been looking for a wall mount vac to use for general garage clean up and car clean up (2 young kids!). The rigid still works but it is typically used for home renovation projects so is covered in drywall dust and the accessories have a fair share of permanent funkiness that I don't want near cars or other things that I want "clean".

I had been eyeing the Hoover GUV wall mount until I saw this thread (thank to the OP for starting it and thanks to fourfeathers and Jason B for posting the links).

I got it just after Christmas from Costco and as kartracer mentioned, mounting was stupid easy. The remote is a very nice feature - that combined with the fact that it makes my rigid sound VERY loud makes it easier to get the cars and garage cleaned when the kids are around. You can actually carry on a conversation with the Vacmaster running but the remote switch lets you switch on and off while your crammed underneath a front seat or in a trunk. Also, the remote is wireless so don't necessarily have have the nozzle with the remote installed on the hose. However, it means you have to have that nozzle with you to to use it - its a little bulky to tote around in a pocket or spare hand but not too cumbersome.

Suction seams up to par with the rigid but at much reduced dB. With the rigid, hearing protection is required for anything other than a very short clean up job.

The Vacmaster is also quickly removable from the wall mount and has a generous extension cord to allow you to reach in nooks that the hose and hose extension won't reach.

I see a few items for improvement:
- I'd have liked a floor brush (but I can buy that separate)
- when detached from the wall mount, it a bit cumbersome to carry around. As annoying as wheeled shop vacs can be, sometimes you want the wheels.
- the extension hose is a bit ungainly on the built in hose holder. Putting both hoses on there is a bit precarious

Overall, I'm very happy with it and would definitely recommend it - especially given its price point.
 

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gesoffen,
Did you attach the 'slinky' hose to the unit or the wand? For my purpose, it worked better attached to the unit and made the hose easier to corral since it's more flexible.

It was funny this weekend. I had to clean out the warehouse (2000 sq. ft.), and it hadn't been cleaned for probably at least 10 years. It's a 100 year old brick / wood building, 2nd floor, so it was just dirty as anything. I didn't want to use my 'good' shop vac - I took my old Craftsman up there to clean it. :) Can't risk getting the VacMaster that dirty so early...
 

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gesoffen,
Did you attach the 'slinky' hose to the unit or the wand? For my purpose, it worked better attached to the unit and made the hose easier to corral since it's more flexible.

Yup - the slinky hose is more manageble for routine tasks. However, the more rigid extention hose is a PITA to store on the vac mount. Mine is mounted next to the garage door so when it slips out, it usually gets in the path of the garage door. I'll probably put a separate hook in the wall to coral the hose - it'll also make the accessories more accessible.

Already lectured the wife on keeping the "good" vac clean! :lol_hitti
 

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Yup - the slinky hose is more manageble for routine tasks. However, the more rigid extention hose is a PITA to store on the vac mount. Mine is mounted next to the garage door so when it slips out, it usually gets in the path of the garage door. I'll probably put a separate hook in the wall to coral the hose - it'll also make the accessories more accessible.

Already lectured the wife on keeping the "good" vac clean! :lol_hitti

Yeah, I don't understand why they make the hose come out right in the front - makes it a PITA to coil. Since it's basically just a hole in the canister, it shouldn't matter where it goes. That being said, compared to the Craftsman, the VacMaster is much better becasue you can use the slinky hose right off the machine. A swivel or something would help soooo much. The Craftsman hose is much stiffer and juts out about 18". It's impossible to coil without going 'inside out' on it (hard to explain, but you have to loop it through itself).
 

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Yep...looks like I am going to have to pull the trigger on a Vacmaster. Or, maybe the Bissell...I like some of it's features too.

I really like my Ridgid "box" vac. Forced me to actually put it away as all the attachments fit inside. Of course, that also meant that I did not use it as often as I could have as I HAD to put it away.

When the guys ground the floor in my garage, they asked to use a shopvac and I didn't want to do it....but lent it to them. It got hammered picking up the cement dust. Maybe I'm a bit too retentive...but I'm thinking of regulating this one to "real" shopvac jobs and getting a nice wall mount for car use.
 

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I just picked up the Bissell Garage Pro this past weekend from my local Costco. I absolutely love it. Here are the pros and cons as viewed by me:

Pros:
Quiet for such a powerful vac
32' of hose. Extremely important for a 3 car garage.
Tons of attachments for floors, car detailing, etc
Blower option(must remove hose from inlet to outlet)
Sturdy wall mount

Cons:
Hose comes straight out from the unit(could be a problem for some)
Rather large
No remote switch(good and bad...personal preference)
Hose diameter may be too small for some

PM me if you need more info or have any questions.

Severum
 

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Another Bissel here,
Concure with Severum's assessments.
I like mine.
The vac can a struggle a litle with pea sized stones with the 32 foot hose, so you need to "go after them" sometimes, but all in all, pretty good for my application.
The long black tube hanging next to the attachments bag in the photo is handy for large floor areas with the floor brush tool. The floor brush tool has two settings, one for carpet and one for a smooth floor.

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E46M3
 

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Goodmorning. Our Electrolux Garage Vac has 140" water lift and is under 70 decibels from the 550 air watt power unit. Plus a 5 year limited-lifetime warranty.

Happy New Year.

140" of lift?? I highly doubt it. You need to use a manometer and measure suction at the end of the working hose. See http://www.ultimategarage.com/shopvacs.html for some independent testing of shop vacuums.

I prefer portable vacuums for use in the garage. The wall hung units are ok if you're going to be working in one spot all the time but using excessively long hoses increases static pressure and ultimately decreases suction at the end of the working hose. In addition, storing long hoses can be difficult....they are often just hung on the wall. SD
 
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140" of lift?? I highly doubt it. You need to use a manometer and measure suction at the end of the working hose. See http://www.ultimategarage.com/shopvacs.html for some independent testing of shop vacuums.

I wondered about that too. 140" is more than most extractors I've seen and would probably **** the carpet right out of the car. :)

My Vacmaster (rated at 88" of lift) will pick up a 3' x 5' entry mat with no problem using the floor nozzle.
 

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140" of lift?? I highly doubt it. You need to use a manometer and measure suction at the end of the working hose. See http://www.ultimategarage.com/shopvacs.html for some independent testing of shop vacuums.

Figure came right from the manufacturer who is highly respected world wide to say the least. Industry leader in whole-home central vacs that need to operate at full performance levels with long hoses 100% of the time. I will defer to their published data based on their history in the industry (since 1910) and extensivce R&D capabilities any day of the week and will stand behind their data.

A forum member has taken advantage of a special deal and purchased one for his garage. He will hopefully write a review and post on this thread.

If anyone else would like to take advantage of this deal, I will extend it for another 30 days for forum members....$275 with free shipping. (reg. price is $299 plus approx. $20 shipping)
 

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Figure came right from the manufacturer who is highly respected world wide to say the least. Industry leader in whole-home central vacs that need to operate at full performance levels with long hoses 100% of the time. I will defer to their published data based on their history in the industry (since 1910) and extensivce R&D capabilities any day of the week and will stand behind their data.

A forum member has taken advantage of a special deal and purchased one for his garage. He will hopefully write a review and post on this thread.

If anyone else would like to take advantage of this deal, I will extend it for another 30 days for forum members....$275 with free shipping. (reg. price is $299 plus approx. $20 shipping)

Most manufacturers publish claims that should be qualified. I would believe 140 cfm of air flow but not 140" of water lift....especially not from a machine costing $299.
If there's anyone in North Jersey with one of these, I'd love to come over and do some perfomance testing. SD
 
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So I finally got my VacMaster installed. A few observations:

1. It is nice and quiet (except as noted below.)
2. Figuring out where to mount it made me painfully aware of my severe lack of outlets and circuits (everything in the garage is on one circuit and basically only one outlet on one wall.)
3. When using only the short, springy hose with the remote control head, it hits some resonant frequency at the opening and makes an earsplitting screech that is unbearable. Anybody else have this? It doesn't happen with just the long hose or the two hoses hooked together.
4. The "car" attachment (wide and flat) is male and doesn't appear to work with either hose or the remote control head in any configuration. All the other attachments are female. Am I being dumb here? I couldn't find anything that explained this in the manual.
5. Getting my old rolling noisemaker off the floor at my feet under the workbench is nice. With a small 20x20 anything I can get off the floor is a victory.


Anyone else with the VacMaster experience similar things?
 
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Pete,
As far as the resonance, I tried it a bunch of different ways today and didn't get a thing. Kinda weird.

The wide flat nozzle, I'll assume, is for water extraction. Mine fits inside the slinky hose if you don't use the remote nozzle. I'm assuming (again) that they figure you want to keep the remote dry and shouldn't be using it for water extraction. I didn't try it in the other hose. The reason it goes inside the hose (vs. outside like the other attachments)is so that the water doesn't leak out like you get sometimes with a male attachment.
 

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How hard is it to remove the Vacmaster from the wall to use in other parts of the house?
 

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How hard is it to remove the Vacmaster from the wall to use in other parts of the house?

Push in a tab at the back and pull up. If it takes you over 3 seconds, you shouldn't be operating a shop-vac. :)

Has a nice big handle for carrying as well.
 

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Well I wanted to get a vacmaster but costco was just to far out of the way. I just picked up the craftsman wall mount (sears just one exit up). It works well for cleaning all of the snack crumbs and dirt from my son out of the truck and boat. The only draw back like mentioned before is no on/off switch at the end of the hose, but hey thats what kids are for.
 

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I posted this in another thread, but I'll do it again here. Mine was from Lowes. Not even sure of the brand. It works pretty good and was cheap. Under $150 as I refuse to spend too much money on stuff that I rarely use. It was blue, but of course, has been modified!

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I will be using this as the hose reel once I find two Porsche rotors to use for the air hoses.

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How hard is it to remove the Vacmaster from the wall to use in other parts of the house?

I guess I should clarify, is the base designed well enough to use in other parts of the house, or will it flop over like some of the other units that look to have a small footprint?

Is it worth getting a Costco membership to purchase it?

Kapn
 

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I guess I should clarify, is the base designed well enough to use in other parts of the house, or will it flop over like some of the other units that look to have a small footprint?

Is it worth getting a Costco membership to purchase it?

Kapn

Yes, it will flop over if you pull on the hose. But with a 21 foot reach, you can probably do about any room in your house without moving it. I've actually thought about getting a 5-gallon bucket with casters on it to set it in for when I do need to move it around (like cleaning the warehouse).

Costco is worth it even if you're not going to buy the vac. :)
 

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Most manufacturers publish claims that should be qualified. I would believe 140 cfm of air flow but not 140" of water lift....especially not from a machine costing $299.
If there's anyone in North Jersey with one of these, I'd love to come over and do some perfomance testing. SD

I am the guy who bought the unit and the specs are listed below:

Air Watts - 550
Rec. Max Sq. Ft. - 3,500
Motor Size - 5.7
Suction Power (water lift) - 138”
Airflow (cfm) - 122
Maximum Amps - 14.3
Voltage - 120
Dirt Receptacle Capacity - 4 gal
Venting Option - Yes
Built-In Utility Inlet - Yes

I am not in New Jersey, but if you ever make it to central Ohio bring your testing gear :D

One thing to keep in mind is that this system is not a wet vac. It is nothing more than a central vac system that is packaged with accessories used in a garage for cleaning the floor and detailing the car. Since it is a central vac, it can be plumbed with 2" PVC and wall plates throughout different areas of my home/garage. I am undecided at this point whether that will ever happen, but I like having that as an option.

I went with this unit because my "garage" space is 1650sf + an additional 480sf in the loft. I want to be able to effectively clean the entire space with one centrally located unit that can be plumbed in. This unit has the ability to service a 3,500sf home, so I should not have any problems.

I intend to do a write-up on this unit once it is up and running, so keep an eye out for that thread once it's started.

-Wardster
 

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I'm thinking about ditching my gigantic wet/dry vac. It has a short hose and is very loud and hard to move around. I am considering taking our built in vac (which we don't use) and putting it in the garage. I know it won't do liquids but I think I can vent outside which should reduce the noise. I'll have to buy a long hose for it.

Amen. I hate mine. It is always in the way as well as the complaints that you list. I don't need one with capacity that large anyway. I need a vacuum for my sand blaster as well. I was thinking of wall mounting something that I can use for both (until I can afford something better for the sand blaster).

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So I finally got my VacMaster installed. A few observations:

1. It is nice and quiet (except as noted below.)
2. Figuring out where to mount it made me painfully aware of my severe lack of outlets and circuits (everything in the garage is on one circuit and basically only one outlet on one wall.)
3. When using only the short, springy hose with the remote control head, it hits some resonant frequency at the opening and makes an earsplitting screech that is unbearable. Anybody else have this? It doesn't happen with just the long hose or the two hoses hooked together.
4. The "car" attachment (wide and flat) is male and doesn't appear to work with either hose or the remote control head in any configuration. All the other attachments are female. Am I being dumb here? I couldn't find anything that explained this in the manual.
5. Getting my old rolling noisemaker off the floor at my feet under the workbench is nice. With a small 20x20 anything I can get off the floor is a victory.


Anyone else with the VacMaster experience similar things?


Anyone end up getting this? Costco also seems to have another one in the store, not this one, but an all black one, not sure the brand?
 

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A heads up on the VacMaster:

I had always just left the switch in the 'remote on' position. Came into work this morning and hear this hum. Open the door to my shop and the vac is running! Not sure how long it was on, but I left at 5pm and this was at 8 am.

Either (a) I have ghosts or (b) something else (radio, garage door opener, etc.) turned it on. Guess I never thought about it, but from now on I'll leave the on / off / remote switch in the off position when I'm not going to be using it.
 

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I picked up the VacMaster at the recommendation of the people on this thread. Thanks kartracer23 for your review, I purchased the sears wall vac and then read your review and returned it. I have to say that I am very pleased with the VacMaster so far.

The two things that convinced me to pull the trigger was the foot print size and noise. For me these were the two most important factors and this vacuum delivers on that. I haven't come across the noise issues that 67pete300 came across.

Vacuum strength is good enough for a garage. Blower function works well too. The wireless shut off on me yesterday for no reason. First time it happened probably RF interference of some sort.
 

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What is the diameter of the hose for the vacmaster? Someone was complaining the bissell is only 1 1/4" but the vacmaster didn't look much bigger. Also the Bissell has a 32 foot hose! That is pretty long so maybe that is why it is smaller diameter?

Neil
 
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