what you will do if?
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Deafautotech
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toolfreak said:
Same with me!!!
Good luck with that. I see them becoming more disrespectful and irresponsible every year.eschoendorff said:
Dealing with the teachers has to be the toughest part of my job, though. They all need to express their individuality...but there is no individuality as far as facilities design goes.
russlaferrera
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Deaf, a quote from a movie Roadhouse, "Be Nice, Walk them to the door, but be nice." A lot of truth in that. "Can I borrow *****?" "I am sorry but i can not lend **** to you." No reason has to be given. That is because none has to be given and the less you say can not be quoted, as you said ....yada yada yada.
It is very hard to have an argument with someone who is nice and is not going to argue back.
It is very hard to have an argument with someone who is nice and is not going to argue back.
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Deafautotech
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russlaferrera said:
i am trying to keep friendship with my techs without argue and get in trouble... i can said no and tech can be upset....
my service manager knew that i have tools to do right job and he will keep me employe after i graduate this may 5 with A.A.S degree and he want me to do online tests on computer to get certifieds.
so i can get more works to do with service advisors handle me more works because i know what i need to do and have right tools.... 
Charles (in GA)
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the dude said:
I agree, Twice is enough (or should I say, twice in a year or two). I work in an airline maintenance shop. Everyone has something really odd or something that works perfectly for some unusual job, and they don't mind loaning it out, but with the rotating off days and such, you cannot depend on "joe" to be there to borrow the tool from. If some job comes up that we are needing some unusual wrench or adapter for I many times will just buy it. Yes, we have a really good tool room but even they don't have everything.
The shop manager should speak up and tell everyone, that they should have the tools they need for the jobs they do on a regular basis, period. Since he won't, it sounds like you are going to have to get hardnosed about it. Start by posting a big sign on your tool box. "Borrow once, thats fine, Borrow twice, start shopping, Borrow a third time..... NEVER!!!!"
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Deafautotech
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i have craftsman tool label about dont borrow my tools. i will look it on label and post it and see if anyone like that label??
One day, I see a person unknown to me (PU) rifling through my toolbox drawers.
I said, "Can I help you find something?"
PU says, "I need a pair of vice-grips to (do something irrelevant)".
I said "That is my toolbox, and those are my tools. I don't appreciate you helping yourself to them."
PU said, "Bob (the shop owner) said I could find some out here somewhere, so it's no problem."
I said, "People have died for less." (I really did say that!).
PU looked at me for a second, then moved away from my box.
The boss later apologized, and stated he assumed the PU would rifle through the shop **** and not assault the techs' boxes.
I said, "Can I help you find something?"
PU says, "I need a pair of vice-grips to (do something irrelevant)".
I said "That is my toolbox, and those are my tools. I don't appreciate you helping yourself to them."
PU said, "Bob (the shop owner) said I could find some out here somewhere, so it's no problem."
I said, "People have died for less." (I really did say that!).
PU looked at me for a second, then moved away from my box.
The boss later apologized, and stated he assumed the PU would rifle through the shop **** and not assault the techs' boxes.
OctaneMotorsports
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Also same with me, hahaha.Deafautotech said:Same with me!!!
The difference is I'm fifteen years old.
I have more and better tools than everybody else combined, and they are all over 20.
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OctaneMotorsports said:Also same with me, hahaha.
The difference is I'm fifteen years old.
I have more and better tools than everybody else combined, and they are all over 20.
well i am 20 years old and only being in automotive industry since Fall 2003 to present. two friend of mine are in automotive industry for lone tech doing for 10 years and other tech doing for like 5 or 7 years. but next door (mercury and lincoln) have three techs still work there for over 20 years. problem is one tech have their speciality way like driveability, other in transmission and engine repair and other tech who do all works....
There were 35+ techs at the Ford dealer I was at, and only 1 guy had an air powered rivet gun. I worked there for 3 months, borrowed it like 4 times. But I always felt bad because he was the only guy that had one, so people were borrowing it all the time. He was a cool guy though, and just used to bust everyones chops to get their own. Him and I were pretty good though, he was the main one that really talked me out of being a tech for the rest of my life, so I don't think he really cared when I borrowed it.
When I started off, I had to borrow tools ALL the time. But that was working at a Porsche place with 4 techs. The boss hired me knowing I had minimal experience, minimal tools, and told me to just use his. The stuff I used the most, was the stuff I bought first. Like an extra 13 mm wrench, extra 13 mm socket, etc. In a small shop situation like that, no one cared when you borrowed each others tools, as none of us wanted to have that 27 mm skinny wrench that we used once a month.
But, I started the "If I borrow it more then twice a week, I'll buy one" rule for myself. Not because I didn't want to borrow it, I just figured if I needed it that much, it was probably a good thing to own. I've got some special tools now that I never use, but maybe one day I'll be glad I had it.
Oh, and I still don't have the air powered rivet gun. I'm waiting for a project that I know I'll be putting a ton of rivets in, like a race car with sheet metal door panels.
When I started off, I had to borrow tools ALL the time. But that was working at a Porsche place with 4 techs. The boss hired me knowing I had minimal experience, minimal tools, and told me to just use his. The stuff I used the most, was the stuff I bought first. Like an extra 13 mm wrench, extra 13 mm socket, etc. In a small shop situation like that, no one cared when you borrowed each others tools, as none of us wanted to have that 27 mm skinny wrench that we used once a month.
But, I started the "If I borrow it more then twice a week, I'll buy one" rule for myself. Not because I didn't want to borrow it, I just figured if I needed it that much, it was probably a good thing to own. I've got some special tools now that I never use, but maybe one day I'll be glad I had it.
Oh, and I still don't have the air powered rivet gun. I'm waiting for a project that I know I'll be putting a ton of rivets in, like a race car with sheet metal door panels.
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Deafautotech
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iiibdsiil said:There were 35+ techs at the Ford dealer I was at,
are ford dealership bigger service shop where you were work at?
my dealership have two different dealership service shop as Chrysler/Jeep and Mercury/Lincoln. i am work in Chrysler/Jeep and only three techs (include myself) and next door have three techs work in Mercury and Lincoln. my work have only one service manager... but he is good service manager and deal the problems when customers complaints about something....
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So how are you going to handle the tool loaning tomorrow?
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Canadian Charlie said:So how are you going to handle the tool loaning tomorrow? [/QUOTE
well it will be diffcult for my work because my service manager had me to work on Jeep grand cherokee to put cylinder head and camshaft in engine again (it is 4.oL inline six engine) with front grill and bumper removed. i will come to my work very early on monday morning and start to finish it before than be late....
It can be difficult to turn around this situation without causing hard feelings. It might be a good idea to talk to your manager about it, and how you feel about it.
It is customary in the business for techs to be required to supply their own hand tools. If the other techs don't have the tools they need to do their jobs, perhaps the management should know about it.
I know it's tough, as I have been in that situation myself.
It is customary in the business for techs to be required to supply their own hand tools. If the other techs don't have the tools they need to do their jobs, perhaps the management should know about it.
I know it's tough, as I have been in that situation myself.