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xin

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For some silly reason I was under the impression that brake cleaner was relativity safe. I normally buy the chlorinated stuff.... I knew about phosgene, but I thought it was the non-chlorinated stuff that was the brake cleaner that could break down into phosgene if exposed to flame (sparks?). I normally get the stuff on my hands when I use it.... I think I'll be more careful now.

Carb cleaner is the one that I normally avoid using much, or getting on me.

Been using 'contact cleaner' same thing for many years - PJ1, Yamaha/Kawasaki brand ect... It is safe, I think there is a sky is falling someone reads a label and panics. They have to put them labels on there as people will file lawsuits on about anything nowadays.

If someone was really concerned about chemicals, the pesticides in foods is WAY worse and it is consumed daily.
 
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It is what dry cleaners use or did use.
Tetrachloroethylene is the good stuff. Works like magic. Used to hear stories of people working at industrial type places that had that stuff in 55 gal drums back in the 1980's and they would wash their hands with it! Said it worked great.

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Anyone else ever work with a vapor degreaser? We had one in one shop where I worked. It's a big tank with steam coils in the bottom. It used trichloroethylene. The coils vaporized the solvent, and a cold water jacket around the top edge kept the vapor inside the tank. We would hang parts from an overhead hoist in the tank and the vapors would condense on the cold parts, then run off along with the dirt and grease. There was also a pressure wand to spray solvent if needed. I used it a lot on engine blocks and heads.



Yup, been there. First time I used it the fumes almost literally knocked me onto my ***. The older guys thought that was pretty funny. I was very not amused that no one warned me.

Of course this was the same shop where I witnessed a guy neutralizing the sulfuric acid bath (200 gal tank) by balancing a 30 gal drum of concentrated sodium hydroxide on the lip and dumping some in a little at a time. Of course he was well protected by his mid forearm length gloves, safety glasses (not goggles), tee shirt and jeans!

Every time it would start to boil over he would yell “YEEEE HAAAAAW.” I swear to you, I am not making this up.

I was a recent college drop out that had been in a chemistry program for a time. “Always add acid!” I thought to myself as I walked to the other side of the shop knowing full well what would happen if that drum fell in the tank.

Then there was the Strippit press operator that told me he used to have my job but hated it because of the sores he’d get on his arms and hands. He was talking about the chromating baths we had. Most of the world had stopped using hexavalent chromium a long time ago. This place had government contracts that still required its use.

He was being poisoned and didn’t even know it. I knew what the stuff was and took ample precautions when using it.

It was an interesting place to work.
 
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If you have any cuts on your hands you will know it. Brake cleaner is great for letting you know they are there.
 

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Great story MrT, ...you were one of them ‘pointy-headed collidge boys’...i used to clean the wing de-icing boots on planes with M.E.K. Methyl-Ethyl-Ketone-...without gloves...because I didn’t know better...what was your name again??...


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I always operated with the presumption that the better this stuff worked , the worse it was for you!

I always tried to be extra careful and wear eye protection and some rubber gloves to protect skin.
 
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Anyone else ever work with a vapor degreaser? We had one in one shop where I worked. It's a big tank with steam coils in the bottom. It used trichloroethylene. The coils vaporized the solvent, and a cold water jacket around the top edge kept the vapor inside the tank. We would hang parts from an overhead hoist in the tank and the vapors would condense on the cold parts, then run off along with the dirt and grease. There was also a pressure wand to spray solvent if needed. I used it a lot on engine blocks and heads.

We had one in the early 70s which had ultrasonic agitation in the liquid tank. Submerse until all the big stuff came off, in the vapor for visual inspection, then pull to "instantly" dry. Impressive.

Plant engineer raced Alfa Romeo sports cars, and had a drum of solvent (I don't remember what it was) which he'd put in it on some weekends to clean his engines. It was my first exposure to ultrasonics and watching a "clean" block have clouds of black stuff pour off when the transducers were turned on.

I don't remember what, if any, filtration was used.
 

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We had one in the early 70s which had ultrasonic agitation in the liquid tank. Submerse until all the big stuff came off, in the vapor for visual inspection, then pull to "instantly" dry. Impressive.

Plant engineer raced Alfa Romeo sports cars, and had a drum of solvent (I don't remember what it was) which he'd put in it on some weekends to clean his engines. It was my first exposure to ultrasonics and watching a "clean" block have clouds of black stuff pour off when the transducers were turned on.

I don't remember what, if any, filtration was used.

We had two drums next to the vapor degreaser. The first was full of methylene chloride, and we'd drop the hot blocks and heads in it, watching it bubble, then they went into the second drum which was mineral spirits that killed the meth and its fumes. They were pretty clean after that.
 

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Chlorinated is the way to go.

That non-chlorinated is about as useful as a flat tire. Been using this since I was Motocross racing (call it contact-cleaner).

Lastly, due to the nanny state we live in today everything has a label stating it is the end of the world. I would be more worried about BREATHING in a WHARF FREIGHT - who knows what is in that stuff!

Eh, it just depends. For removing permanent marker or layout fluid non-chlorinated is way better. Clearly, the acetone aspect makes sense here.

Not all chlorinated is created equal, either. The CRC Brakleen sprays best, nice strong, straight spray for taking out wasps. I've always wondered why every other chlorinated on the market sprays in a mist or a dribble.

Don't even bother w the "50 state" garbage. It's pathetic. Turns to a mist and evaporates before it even hits your work. And if you can get it to the work, it doesn't do anything.
 

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91314 chlorinated from Napa, to take out wasps:
edit: I believe the 05089 is the non-Napa-badged variety available everywhere else

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Incidentally my Napa is 2/$6 right now for any variety of Brakleen (thus CRC as that's how they spell theirs)
 
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xin

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Eh, it just depends. For removing permanent marker or layout fluid non-chlorinated is way better. Clearly, the acetone aspect makes sense here.

Not all chlorinated is created equal, either. The CRC Brakleen sprays best, nice strong, straight spray for taking out wasps. I've always wondered why every other chlorinated on the market sprays in a mist or a dribble.

Don't even bother w the "50 state" garbage. It's pathetic. Turns to a mist and evaporates before it even hits your work. And if you can get it to the work, it doesn't do anything.


I prefer the CRC Chlorinated myself, as you stated works great.
 

xin

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91314 chlorinated from Napa, to take out wasps:
edit: I believe the 05089 is the non-Napa-badged variety available everywhere else

attachment.php


Incidentally my Napa is 2/$6 right now for any variety of Brakleen (thus CRC as that's how they spell theirs)


I have used it for that as well, and those recluse spiders that like to hide in places as well.
 

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^ about the only thing I can hit carpenter bees with .
any wasp spray they just move out of the spray zone
until its gone,then hover back where the were.
 
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