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Dave455

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Here in the U.K. Phillips screws were abandoned in favour of Pozidriv over 45 years ago!

Which leaves us with the opposite problem... everyone refers to any cross head recess as a "Pozidriv". If it turns out to be a Phillips (generally only found on Japanese stuff and aircraft) then there's an even chance it will have been butchered by someone attempting to remove it with a Pozidriv screwdriver and a big hammer!

Learning the difference between these two is just one of life's essentials!
 

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Here in the U.K. Phillips screws were abandoned in favour of Pozidriv over 45 years ago!

Which leaves us with the opposite problem... everyone refers to any cross head recess as a "Pozidriv". If it turns out to be a Phillips (generally only found on Japanese stuff and aircraft) then there's an even chance it will have been butchered by someone attempting to remove it with a Pozidriv screwdriver and a big hammer!

Learning the difference between these two is just one of life's essentials!
Japanese stuff is JIS, not Phillips...
 

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Here in the U.K. Phillips screws were abandoned in favour of Pozidriv over 45 years ago!

Learning the difference between these two is just one of life's essentials!

^^ I remember my little brother, who came to "proper" tool use much earlier in his youth than I, being horrified when I approached a philips screw with a pozi driver.

Then there is the additional problem that everyone I know just calls them "star," as in "pass me a star screwdriver there." :headscrat
 
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This is a bit anaroky, but I remember going to see the Fiona Banner exhibition Harrier and Jaguar at Tate Britain a few years back. As you might expect from a show that had the Daily Mail blustering the usual "is this art?" nonsense, this was very, very good - but one of the things that took too much of my attention was something like Torq-Set screws everywhere across the planes... it took a while for me to realise that they were meant to look like that - at first I thought they were regular philips screws that had all been way over-torqued and chewed up!

Torq-Set screws:


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Harrier and Jaguar (minor hijack, apologies :)

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Japanese stuff is JIS, not Phillips...

Well, to be fair it's 'JIS Phillips', which as far as I can work out was just enough variation to avoid paying royalties!

There's far less variation between JIS and Phillips than there is between Phillips and Pozidriv, and unlike the latter scenario, you can get drivers that fit both!

Current japanese stuff seems to use regular Phillips.

An I'll educated gorilla will still use a Pozidriv and a hammer on either!
 
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