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Junkman

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What about cardboard boxes? I have a lot of these, and they take up a lot of space. I have a bunch of car parts I am slowly selling, and I have saved all these boxes for shipping. In the past, I have gotten rid of boxes and then been stuck with a bulky or oddly shaped part and no good box to ship it in.

Anyone have that problem solved?

I bought something from a person that was moving that I found on Craigslist, and she mentioned that she needed some packing boxes. I had a garage full, since I had been saving them from work. I filled my trailer with boxes for her, and she gave me $100 off of the item that I was purchasing. Freed up a lot of space that I could use.

I collect quality junk. That means I save/buy bulk items on sale/clearance. I just picked up 2 gal. on tar, for $.50, 2 gal of PVC cement $1.00. The list goes on and on. Yes great prices . But I am not a plumber . What am I going to do with 2 gallons of PVC cement? Tar?

If you get a good deal on some feathers, then we can have a tar & feather party...... :lol_hitti
 
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JebNY

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Well I thought I had found a place of like spirits but what's with this throwing perfectly good stuff out because you haven't needed it in a year ****. Yea real **** should be thrown out but if you are hanging out on this forum you must fix and build things. You need raw materials to do that and you don't know what you need till you need it.

I limit how much space I am willing to use for stuff without a current purpose, but it may stay on the shelf for a long time, till I need the space for something better or use it.

My Dad was a first class pack rat and I will still need to clean out his place someday and I decided I would not let it get that bad and it hasn't. He did have an approach that worked well for a long time, he would load up a trailer or so of the worst of his stuff and throw or give it away each year so he had room for what he would drag home the next year. That way his stuff was always improving. That worked well till he skipped a few years and then stopped completely as he got old.

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My sister-in-law must have at least 30 years of National Geographic magazines stacked in the garage taking up space because she might use them for "something". By the time she finds a use, the mice, bugs and the Georgia humidity will have ruined them, if they haven't done so already. Heck the Salvation Army and Goodwill won't even take encyclopedias anymore. Stuff like this I give to the church so the Sunday school kids can cut out the pictures.

FYI, the full-page car ads out of old issues of NG can bring in a bit of money on that auction site or by selling them to automobile literature dealers.

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FYI, the full-page car ads out of old issues of NG can bring in a bit of money on that auction site or by selling them to automobile literature dealers.

dan

I am glad that you mentioned this, as I was just about to throw out a stack of 60's NGs!
 

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The problem I have,it seems that when I clean out and throw out stuff I buy 2 things to replace it. It never ends!
 

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I need help in this area. I have a decent amount of space, but still feel cluttered because I think I just keep too much stuff. This applies to my basement and my two barns. Old books that I think I might look at again one day, molding cut-offs from the rooms I have remodeled, old lumber that might get used some day, all kinds of knick knacks. How the heck do you guys decide to toss something? I always get caught up in the train of thought that makes me ask "what if I need this some day?" It's a problem, and I'd like to simplify things if I could!

Thanks for any wisdom. :)

If you can't use it right now, and if you can't sell it on Craigslist or Ebay - then its time for the trash, but I would try freecycle first. If even you can't get rid of it for free on freecycle, then you are a hoarder :)
 

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I had a bunch of leftover crown moulding, door trim, baseboads and oak hardwood flooring from my home remodel. It was all good and too nice to throw away. I kept on moving around my garage but it became silly to keep it all. I kept a few pieces for reference or patching and placed a couple of ads on craigslist. I sold it all for a couple of hundred bucks. If I had to haul it to the dump, they would have charged me $50 or so.

Getting rid of it and making money was the best thing to do.
 

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I've been staying with my parents, since my father was in the hospital for six weeks. He is out now, but just trying to find something in his shop has been a chore. While some people believe you can never have too many tools, I disagree. When your falling over chit, and can't find stuff, time to clean out. When you decided it was wise to buy cheaper (JUNK) tools, so you could keep one in multiple locations, time to clean it out.

If you have had software that you hope to play with (that is no longer supported by anything, OS2), time to clean it out.

He has got me so po'd, that I look forward to getting home and cleaning things out.
 

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After watching my dad while growing up save pieces of pipe, wood, this and that because "someday".....I get rid of the stuff I don't need. I seriously doubt I am going to use that 3' piece of 2x4 or that 14" piece of 3/8" pipe, or all of the old copper connectors that still have solder on them. I know I am not going to use the 2' and 3' pieces of siding that was left over from siding the garage. I doubt I'll ever use the half sheet of 1/2" plywood that has been in the shed delaminating for the last 9 years. So I made up my mind that when I am done with a project, if there is something I think someone can use, I am the type to give it to them. If it is a burnable item, well I have a fairly large burn pile to stand around and drink a couple of cold ones. If it is an item that I think someone can use, that I won't use in the next year, and I can make some change off of it, then it goes into a garage sale. I always saved Hotrod , Truckin, etc magazines. I literally had hundreds of magazines from years past. If you grab anyone you can remember reading the article. But you hate to toss them because they look like new, and they do cost quite a bit per magazine. If you have a hundred magazines from the store you are looking at $500-600 so they don't get tossed, but they take up a heck of a lot of room. People DO NOT buy magazines at a garage sale. I tried twice. So for anyone that wanted them, grab a handful. You looked at the magazines like you were interested....you don't get out of this garage without at least a dozen. LOL!!! So I don't save anymore. It's either burn it, give it away to friends, or sell it to someone that can use it. When I need something, I will buy just about what I need so I am not taking up needed space. Needed space you ask? If you get rid of everything, why do you need space you ask again? I AM MARRIED!!!!!!!! MY WIFE GETS RID OF NOTHING. She needs MY DAMN SPACE to store HER STUFF :wtf:
 

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If I have not used it or seen it in over a year out it goes. I hate when you go out and buy something that you need and then 2 days later you find the same exact thing you bought once before brand new still in the package under some stuff in the coner.:yikes:
 

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It seems we have all suffered from this at one time or another. I decided a couple years ago that I would rather have a clean and organized shop than a total disaster. Started giving stuff away ( not tools,though) and hauling it off to the dump. I am much happier now with a fairly clean and organized space to work in.

Much, much happier.
 

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it is trash when you dont want it so you put it out for yard sale and nobody wants to buy it from you so you end up putting a FREE sign on it and nobody is willing to take it.
finally just to get rid of it you have to put it in the trash can and hope the the garbage man does not pull it out and leave it on the curb with a nasty note

bob
 
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Ok I have to admit I feel much better now :D. I have been after SWMBO for years to go through her storage yes thats right she has had a storage for years thats full of who knows what that she pays for monthly . I keep telling her she has most likely paid for the entire contents of the storage many times over just in storage fees but she doesnt seem to care .

Rick
 

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a friend at work was just telling me about one her neighbors. apparently her house looks alot like that. the family just did an intervention with her and made her do a yard sale and they filled a dumpster as well. apparently there is still a bunch more.
she tells me that she used to run into this lady shen she would go to yard sales.
hell I told her to bring the lady to my next yard sale, I got a bunch of stuff to clear out

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Wow! Been there may times! But the truth is you will find that the most valuable thing you have is THE SPACE YOUR'E KEEPING IT IN!!!!! Just take a look back, even though we all regret tossing something that we could have ultimately used most of the time it ends up rusted, rotted, dried out, cracked, scratched or otherwise unsuitable for the noble purpose we had in mind. Chucking stuff isn't getting any easier either, out my way, they treat everything like it was nuclear waste and charge you dearly to get rid of it. Clean up! make room for the next project!
 

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FYI, the full-page car ads out of old issues of NG can bring in a bit of money on that auction site or by selling them to automobile literature dealers.

dan

Absolutely true! I hope by quoting this a few people may see this and at least take the car ads out before chucking the mags. I've bought many of these ads at car shows to frame for my shop....just need to frame them now...

I collect quality junk. That means I save/buy bulk items on sale/clearance. I just picked up 2 gal. on tar, for $.50, 2 gal of PVC cement $1.00. The list goes on and on. Yes great prices . But I am not a plumber . What am I going to do with 2 gallons of PVC cement? Tar?

This is too funny!! I got a gallon pail of rat poison for 2bucks once. Used a tablespoon to kill my rodents and havn't needed it since. SO now I have a gallon of dangerous blood-thinning material....maybe I should take a biteveryday and save on aspirin!

I DO have a stack of those buried in the closet at my parents' house. Not sure what to do with them now :headscrat

Once again - pull out the car ads!!!Send them to me! Kidding - I only collect them from the cars I have. But you can sell them or send them to a collector/seller.

It seems we have all suffered from this at one time or another. I decided a couple years ago that I would rather have a clean and organized shop than a total disaster. Started giving stuff away ( not tools,though) and hauling it off to the dump. I am much happier now with a fairly clean and organized space to work in.
Much, much happier.

Absolutely! It's catharctic. You'll work better, feel better, get more done.
I mostly do resto's and try to keep stuff that I need for that resto inside the car itself. Otherwise I have a set of shelves seperated by vehicle. My 46 Merc has a shelf of spare parts. The 240Z isa "someday" resto, so everthing'sinside it. I just put the new carpet formy Galaxie in its trunk instead of under the bench (stays cleaner too!). The Challenger is just going together, so I do have a bunch of stuff lying around, but I took the bumpers and some other chrome stuff to the platers - out of my way for a couple months now...The rest is in one box and under a bench.
Although I do have three hollow-cored doors that are in my way after being "updated"...I got so many good ideas from you guys on uses for them, I can't throw them out - but I should.
 

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If I don't ever plan on using an item again or it is obsoleted, I'd sell it first. Give it a shot on ebay or craigslist, then if it doesnt bring in anything there. Trash.
 

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Everybody knows the old saying about how if the only tool you have is a hammer, then every problem looks like a nail. I think the problem might be that a garage becomes the single tool that we use to do (at least) three completely different jobs. A garage is a place to get work done, it's a place to park cars and other toys, and it's a place to store parts and materials. I think the danger is letting these three things overlap too much in the same place.

In a perfect world, we'd have one building dedicated to parking cars and all the other toys we like to ride on. Next door to that we'd have a shop with good lighting and space enough to work without having to move boxes of **** in order to get started. Next door to that, we'd have a room filled with shelves and drawers for storing our rat poison and PVC glue.

Of course, most of us aren't allowed to have three different garages -- but it was useful for me to at least take the approach that no single area should ever have to function as all three of these things at the same time. So I decided my two-car garage was now a one-car garage (sorry, daily drivers), and that all the stuff that would simply be 'sitting in storage' in my garage would go into a shed dedicated to storage. That left half a garage for the tools and supplies I needed to get work done. I can expand the working area temporarily by moving the car out. But I promised myself I would never be moving boxes of books and lamps (and other stuff the wife didn't want in the house) in order to get some work done -- so I built a separate shed for that.

At the risk of posting too many pictures, here's the working side:

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With the parking on the other side:

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And the storage in the driveway. The overhang part shelters the garbage can here, but it's long-term function is for bicycles/big-wheels/scooters/whatever.

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Boyd Who

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I used to hang on to everything, then we moved. It's amazing how much **** you can accumulate over 5 or 6 years!! I've been alot better at "purging" my garage and storage areas now. So much so that I recently started up a business in my town to help out other people like me. I now haul junk away from houses, garages, yards, etc. :D
 

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I am dealing with the same problem right now. I bought 10 plactic tubs with lids and am putting the smaller stuff into them and writing on the side whats in each on. Next I will put a couple of shelves in the loft of my shop. One labeled "paint stuff" has brushes, rollers. calk. sheet rock tools calk guns etc in it.. Car parts that fit my sons car is labeled "nissan" Electrical parts are in another... If ten tubs arent enough I will go get 10 more.
 

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I feel bad for that lady with the crowded house - she's ill and maybe not getting any help. Hopefully her OCD issues don't get dangerous!
 

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my problem is that I hate to throw anything out.
keep it or sell it works good for me.
of course of you try to sell it and nobody buys it...its much easier to proclaim it to be junk
once a year we try to sort through stuff and we collect it in some boxes in the garage.
we have a yard sale to try to recoup some money and then the remains either go to donation or trash

bob
 

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A few years ago I went with a less is more attitude. Got rid of a ton of stuff. Called everyone I knew to pick through the "pile" . Nobody wanted anything. Filled a 10 yard dumpster full of plumbing material. I had about enough P.V.C. pipe & fittings to rough about two houses. I won't use it in my house, so into the dumpster it went. I did scrap all the copper and brass though. I had faucets ,valves, gas pipe you name it. Let me repeat.... NOBODY wanted anything. I got a lot of " can you hold on to it for a couple of days?" Well....... No. Get rid of what you DO NOT NEED. Forget about..... "I used to have one of those and now I have to go out and buy one" Just do it!!!! You'll feel better. Trust me I'm not a woman.
 

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A few years ago I went with a less is more attitude. Got rid of a ton of stuff. Called everyone I knew to pick through the "pile" . Nobody wanted anything. Filled a 10 yard dumpster full of plumbing material. I had about enough P.V.C. pipe & fittings to rough about two houses. I won't use it in my house, so into the dumpster it went. I did scrap all the copper and brass though. I had faucets ,valves, gas pipe you name it. Let me repeat.... NOBODY wanted anything. I got a lot of " can you hold on to it for a couple of days?" Well....... No. Get rid of what you DO NOT NEED. Forget about..... "I used to have one of those and now I have to go out and buy one" Just do it!!!! You'll feel better. Trust me I'm not a woman.

that is one way to tell its junk.
when nobody will take it for free...that it a clue

bob
 

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I have a simple solution.

Step 1. Get a 12 pack, drink one.

Step 2. Roll dumpster in front of garage/house.

Step 3. Drink beer #2.

Step 4. Grab a section of questionable stuff, dump it on floor.

Step 5. Drink beer #3.

Step 6. Take pre-purchased tupperware containers and labels for things to keep and set aside.

Step 7. Drink beer #4.

Step 8. Pick up first item in pile and decided if it's easier to toss it in the dumpster, or if it's worth keeping. If it's worth keeping, put it in another pile.

Step 8. Do a few more items, drink beer #5.

Step 9. When pile is sorted, and junk is in dumpster, separate the things to keep into respective categories.

Step 10. Drink beer #6.

Step 11. Label tupperware containers clearly.

Step 12. Drink beer #7.

Step 13. Put sorted pile into respective containers and set on shelf in order.

Step 14. Drink beer #8.

Step 15. Toss another pile on the floor, repeat.

When you wake up in the morning, you will find the dumpster full, 3 bags off to the side, and everything else clearly labeled.
 

Frank Elson

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Now THAT I have to try !

What has surprised me in the past few weeks is how much space I have been able to reclaim simply by moving stuff abut, putting in tupperwares or drawers.
There really wasn't a lot of trash around, just spares in the wrong places.
 

pipehack

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Is tupperware even made anymore??? I used to hang with a guy whose mom sold that stuff and made a small fortune.
 

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Give it away to your closest friends. To them, it will be "new" stuff and that will reset the how-long-do-I-keep-it clock. If you find that you have a use for it later you can always borrow it from them, or they my be tired of it by then and be willing to give it back to you.
 
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