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priobe

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Hello all I have 2 car garage that I would like to install a 1 1/2 ton to 2 ton mini split unit. I am located in fl and wanted to the best place to purchase this unit and if there are any group buys on this unit
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JakeKohl

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I bought two from AC Wholesalers. I also had a support issue with the remote thermostat temperature settings being incorrect. They sent me directly to LG for support (which was OK) and once LG identified the faulty remotes (there was a bad batch), AC Wholesalers sent the new ones out with very little fuss. I also believe they are located in Florida.

The heat pump units themselves, work very well. I've had mine running for about 1.5 years now and am very happy with the efficiency and capacity. I installed mine on my own but I have some HVAC background (and the correct tools).


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I bought two from AC Wholesalers. I also had a support issue with the remote thermostat temperature settings being incorrect. They sent me directly to LG for support (which was OK) and once LG identified the faulty remotes (there was a bad batch), AC Wholesalers sent the new ones out with very little fuss. I also believe they are located in Florida.

The heat pump units themselves, work very well. I've had mine running for about 1.5 years now and am very happy with the efficiency and capacity. I installed mine on my own but I have some HVAC background (and the correct tools).


DSC_3728 by Team Seacats, on Flickr


DSC_3711 by Team Seacats, on Flickr


DSC_3020 by Team Seacats, on Flickr


Nice install! Look like Mirror cools, never fitted those but have done a few Art cool models.

Priobe, no idea where you can get stuff locally but i would advise you to get them professionally installed or at least commissioned, have seen quite a few failures caused be leaky joints and lack of evacuation caused by people doing stuff themselves.
If you do decide to get a professional involved, find one before buying the kit as some tradesmen won't do the work unless they do it all...
 

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I priced out a 2t mini split/heat pump for one of my old customers the other day at supply house,I about choked when they told me my price for the parts for 4 rooms!:spit:
Im guessing that they figure youre making up for it by saving on the labor on the install,either way I can see why Ive never installed one before!:lol:
 

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I priced out a 2t mini split/heat pump for one of my old customers the other day at supply house,I about choked when they told me my price for the parts for 4 rooms!:spit:
Im guessing that they figure youre making up for it by saving on the labor on the install,either way I can see why Ive never installed one before!:lol:

I was looking to get two multi-zones in my house a couple of summers ago. A 24kBTU dual zone for one side of the house and a 24kBTU triple zone for the other.

Got quotes from 3 pro's, all of them came in around $16,000 :eyecrazy:

Just the dual-zone which would have covered the living/dining/kitchen area on the first floor and then master br above was $7,500 :willy_nil

...and we're talking textbook install as well where the two indoor units are on exterior walls and stacked above the location where the outdoor unit will go. I have an unfinished basement, new panel, and regular wall/siding construction...

For those prices I would just consider putting in a traditional ducted system that would handle heating and cooling.

In the end for $700 I bought (3) window units and called it a day... if I had the wall space available I'd consider through-wall units to save on removal labor and be able to increase the capacity and decrease the noise levels (and retain window use)
 

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You guys ever notice that these are all over the place in second and third world countries? Wonder if they really cost that much or are the US distributors just making a big profit.
 

zmaxmotorsports

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I want to say it was right in the neighborhood of $4100.00 they quoted me for the materials.
I guess Ive just grown acustomed to buying condensing units and coils with line sets for around $1000.00,around $1500.00 for heat pumps.:lol:
 

jad3675

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I was looking to get two multi-zones in my house a couple of summers ago. A 24kBTU dual zone for one side of the house and a 24kBTU triple zone for the other.

Got quotes from 3 pro's, all of them came in around $16,000 :eyecrazy:

Just the dual-zone which would have covered the living/dining/kitchen area on the first floor and then master br above was $7,500 :willy_nil

I was in the same boat as you - three contractors quoted me about the same price for similar systems. In the end, I decided to do the install myself - I purchased the units online (ecomfort.com) and had a HVAC tech do the pressure test, vacuum and release the R410A. Ended up spending about 60% of what I was quoted for an installed system, and made sure it was done to my OCD level of detail.

To answer the OP - Acwholesalers.com (goductless.com) is a good vendor, as is eComfort.com.

John
 

JakeKohl

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I priced out a 2t mini split/heat pump for one of my old customers the other day at supply house,I about choked when they told me my price for the parts for 4 rooms!:spit:
Im guessing that they figure youre making up for it by saving on the labor on the install,either way I can see why Ive never installed one before!:lol:

Yeah, these systems really start to loose their cost effectiveness when you move into the multi-zone systems. The single zone systems are still pretty cost effective because you still avoid all the ducting and space that a traditional air handler and outdoor unit would require. The dual zone systems are just a little less than twice the cost of the single zone systems and the triple and quad systems are priced similarly (3x, 4x). The savings really don't add up when you start talking about the multi-zone systems.
 
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estrellajon

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Im thinking of installing a unit for my garage. It gets hot in the summer and I usually work on cars during these times.

Is it possible to install the compressor in my garage attic venting out or does the unit need to be outside. My garage attic has nothing in there but has soffits to the outside air

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Im thinking of installing a unit for my garage. It gets hot in the summer and I usually work on cars during these times.

Is it possible to install the compressor in my garage attic venting out or does the unit need to be outside. My garage attic has nothing in there but has soffits to the outside air

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I suppose it's technically possible but I'm sure it would be problematic. For starters, it would be difficult to access. It would never have enough air in that confined space and the attic temperatures would work against it. All heat pump outdoor units move a great deal of air to obtain the efficiencies. Any rise in the temperature of that air flowing through them will decrease their efficiency significantly not to mention potentially damage the components.

You can make a roof mount for these units and put them over a shingled roof - perhaps that may be a solution? They also make wall mounts (as I used).
 

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I have an 2T LG heatpump as well - love it. I think i paid around 1500 from acwholesalers. I did the install myself (not bad at all). I paid a local hvac company to connect the lineset ($100-130 ish if i remember right). I dont know where you guys are getting 4-7k quotes.... but thats crazy :)

I would never not have AC/Heat in our garage...1500 is crazy cheap for efficient heat/cooling. :thumbup:
 

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Wow, that's pretty amazing deal for 18K Btu for $886 with free shipping.

Anyone have any actual experience with this Celiera brand??

What all wall penetrations/holes necessary as I have all brick garage?? Or can the exterior portion be attached up higher in gable area where I have just wooden siding??

Would heater be adequate to handle 22' x 35' garage fully insulated with 8 ft walls (midwest winters . . . somewhat mild)??
 

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I have an 2T LG heatpump as well - love it. I think i paid around 1500 from acwholesalers. I did the install myself (not bad at all). I paid a local hvac company to connect the lineset ($100-130 ish if i remember right). I dont know where you guys are getting 4-7k quotes.... but thats crazy :)

I would never not have AC/Heat in our garage...1500 is crazy cheap for efficient heat/cooling.

This Comfort Aire 24K Btu for $1573 looks awful nice and 17 SEER.
https://www.acwholesalers.com/Comfo...tless-Heat-Pump-System/14180.ac?question=mini split#

How do you think this Comfort Aire compares to your LG??
 

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Wow, that's pretty amazing deal for 18K Btu for $886 with free shipping.

Anyone have any actual experience with this Celiera brand??

What all wall penetrations/holes necessary as I have all brick garage?? Or can the exterior portion be attached up higher in gable area where I have just wooden siding??

Would heater be adequate to handle 22' x 35' garage fully insulated with 8 ft walls (midwest winters . . . somewhat mild)??

I have no idea about that brand but, personally, I would stick to the name brand stuff for a few extra bucks. 18kbtu should be plenty for your garage. I have an 18kbtu in my 24x36x10 and it works magnificently.

You can mount it on the gable or just run the linesets out the gable and down the exterior brick wall (use the expensive linset covers or gutter downspout to hide). It is preferable to have the outdoor unit at an easily accessible level since this is where it is charged and you need an electrical disconnect near it.
 

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I'm with Jake on buying the name brands. Buy an off brand for a few dollars savings and have a problem and it can be a real problem. "Can be", being the operative word. For mini-split accessories I'd suggest that you check out www.rectorseal.com They bought Airtec a few years ago.
 

JakeKohl

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I'm with Jake on buying the name brands. Buy an off brand for a few dollars savings and have a problem and it can be a real problem. "Can be", being the operative word. For mini-split accessories I'd suggest that you check out www.rectorseal.com They bought Airtec a few years ago.

It's one thing to go cheap on something that slides into a window and can be replaced in 30 minutes. It's another to go cheap with something that can have an intricate installation like a mini-split that isn't so easy to replace. The refrigeration lineset diameters tend to vary from brand to brand too - so even the hard stuff in/on the walls may have to change if you switch brands later.
 

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Wow, that's pretty amazing deal for 18K Btu for $886 with free shipping.

Anyone have any actual experience with this Celiera brand??

What all wall penetrations/holes necessary as I have all brick garage?? Or can the exterior portion be attached up higher in gable area where I have just wooden siding??

Would heater be adequate to handle 22' x 35' garage fully insulated with 8 ft walls (midwest winters . . . somewhat mild)??

I strongly suggest that any mshp be installed off the ground. When in the defrost mode you end up with condensation that if not allowed to drain can freeze up into the condensing coil and turn that super efficient fan into something less so. AS well, I had a customer call with a service call and went out to a unit that was FULL of garter snakes. Freaked me out! As well, it keeps the unit cleaner and that is a big deal. I regularly use those wall brackets on the Rectorseal site. I have also used their roof mounts successfully. If you look at the line set covers, which trim out pretty nicely and handle well, you can mount your unit off the ground attached to the brick wall, extend the line set up to the blocking and enter there. Your drain line will want to operate by gravity so that will require some thought.

As to whether the unit will handle the garage, if it was a Fujitsu, mitsu or Daikin I would say yes, unequivocally. Look at HSPF (Heating Seasonal Performance Factor) number for your proposed unit. The best brands will be in the 11-12.5 range. Again it being an off brand compare its heating curve with your seasonal temps.
 
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