So I'm trying to plan what to do with the tax return and would like to get drawings done for the garage. It will be a 30'x40-48'. depending on cost of course. The drawings are easy enough but how does it get put on a plot plan to show the county for approval of a building permit? Do I have to get a surveyer to do that? I probably won't start the build until next year but I would like to get it put onto paper and have something to look at and work towards.
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Scout Driver
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I'm an assessor and zoning administrator in South Dakota. Hopefully some of what I give to you will work where you are.
In a given year, I will probably look over about 150 building permit applications in my county. My requirement is just a sketch of the proposed structure and its relationship/distance to lot lines, road right-of-ways, high water lines, etc. As far as a plat....check your mortgage survey or mortgage to see if a plat or survey of your property is included in the paperwork. If you don't find one there, go to your courthouse. The register-of-deeds or tax assessor should have a copy of your plat (if in-fact your property is platted). Get a copy of the plat or dimensions of your lot if that is all that is available. A scale drawing of your building should be easy to draw onto the plat. Or you could contact the company who did the survey of the plat (their contact info. and name is usually right on the plat) and have them produce a plat with your building foot-print on it. Or find someone who is handy doing CAD drawings with a computer. I don't think that you need to have a surveyor draw a plat with the building.
Best thing to do right away would be to contact whomever does the permit approvals. Find out specifically they require. Like I said before, I don't require anything super-detailed where I am. Usually zoning admins. are more concerned about set-backs than anything else.
I kinda rambled and got long winded but I hope this helps you. Let me know if you would like anymore "wisdom" from me! Best of luck with your project!
Scott
In a given year, I will probably look over about 150 building permit applications in my county. My requirement is just a sketch of the proposed structure and its relationship/distance to lot lines, road right-of-ways, high water lines, etc. As far as a plat....check your mortgage survey or mortgage to see if a plat or survey of your property is included in the paperwork. If you don't find one there, go to your courthouse. The register-of-deeds or tax assessor should have a copy of your plat (if in-fact your property is platted). Get a copy of the plat or dimensions of your lot if that is all that is available. A scale drawing of your building should be easy to draw onto the plat. Or you could contact the company who did the survey of the plat (their contact info. and name is usually right on the plat) and have them produce a plat with your building foot-print on it. Or find someone who is handy doing CAD drawings with a computer. I don't think that you need to have a surveyor draw a plat with the building.
Best thing to do right away would be to contact whomever does the permit approvals. Find out specifically they require. Like I said before, I don't require anything super-detailed where I am. Usually zoning admins. are more concerned about set-backs than anything else.
I kinda rambled and got long winded but I hope this helps you. Let me know if you would like anymore "wisdom" from me! Best of luck with your project!
Scott
Snap50
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I'd guess that if you are anywhere near the minimum set back distance from the property line you may be required to have a certified plot plan. Things get touchy when it could get into legal issues.
The best person to ask is your local Building Inspector/Official. Basically they are god in their locality. Their code interpretation governs over all other opinions.
The best person to ask is your local Building Inspector/Official. Basically they are god in their locality. Their code interpretation governs over all other opinions.
It makes sense to just go to the court house first. Get another copy of the plat that I can take to the architect with the county codes that will need followed.
The building will be very close to the minimum setback. I have a 25'MBL and was planning to build only a foot or two away from it. If I go any further away from it then I will have to go with 28' wide instead of 30' which I don't want to do. My septic perimeter drain is on the other side. My understanding is you can build right next to the drain. I have roughly 2' on the MBL to spare and 1' on the perimeter drain to spare.
OK next question. Is there a kind of ballpark range as far as cost per sq./ft that anyone has? I know it depends on finish as far as siding, brick and so forth but a ballpark idea of cost would be nice. I was thinking of having it drawn a couple of different ways to be able to estimate costs. I would like to do a lot of brick but do not know if my budget will allow.
The building will be very close to the minimum setback. I have a 25'MBL and was planning to build only a foot or two away from it. If I go any further away from it then I will have to go with 28' wide instead of 30' which I don't want to do. My septic perimeter drain is on the other side. My understanding is you can build right next to the drain. I have roughly 2' on the MBL to spare and 1' on the perimeter drain to spare.
OK next question. Is there a kind of ballpark range as far as cost per sq./ft that anyone has? I know it depends on finish as far as siding, brick and so forth but a ballpark idea of cost would be nice. I was thinking of having it drawn a couple of different ways to be able to estimate costs. I would like to do a lot of brick but do not know if my budget will allow.
When you bought the property there should have been a survey done. If you didnt get a copy there should be one on file with the recorder's office. when i had my 2 lot's combined to 1 i filed the survey with them. they should be able to get you coppies
2level
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Is your garage going to be stick built or a pole barn type? Cost varies by region, but in my area stick built is usually $30-$40/sf complete with doors, windows, siding, roof, gutters, paint and minimal electric. This includes all hired labor. If you provide the sweat equity the cost can be half that. Be prepared to provide 600-900+ hours on a 1500 sf garage.
If you do extensive electric, plumbing, insulation, sheetrock, air piping, cabinets, and work benches; it would be easy to spend another $10-$20/sf.
If you do extensive electric, plumbing, insulation, sheetrock, air piping, cabinets, and work benches; it would be easy to spend another $10-$20/sf.
I was planning stick built. I will contract out the foundation and the trusses. Depending on how much brick I use I would contract that as well. I could do everything else. At this point I just want to get the shell of it up and worry about finishing out the interior later. I don't think I will do any plumbing, maybe just add a deep sink to my current 2 car attached.
We built the house in '06 on what used to be farm ground. We have a copy of the plat that we had to use for house placement in '06.
We built the house in '06 on what used to be farm ground. We have a copy of the plat that we had to use for house placement in '06.
A crude drawing is fine in most areas, use a copy of house plot plan and just draw it on labeling the setbacks, distance from house, road, etc. They just look for set backs, distance from septic/well/other structures. Make sure you are putting up a "BARN" not a garage, being used for storage. Less taxes, less permit fees.
tdkkart
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Depending on how advanced your county is you might check their website, many have alot of information that will save you a trip to the courthouse. Our county has almost the entire procedure documented on the planning and zoning page of the website.
Also, you will find that most contractors can tell you the rules off the top of their head, however thsi is no excuse for you not knowing. You need to educate yourself so you can step in if trouble seems imminent.
Also, you will find that most contractors can tell you the rules off the top of their head, however thsi is no excuse for you not knowing. You need to educate yourself so you can step in if trouble seems imminent.
Jas.Dou
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I also believe you can get the procedure online. If you find the drawings easy enough you can try to do it yourself.
Then get a few estimates from different contractors as they will have something in mind from the moment they see the place.But always know what they are doing so you don't regret it later.To see what you can or can not do yourself, you can have a look at a garage building guide, this one also offers estimate from all areas.
After that if all went well, you are ready to start.
Good Luck.
Then get a few estimates from different contractors as they will have something in mind from the moment they see the place.But always know what they are doing so you don't regret it later.To see what you can or can not do yourself, you can have a look at a garage building guide, this one also offers estimate from all areas.
After that if all went well, you are ready to start.
Good Luck.