Which cutter ?

[dogdad]

Which of these two cutters would you go with?
Knipex 73 72 180 Twin Force High Performance cutter


or the NWS 138 68 200 Fantastico Plus cutter?


Both are excellent I would say and the Knipex is much higher $$..




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[FMC1959]

I have tons of Knipex, but not those cutters. Probably very good as I find all my Knipex to be top notch performance & quality.

I do have those NWS and find thy are excellent. I would recommend them to anyone and if I needed another pair of high leverage cutters I would definitely get these NWS

 

[LXCam]

Both are hardwire cutters. I'd give the edge to the NWS as they're almost 3/4" longer.

 

[d.mcfarland]

I would bet the NWS cut easier because of the design.

 

[Wamsutta]

What are you going to cut with them? They're both too short to cut cotter pins.

 

[Jeff Mcmillan]

The big difference is how they produce the leverage. Knipex keeps a single joint but just moves the cutting edge back into it to give more leverage at that point. There's no change in leverage over the pliers, just a point farther back in the pliers that makes higher leverage available. The NWS pliers use a double joint (technically 1.5 joint) that gives more leverage across the entire cutting edge of the pliers.

It's a lot about use and personal preference. The knipex will feel like normal diagonal cutters until you need to cut something very hard (and thin enough to fit deep in the pliers). The NWS require you to open the handles wider for the same blade angle so they feel very different from normal diagonal cutters.

 

[Carves]

The NWS require you to open the handles wider for the same blade angle so they feel very different from normal diagonal cutters.

They take a bit of getting used to initially, imho ... but still good value.

Mine have survived quite well, despite cutting a bunch of stuff they probably shouldnt have.

 

[DBendr]

For hardwire I'd go with a Merry 305 carbide. I use them for springs a lot.
For brute leverage I'm a cheap ***.
Great plier though.

 

[dogdad]

What are you going to cut with them? They're both too short to cut cotter pins.

Anything that I'm able to when they're needed....both manufacturers express they will cut more with less effort...both seem to have the same "sliding pin" movement.

 

[jallyn]

Those Knipex and NWS are essentially the same compound leverage design for less hand effort. I have the exact NWS Fantastico 8" cutters you mention and love the looks of the tool especially the red and gray multi-component grips. However, the cutting edges don't perfectly line up so when they come together and I continue squeezing they slide past one another 1mm if I squeeze tightly. The first thing I cut with the NWS 8" Fantastico Cutters is snip 1/2" off a black all purpose screw. Since the cutters are rated for 3.0mm piano wire I thought this would be fine. Well it cut the screw with much effort and left damage to the cutters so now you can see through the cutters when closed. Now I know I should have used a different tool, like a Knipex CoBolt Cutter.

NWS pliers are nice and I have a whole set of them since they look awesome, are made in Germany, and are less expensive than Knipex. My experience with both brands is NWS are good, and Knipex are great.

 

[Mohawk Dave]

Dude, for the Kinipex price you can get the Snap On High Leverage cutters. Those are badass.

IDK the PN off hand...I'll look.... 388BCP ebay used for like 25 bux http://www.ebay.com/itm/SNAP-ON-DIA...:g:dO8AAOSwwPhWln1n&item=111873852468&vxp=mtr

 

[Monte]

 

[DBendr]

OOPS. Sorry. Between those two. The Knipex

 

[zkling]

NWS and then add a knipex mini bolt cutter if you don't already have one. Diagonal cutters don't really have the blade geometry to consistently cut hard wire.

Dude, for the Kinipex price you can get the Snap On High Leverage cutters. Those are badass.

IDK the PN off hand...I'll look.... 388BCP ebay used for like 25 bux http://www.ebay.com/itm/SNAP-ON-DIA...:g:dO8AAOSwwPhWln1n&item=111873852468&vxp=mtr

IMHO the only benefit to those is the ease of warranty over the german brands, otherwise I don't think they are as hard edged or offer the same compound. Yes I have a few pairs.

 

[Richard Cranium]

I prefer the nws ones, they have more leverage.