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rlitman

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Hack saws are meant to cut on the push stroke. Pointy part points forward.
Saws that cut on the pull stroke do not require a frame or spine. Totally different kind of saw.
 

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What type of hack saw you talking about? Power, C-frame hand, or a stiff back for the blade. Powered saws can be either way. Rlitman spoke to hand saws.

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Depends upon what you are cutting. Normally, cut on the push stroke on plate and all, but I reverse the blade with teeth pointing toward me when I cut pipe, especially sheet metal. It just makes it a lot easier.
 

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Depends upon what you are cutting. Normally, cut on the push stroke on plate and all, but I reverse the blade with teeth pointing toward me when I cut pipe, especially sheet metal. It just makes it a lot easier.
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-Depends on the application. I run my hacksaw both ways. Normally when I pick it up I check which direction the teeth are going so I know what type of motion to use. If the teeth are wrong for the application I reverse the blade.

With those little blade holders for tight spaces I almost always use the teeth pointing towards me so I cut with the pull.

Frank is correct on conventions.
 

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North of the equator, the teeth point clockwise

South of the equator, they point counter-clockwise

Excapt during the vernal and autumnal equinox, during which time the above is reversed
 

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^^^+1

-Depends on the application. I run my hacksaw both ways. Normally when I pick it up I check which direction the teeth are going so I know what type of motion to use. If the teeth are wrong for the application I reverse the blade.

With those little blade holders for tight spaces I almost always use the teeth pointing towards me so I cut with the pull.

Frank is correct on conventions.

The hacksaw handle is designed to give you a good surface for your palm to push with. When I need a pull stroke (some lathe operations come to mind), I just turn the saw around. I never bother with reversing the blade.
And yes, this only applies to hand hacksaws. With a powerhack, the blade's direction depends on the saw's fixturing, but I've seen more that cut on the pull stroke, than ones that cut on the push.

As for the North of the equator vs South, that's not quite right. It actually refers to the tooth set orientation.
In the northern Hemisphere, they're set right, left, right, left . . .
In the southern Hemisphere, they're set left, right, left, right, etc.
I'd need to go back to my references books to see what the differences are when you've got a wave set blade.
 

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Like the others have said, they cut on the push stroke. While others may switch them around for different things.

I seriously had to stop and think which way they go. It's one of those things that I just do automatically and never think about. You stop to think about it and you start second guessing yourself. :dunno:
 

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The hacksaw handle is designed to give you a good surface for your palm to push with. When I need a pull stroke (some lathe operations come to mind), I just turn the saw around. I never bother with reversing the blade.
The handle usually works just as well for pulling. I have also just turned the saw around occasionally for a quick job. I usually prefer to pull if I can since there are fewer chances for injuries when pulling away from the work.
 
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Hah.. My first 'post'. Hello all of you... Enjoying all your inputs, I was taught No. 1: as a hacksaw blade was 'brittle' and would snap... you'd want to be 'pulling' towards you if/when it snapped for better control of where you'd end up.. away from the work, or into it! No. 2: was always told to 'let the blade do the work' and not to 'force' it.. So, I'll always have the teeth working on the 'pull'.. My $.02 worth. Works for me.
 

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Welcome to the forum.

But I really don't buy that argument. I can tie my bi-metal hack saw blades into a knot. There's nothing brittle about them, and the tension on the saw frame is designed specifically to cut on the push stroke (same thing goes for a saw blade with a spine). If you were cutting on the pull stroke, you wouldn't need a frame, would you?
 

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The Japanese use a small knife (Dsouki) that pulls through the wood. I have one.

Google that. It's the wrong word evidently. :headscrat

Are you talking about a Japanese Backsaw? They are not small knives, they come in various sizes and thicknesses. I've had one for years. Fine tooth and very sharp. Also very precise. I think the one I have is only something like .020 thick.

I found it:

Dōzukia Japanese backsaw, used for centuries by carpenters and cabinetmakers in Japan. Although this saw does not share an ancestry with the other backsaws in this group, the concept is the same. Like most Japanese saws, the dōzuki cuts on the pull stroke, allowing for much straighter and narrower cuts than those achieved with push-stroke saws. This is due to tension on the blade during the cut (versus compression for a western saw), so less thickness is required to keep the saw blade straight.
 
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I thought hacksaw blades cut on the forward stroke so any metal chips would fly away from you. Thats how I remember to install the blades anyway.
 

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All I remember is CWO Bussi constantly getting on my case for not lifting the hacksaw off the work every time, bringing it back toward me, placing it on the work, and pushing the hacksaw through the metal. Traumatized.

I now use all means of motor/mechanical advantage and avoid the hacksaw like the bubonic plague.
 

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Yes, and surprisingly you end up cutting the piece more quickly because you don't damage the teeth dragging them back across the work or cutting too fast.
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That's not a surprise, but hacksaw blades are so cheap and plentiful, I don't really bother being careful with that technique. A gently up and back motion with the handle on the return stroke removes any pressure from the teeth, even if it doesn't completely lift them.

Now with a file on the other hand, this is oh so important.

Yes, Japanese saws such as the dozuki and ryoba are made to cut on the back stroke. Also American flexible flush cut saws that work on the same principle.
These have completely different tooth profiles to hack saws though.
 

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Speaking of chain saws. Mine didn't cut worth a damn when I put the chain on backwards. I didn't think that was possible, but believe me, it is. My wife suggested I just hold the saw backwards.

Ralph
 
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