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OveRReV

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I would have gone IR. Their stuff is so good. Pretty much all of the top companies rebrand their products these days... it just doesn't get much better.

It amazes me that any company can even compete anymore when they have a deal at Lowes for a IR 1/2 impact gun, 3/8 air ratchet and impact sockets for $150. That is a sick deal. I have a few friends who began their careers with this set and absolutely swear by them.

I don't know much about Aircat, but if it works well for you then go with it. If not, you know where to go next!

it's going to be tested at work against the other impacts, the guy who bought it for me works as a diesel truck mechanic & he has some MAC & SO impacts himself, this is the first time he has encountered an Aircat, his co-workers have IR impacts so we'll see how mine stacks up against their impact guns, this'll be interesting.
 

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I'm curious why you chose the 1404 over the 1000, 1100, or 1200 Aircats.
 

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Among my other impacts, I have an Aircat 1150 and an Aircat 1300-TH. What I like about them:

1. They're assembled in Spokane, WA (using imported and domestic parts, but at least they provide some jobs)
2. They're ridiculously powerful. The 1/2" 1150 pumps out an INSANE 1295 ft-lbs of loosening torque and 200-900 ft-lbs (selectable) in tightening torque. The 3/8" 1300-TH has 500 loosening and 50-350 tightening. That covers most of my bases.
3. They're super quiet.
4. They last forever and are very forgiving to abuse. Compared to my Craftsman Professional, it's like Ironman vs. Barbie.
5. I like the way they route the exhaust. You don't get crud blown all over you.
6. They're reasonably sized as well.
7. The grip is SUPER comfortable. The most comfortable impact wrench I've ever used, actually.
8. A lot of bang for the buck.

Seriously, you can't go wrong with Aircat Impacts. Just be sure to buy the ones that are built in the USA. Some of their lower models are built overseas. It's pretty easy to get the COO info online.
 
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I'm curious why you chose the 1404 over the 1000, 1100, or 1200 Aircats.

aluminum impacts are more durable compared to composite impacts, i don't have a lot of money to spend on impacts so i chose the 1404 over the others (it's cheaper), if i like how the 1404 performs i'll get the 1150 in the future when i save enough cash for a back up.

besides i believe the 1404 is more than enough to cover for the shortcomings of my junky $20 central pneumatic impact wrench.

who wants to see a video of an impact gun being shot with a 1911 .45ACP pistol? i know you want to. :D
 
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Among my other impacts, I have an Aircat 1150 and an Aircat 1300-TH. What I like about them:

1. They're assembled in Spokane, WA (using imported and domestic parts, but at least they provide some jobs)
2. They're ridiculously powerful. The 1/2" 1150 pumps out an INSANE 1295 ft-lbs of loosening torque and 200-900 ft-lbs (selectable) in tightening torque. The 3/8" 1300-TH has 500 loosening and 50-350 tightening. That covers most of my bases.
3. They're super quiet.
4. They last forever and are very forgiving to abuse. Compared to my Craftsman Professional, it's like Ironman vs. Barbie.
5. I like the way they route the exhaust. You don't get crud blown all over you.
6. They're reasonably sized as well.
7. The grip is SUPER comfortable. The most comfortable impact wrench I've ever used, actually.
8. A lot of bang for the buck.

Seriously, you can't go wrong with Aircat Impacts. Just be sure to buy the ones that are built in the USA. Some of their lower models are built overseas. It's pretty easy to get the COO info online.

the 1404 is made in taiwan, i'd rather support a neighbor & an ally than buy products made in commie chink land, those chicoms are grabbing our islands off our west coast so there is an economic & political reason for us to boycott chicom products.

the more we buy from them the stronger their military gets.
 

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Your a Tech REPAIR the first gun, once you have the new one in service.Air tool oil first see if it works better High humity in your part of the world

Take it apart clean the air inlet screen, then check the vanes air guns are simple.

I have the 231 an a few Highly modified ones( Sprint Cup Tire changing ) Easy fix,But the trick is to keep them oiled inside
 

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Why buy a 1/2" for motorcycle work?

Curious as to why you didn't get a 3/8" impact for bike work as most bike techs own very little in 1/2".
 
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Why buy a 1/2" for motorcycle work?

Curious as to why you didn't get a 3/8" impact for bike work as most bike techs own very little in 1/2".

because most of my sockets are 1/2" & an 1/2" impact would last longer & make work easier than a 3/8" impact.

i'm probably one of the few bike techs that want a 1/2" though but today i have had the displeasure of removing the nuts off the shock linkage from an 04 GSXR 600, i was going to change the stock links with a lowering link & the nuts are frozen, my gad damned impact didn't even budge the nut, i was so frustrated i could just shoot my impact gun, even with a breaker bar & propane gun the nut was very hard to remove. if i had that aircat now it would have zipped off those nuts in seconds & the work would have been finished much earlier.

i also need it for removing the big 46mm ducati rear axle nuts, those things are a PITA to remove even with a breaker bar.
 
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i'm having trouble with software to download the videos from facebook, microsoft simply wont cooperate with google chrome, i'm getting frustrated here.

anyway this is slightly related to the topic, just got a new & bigger hose for the impact gun, it's an Acme 3/8" coiled nylon air hose with swiveled end fittings, it's made in the USA, hopefully. :D

installed the hose & the quick release couplings (showa, made in japan) to my air compressor & tested it on my crappy $20 CP (central pneumatic) impact gun & it transformed my turd of an impact gun to a maggot of an impact gun, now it's easy to remove 32mm axle nuts from motorcycles. tomorrow i'll test it on some lug nuts & some scooter rear axle nuts that are a PITA to remove.

reading all that stuff about the correct air hose size sure did made a lot of difference & i'm glad i found an air hose that meets the criteria, also saw a goodyear 3/8" yellow rubber air hose at the local classifieds but it was 25' & i figured i don't need something that long at my garage.

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i have had 1404 for about 6 years now and still use it daily, i got it in a first place coz it was quiet and very low price from ebay, somewhere about 100$ brand new, and i was sold to that brand after that, few 2 years ago i got 3/4 IR2141 brand new, that was a big mistake, i should have gone for another 3/4 aircat. much cheaper and much stronger.
only problem i had with 1404 rubber grip part of handle fell apart. so now its just bare aluminum handle. now im in market for 1375xl, more power than 1404, much smaller and lighter and cost about the same, and of course its quite.
 
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thanks for the input, finally the Aircat 1404 arrived, picked it up from a friends house who carried it from Canada, tested it against the central pneumatic impact gun & the results were more than i expected. here's the video i have promised, sorry it took so long.

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i have a ducati 1098 and can't even imagine getting the rear wheel off with a breaker bar. an good impact goes ZIP and takes it right off. same for the duc's front sproket and flywheel bolts.
 

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hello i'm new to the forum & i'm looking to buy a new 1/2" drive impact wrench, i run a small motorcycle shop in our garage so the tool won't be used to remove lug nuts & other heavy duty stuff like that. i current have a ************* Central Pneumatic $20 impact wrench which couldn't even remove the 22mm axle nut off my scooter. :lol:

before i throw this thing into the garbage or sell it for pennies i'm going to buy a replacement for it & i have narrowed down my choices to these 2 candidates;

#1 Ingersoll Rand 231C
#2 Aircat 1404

from the information i gathered from searching the internet the new 231C's are now manufactured in china but i couldn't find information where the 1404's are made, if it's made in taiwan (not the same as china) i'd probably snag it over the 231C, better if it's still made in the USA.

apart from that i want to hear opinions on those who have actually owned & used the 2 impacts i listed over the years & tell me why i should get one over the other? right now i'm leaning towards the Aircat 1404, on paper it seems superior to the 231C in terms of power as i want my impact wrench to bust those nasty nuts & bolts off the scooters i work on. :lol:

i'm working on a budget here & want something that lasts so please no composite & titanium impact wrenches at the moment.


I've heard good things about the IR231C, and love all the IR's that I have used, so I'd say go with that.
 

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The gun would run on its own if plugged into an air line. Not too familiar with the insides of air tools but I'm sure it was some kind of seal. Probably didn't help that i over oiled the holy hell out of it! Thankfully i had a warranty on it through sears and got it warrantied, then gave it to my brother who's also an auto tech to use as a shop gun at the shop he works at.

Also the 231c has a front exhaust which will blow debris everywhere. The 2131 and 2135 have the exhaust through the bottom of the handle. Saves your eyes big time!

I'd add in that my 2100G is composite, light, noise is OK, powerful, and is around $160. Here's Northern Tools Link
 
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i have a ducati 1098 and can't even imagine getting the rear wheel off with a breaker bar. an good impact goes ZIP and takes it right off. same for the duc's front sproket and flywheel bolts.

one of the very reasons i wanted a more powerful impact, the ZX10R has front sprocket nuts that seem to be welded to the countershaft & it took a lot of coaxing with a very very long cheater bar to break the damn nut off. even with the upgraded hose & couplings i don't think my cheap impact gun would have budged the nut.

they tested the 1404 on a truck lug nut torqued to 500 ft/lb & it loosened it right off.
 
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