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I've looked at them quite a bit as well. Though I don't have any yet it is only because of the high price. If cost were no concern I would get the largest size available: PZ-59 http://amzn.to/1KAK0d0 (same as rebranded VamPLIERS Pro but the original "Engineer" brand and slightly cheaper). These things are so highly rated on Amazon.com if you can get past the $$$ then you will love them.
 
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I have the vampliers and love them. Excellent pliers and multi use
 
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Danglerb said:
I've looked at them a dozen times, and decided to buy a pair of the Engineer screw removal pliers (pliers with the nose made to grab the head of screw and twist it out).

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002L6HJAA/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Look like about half a dozen models, PZ- 55 to I think 59, but I hate to buy off of pictures, so anybody know what the differences are?
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Buy the one's you linked to, you will not regret it. I love mine and I recommend them any time I get a chance. The pliers you linked to will work on nearly all regular screws, even smaller heads like the typical PH1 and PH0(pushing it's limits). easily works on PH2 and PH3. The teeth are nice and sharp, the cutter is great, the grips are comfortable. I literally have no complaints other than wanting to buy more in the line.

It's worth every penny. It's saved my **** several times. Even on a recessed screw head that you have to drill out, it works well to get the shaft of the screw out.
 
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Ok now you got me spending more money :)

Engineer PZ-58

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The pz59 look like Linesman pliers. They are all different sizes, there was a gift pack that showed 4 separate pliers on Amazon.

Apparently the Engineer branded versions used to be a lot cheaper. A lot of the reviews said $10-15 cheaper for Engineer vs. Vampliers. From a cursory glance looked like $3 cheaper for pz59.
 
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My brother-in- law bought me the PZ-58 pliers two Christmases ago. they have worked really well.
 
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back when all that was sold in the US was just the one neji-saurus I bought a pair. Love them.

For bigger ones, often times a good strong pair of linesman pliers can work really well and should be in every toolbox.
 
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I also bought the PZ-58 linked. I now keep 'em at the mill 'cause they work well to remove broken taps if you can get any sort of a bite.
 
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dogdad said:
Those look good,,and made in Japan...think I'll get a pair..any recommendations on what size for home use?
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Vampliers are made by Engineer, the difference is they are red and more expensive. Vampliers even have "Engineer" molded in the grip.
 
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Danglerb said:
I've looked at them a dozen times, and decided to buy a pair of the Engineer screw removal pliers (pliers with the nose made to grab the head of screw and twist it out).

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002L6HJAA/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Look like about half a dozen models, PZ- 55 to I think 59, but I hate to buy off of pictures, so anybody know what the differences are?
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Reading some( not all) reviews on Amazon states that after a couple of uses,,the ends wear out on these, or this brand.
 
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Aircraft Tool Supply sells a set of 3 for a pretty reasonable price
 
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dogdad said:
Reading some( not all) reviews on Amazon states that after a couple of uses,,the ends wear out on these, or this brand.
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Yeah I read those reviews too. But with the vast majority being highly-rated I concluded some people don't use enough hand strength to keep the pliers from slipping and wearing out. My $0.02
 
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jallyn said:
Yeah I read those reviews too. But with the vast majority being highly-rated I concluded some people don't use enough hand strength to keep the pliers from slipping and wearing out. My $0.02
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I've used mine more than several times and the head and teeth look new. I cannot say the same for the screws I've removed, the teeth are sharp and hard and they chew screw heads up pretty badly. The handles don't flex as I'm gripping the screws and they still dig deep into the metal.

I have left handed drill bits and screw extractors, which I only use for flush mounted screw heads. These pliers are a lot easier to use and work much faster for heads that aren't flush mounted. It takes me longer to chuck a left handed drill bit than to break a screw head with these pliers.
 
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Maybe a few people got a pair with poor heat treat and soft tips?

I just bought the PZ58, slow ship, but cheap. $20.
 
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The engineer pliers have a low rockwell hardness,

does anybody know why?

....thinking that may be one reason for the reviews of variable performance.

Model 58 for example is also significantly softer than model 59

Whilst Model 59 is more lin line with knipex and other german pliers

maybe they worry about chipping or being brittle

or maybe just lower cost or production :dunno:

edit:....PZ 59 is 4 pts higher in hardness...found the specs

PZ-58 "Made in Japan from S58C class steel with a hardness of HRC56"
PZ-59 "204㎜ Carbon Steel HRC60"
 
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