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Which side down, Metal roof bubble wrap

Raisedonadeere

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My builder is doing metal roofing on my garage build. The metal is screwed to 2x4 purlins that run horizontally across four foot center trusses. The builder puts bubble wrap with foil on one side between the sheet metal and the purlins.

Foil needs an air gap to do any reflecting but he places the foil facing up and in direct contact with the metal roofing with the white side facing into the building. I have looked at several of his building and they are all done this way. The bubble wrap is acting as a vapor barrier to keep moisture away from direct contact with the cold metal and has enough insulation value that the inside surface of the wrap stays above the dew point - it seems to work in this area.

But why not face the foil down where I can see the shiny side looking up from the inside of the building. That way it would reflect.

My idea of the foil helping to reflect summer heat would be to install the purlins on top of the bubble wrap shiny side up, creating an air gap between the wrap and the metal roofing . But I have never seen it done that way. I wonder if perhaps moist air coming up through the vented soffits would condense and drip down onto the foil or just rust the metal from the inside.

So any thoughts on that would be appreciated but my ultimate question why not ask the builder to do everything like he normally does except face the foil down.

My builder is a gem, takes pride in his work, with most integrity I have ever seen in a builder and I do not want to go against his recommendation unless I have good information and a good reason.
 
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I was going to ask if you plan to insulate the building, but we don't know where the building is located.
 

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My roof is done the same way.

My understanding is that the bubble foam is more about reducing condensation than about real insulation.
 

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You're building was done the same way as mine. If I remember correctly, the foil is also a heat reflector for the metal roof.
 

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What about contacting the manufacturer and find out how it is supposed to be installed. I love that worthless stuff because I get to go in a few years later when it fails and comes apart and replace it with real insulation.
 
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I was going to ask if you plan to insulate the building, but we don't know where the building is located.[/QUOTE

Central Kentucky, and yes I will be making it pretty air tight. drywall on sides with metal ceiling and blown in insulation with access to 10' storage located in center of truss through ceiling. Will use for occasional need to power ventilate when creating fumes or dust or just to make more inhabitable when doors are open. Garage doors at each end.
 
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Raisedonadeere

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What about contacting the manufacturer and find out how it is supposed to be installed. I love that worthless stuff because I get to go in a few years later when it fails and comes apart and replace it with real insulation.

I wondered about how long that stuff will last. If it is necessary for preventing condensation then trouble starts when it falls apart over an closed in ceiling and not much room to work in the attic to replace.

I know houses that have metal roofs installed on purlins added over shingle roofs work well. I have not heard of any condensation issues.
 
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Central Kentucky, and yes I will be making it pretty air tight. drywall on sides with metal ceiling and blown in insulation with access to 10' storage located in center of truss through ceiling. Will use for occasional need to power ventilate when creating fumes or dust or just to make more inhabitable when doors are open. Garage doors at each end.

You're power ventilating the attic space or the below ceiling space? Or both?

There won't be typical ventilation at eaves and ridge?
 
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Raisedonadeere

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You're power ventilating the attic space or the below ceiling space? Or both?

There won't be typical ventilation at eaves and ridge?

I am building with standard ridge vent, vented soffit, enclosed ceiling with blown in insulation, with the addition of manual controlled gable ventilators and a ceiling fan to quickly pull foul air out of work space. Considered foaming roof and sealing soffit vents in foam and leaving trusses exposed and for absolute efficiency heating and cooling in a conditioned space that would probably work out best but I am not sacrificing everything for efficiency. Just want to do what I know best (old dog) picking up opportunities to do the best for efficiency as I go hence the question about which way to turn the foil. The foil does nothing that regular un-foiled foam would do if the foil is directly in contact with the metal roofing as best I can understand it. So if there is a reason for my builder to do it the way he does it I would like to know, he installs it to prevent dripping roof but has no thought about it making building cooler or hotter except for what ever the insulation value of the bubble wrap offers. He is not an engineer but does strictly adhere to best practices as he understands them.
 

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Personally I'd skip it, but i'm not an "expert".

I used white metal panels on my building and the builder said that makes a HUGE difference on interior temps.

Might be an option for you.
 
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Raisedonadeere

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Personally I'd skip it, but i'm not an "expert".

I used white metal panels on my building and the builder said that makes a HUGE difference on interior temps.

Might be an option for you.

going white definitely, have a 12x16 metal shed, white roof, and it turned out to not be the toaster oven I feared based on other experience with non white tin sheds. The foil is cheap, the builder has done hundreds of barns and large garages and its what he does so I guess I will not trouble him over it. The material is already here. But I am thinking what a waste, foil in contact with a surface does not radiate.

I plan :)on staying up wind while the builder installs to avoid air from popping bubbles. His fee for guarantee not popping any bubbles was out the roof.
 

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I have that double bubble on roof and walls on my garage. It was installed the same way you mention with the foil facing up and out and the white side in. When I was having it built I opted for it thinking it’d help with condensation a little and wouldn’t really hurt anything else. Now that I’m just about ready to start doing “real insulation” I wonder about vapor barrier and what insulation I should use with it if it changes anything.
 
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You're building was done the same way as mine. If I remember correctly, the foil is also a heat reflector for the metal roof.

The white reflects light better. The foil facing down will be cooler in a hot climate, as it has a lower emissivity.
 
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