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Who does this to a deck?

Mrroo

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Ever since I bought my current house 3 years ago. I’ve been trying to figure out how and why someone would put boards down like this. Wtf. Makes my life a pain. Always pulling up nails. They are out to kill us. My whole deck, approximately 950 square feet is done like this. Nails and screws.
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kelpaso1

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Typical diy office geek who has no clue. Tape measure broken, can't put the nails in at 16" OC rows, 2 nails per row is good enough, a long straight board to mark lines so all the nails are even, and whats with the two rows of double nails:headscrat Would love to see the structure underneath if the easy part was done like that :lol_hitti
 
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quattro_sinko

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I am going to guess it was originally nailed, and that as the nails have pulled up/risen/broken that the screws were added.

The nailing certainly is...thorough.
 
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jumbojak

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The original builder was as interested in asthetics as function. Think of your deck aa being studded like an armchair and it all becomes clear.
 

Skiff Builder

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The boards shown in your picture appear straight, nicely gapped, lying flat, not split, not cupped.Look to be hand nailed.
How old is the install? more pictures?
A coat of stain might make the fasteners less noticable.
30 years ago, installed a 5/4x6 deck nailed 3 per joist, using 10d oval head galvies. Nothing has moved since install, although the boards are near end of service life.Every season I may need to knock a few nail heads down due to the joists shrinking and wet/dry cycling. If it bothers you enough rip it up and fasten the "right way"
 

quattro_sinko

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The boards shown in your picture appear straight, nicely gapped, lying flat, not split, not cupped.Look to be hand nailed.
How old is the install? more pictures?
A coat of stain might make the fasteners less noticable.
30 years ago, installed a 5/4x6 deck nailed 3 per joist, using 10d oval head galvies. Nothing has moved since install, although the boards are near end of service life.Every season I may need to knock a few nail heads down due to the joists shrinking and wet/dry cycling. If it bothers you enough rip it up and fasten the "right way"


I think you are on point with your assessment. I'd be interested in seeing shots of the underside too. I'm curious what the rationale was for the non-standard spacing. Possibly floor joists sandwiching support posts? Maybe pockets for railing posts? All in all it looks like the OB (original builder) was pretty conscientious, even if there's an element of overkill. All in all I think it beats the alternatives.
 

southalabama

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An older friend said on the first job he was on where the roofer had just gotten a brand new nail gun the roofer got so happy nailing he walked off the end of the house.

Probably a homeowner that had problems with a prior deck cupping and he was damned and determined that wouldn't happen again.
 
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