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Who Does This to a Wilton Vise?

exmaxima1

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Posted locally for $100, "Vise converted to hold pipe"
 

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Doug Arthurs

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good god it's just a vise people he needed a pipe vise and he made it. If someone is willing to pay $100 for it then they will if not he will continue to own it or take less. What's the big deal. Sometimes you have to work with what you have. Looks like he just welded it to the jaws anyway either cut them off or make yourself a new set of jaws.
 

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He might have needed it modified to earn his livelihood. May have made a lot of money over the years with it. I agree on not asking $100 bucks on ebay but as far as modifying it....a lot of things have been "improved" to fit their owners needs over the years.
 

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True, but now that he's selling it he shouldn't be expecting to get $100 for it. $10 maybe.

I get it....

However, the OP doesn't specify but I suspect it's listed for sale on craigslist. Have you ever sold anything on craigslist? You NEVER ask what you expect to get for something. The market will ultimately decide what that thing is worth. Somebody will buy it, and what ever that person ends up paying that day, is what that vise is worth at that moment. If you've ever sold anything on CL you'll know what I'm talking about. It's not uncommon for some low-baller to email an offer for 10, 20, maybe 30% of asking price. It happens all day, every day on CL. That's just how CL works. At least around here anyway....
 

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I get it....

However, the OP doesn't specify but I suspect it's listed for sale on craigslist. Have you ever sold anything on craigslist? You NEVER ask what you expect to get for something. The market will ultimately decide what that thing is worth. Somebody will buy it, and what ever that person ends up paying that day, is what that vise is worth at that moment. If you've ever sold anything on CL you'll know what I'm talking about. It's not uncommon for some low-baller to email an offer for 10, 20, maybe 30% of asking price. It happens all day, every day on CL. That's just how CL works. At least around here anyway....

I've sold many things on craigslist. I see what the actual purchase price is on auctions on ebay for a similar item, and I price it for 2/3 of that figure. I've always gotten my asking price.
 

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I've sold many things on craigslist. I see what the actual purchase price is on auctions on ebay for a similar item, and I price it for 2/3 of that figure. I've always gotten my asking price.

Congrats!

Around here, for every serious buyer, you need to weed through MANY low-ball emails and/or phone calls.

Whatever. my point is.... he's the one selling it. He'll either get what he wants, or accept a low ball offer. Nothing wrong with trying to get as much as you can for your item. He may find out the hard way that he's asking to much, but that's his deal. Who cares...

Remember, you can always go down in price, but it's pretty hard to go up! I don't blame him one bit for asking $100. I would do the same thing!
 

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Maybe a stupid question, but just curious, how much that thing is permananetly fubar'd or just super ulgly. ie, did PO just weld that **** the the jaws? Can they be taken out and replaced? or does all of the welding heat also mess up the propeties of the ductile Iron within the vise proper?
 

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Maybe a stupid question, but just curious, how much that thing is permananetly fubar'd or just super ulgly. ie, did PO just weld that **** the the jaws? Can they be taken out and replaced? or does all of the welding heat also mess up the propeties of the ductile Iron within the vise proper?

Like someone else mentioned, some careful grinding and new jaws should take care of it. I would be concerned about cracks where the base and body connect and the main screw as well. If bubba was willing to do a hack job for some pipe jaws, I wouldn't be surprised if someone took a pipe to the handle more than once.
 
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Like someone else mentioned, some careful grinding and new jaws should take care of it. I would be concerned about cracks where the base and body connect and the main screw as well. If bubba was willing to do a hack job for some pipe jaws, I wouldn't be surprised if someone took a pipe to the handle more than once.

In heavy industry and machining you'd be surprised at the abuse something like a vise takes. And you don't even want to think about oil field work. I've seen pipes welded to handles, swivel bases welded in place modified jaws that make these in the pic look pretty etc. Don't assume that some "dumb redneck" made these modifications for a stupid reason. Personally seen situations where a mod like this to a $600 vise could save many thousands of dollars. Not saying that's the case here but it very well could have been.
 

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+1 that this was Pipeline vise . . . . it's made them plenty of money with this "special purpose modification" . . . even if viewed as atrocious now.

Offer the guy $25 and cut all that stuff off. ;)
 

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good god it's just a vise people he needed a pipe vise and he made it. If someone is willing to pay $100 for it then they will if not he will continue to own it or take less. What's the big deal. Sometimes you have to work with what you have. Looks like he just welded it to the jaws anyway either cut them off or make yourself a new set of jaws.

+1. It's the dude's vice. Who knows what position he was in when he needed to mod this: financially, geographically, time pressure, whatever.

The guy did what he needed to do. He turned a tool that didn't work for his job into a tool that did work for his job. To my mind, that's a commendable spirit.
 

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If I was welding pipe and was making money from it I wouldn't hesitate to do this to a vice. It wouldn't matter if it cost me $50, 100, or many times that if I knew modifying it was going to make me more money. It looks like **** but who knows how long ago he did it. A tool is just that, a tool. If a simple mod makes it work better I'm all for it. If he's anything like me he couldn't care less what any of you think about it.

Oh and for the record, when I sell on CL I list it for a fair price and rarely if ever budge from that. Someone who lists something for 3 times what I feel it's worth doesn't get a lowball offer from me. I just keep moving that mouse.
 

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Im all about modifications but after that the tool is basically worthless
 

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Im all about modifications but after that the tool is basically worthless



+1 to 'modifications' part but -10 to 'basically worthless' part - I'd say most, if not all, of us in this forum have at least one way of removing the add-in jaws & restoring a perfectly salvageable Wilton! They were built as commercial quality tools, ya know...
 

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He may have saved $1000 by building a quality tool that He needed..

Someone should buy that vise and mount it on the tailgate of a pickup box trailer.

Then we can rip loose with the comments about destroying a nice pickup AND a vise
:lol:
 
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He might have needed it modified to earn his livelihood. May have made a lot of money over the years with it. I agree on not asking $100 bucks on ebay but as far as modifying it....a lot of things have been "improved" to fit their owners needs over the years.

I'm going to hazard a guess with this. I once bought a brand new KD 1 7/8 wrench (paid somewhere close to $200) and proceeded to cut it in half, heat and straighten the box end, then weld a hammer head to the box end and the open was heated straightened, ground down to fit in the most ungodly space. Tool abuse? Oh yeah. Did it do the job? Sure did. Did I expect any warranty? Not at all! You work with what you got or can get at that moment, as I had a machine down and he company was loosing thousands for every hour it sat.
 

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Who Does This to a Wilton Vise?

Some one who sees the vise as a good starting point of making a useful and unique tool. Just because it no longer fits your notion of what a vise should look like does not mean that it is wasn't a good and profitable tool for the maker.

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