Who here has never touched a Snap-on tool?

[Stadger]

I have touched them but I refuse to caress them.

 

[Gmonkee]

I suspect many times the stories of "I broke two ------ before a ----- removed it" is because the bolt was loosened just enough to start going easy.

I removed a damaged power steering line with a cheap Indian made wrench yesterday where a line wrench would not go on.
It was NOT the wrench rather changing tactics and tapping it on and at an angle for removal that was the magic. Any wrench could have been used.
It will be good for another use at least as there was no more damage.

Skill and experience will compensate for those tough situations, if that fails just try a new approach with the goal of no new damages.

The 2nd option is what worked for me. It will be the 1st option next time.

 

[sberry]

I think there may be some merit to the tubing wrenches too.

 

[GTO]

I'm poor, so no, never.

I'm poor because I have....

 

[Robert Haas]

Oh boy look



Another slam the Snappy brand thread.

If you don't own them, don't use them, or just plain don't like them, Fine. That is your god given right.


So why in the heck is it so important to validate why you don't own or like something?


It is sort of like me saying;" I don't live in a Mansion, I drove by some and a friend let me stay over in his for a couple nights. I could build my own mansion but my house is just fine with me."


See the similarity?

 

[jonesg]

Never touched one, just a home garage guy.
From afar it appears you are paying their replacement cost up front with snapon .
I ran businesses for decades and know from experience if you charge up the yingyang people will convince themselves its great.
They've done the math and it only needs to be good enough for hard commercial use.

 

[jonesg]

Oh boy look



Another slam the Snappy brand thread.

If you don't own them, don't use them, or just plain don't like them, Fine. That is your god given right.


So why in the heck is it so important to validate why you don't own or like something?


It is sort of like me saying;" I don't live in a Mansion, I drove by some and a friend let me stay over in his for a couple nights. I could build my own mansion but my house is just fine with me."


See the similarity?

This thread isn't for guys who have touched snapon tools.

 

[American Locomotive]

I suspect many times the stories of "I broke two ------ before a ----- removed it" is because the bolt was loosened just enough to start going easy.
.

I bent two wrenches in succession. The steel of the wrench hit the yield point and any more torque on the wrench just resulted in more bending with no more force being put on the fastener. I had to put more force on the end of that Craftsman wrench to break the bolt free than I put on the Snap-On wrenches.

I'm in no way trying to imply that the Snap-On wrenches are bad, just that they're not the end-all of tools. The cheap Craftsman wrench did the job I needed it do, while costing 25% of the Snap-On wrenches.

So why in the heck is it so important to validate why you don't own or like something?

Oh please, every other thread on here is full of Snap-On owners trashing cheaper tools too. Feelings get hurt on both sides.

 

[pi_guy]

So I take it that you don't use your screw drivers for prying on things and never beat on handles with the hammer? Man, you're missing out on the full experience.

I use & abuse and break em, just wear white gloves.....

 

[Jeepster04]

Nope, never have. Cant say anything negative about snap-on. Its whatever makes you happy, not what makes everyone else happy. I'm happy with what I have.

 

[derosa]

I have three sae wrenches that I've never used, they're fairly common sizes if you use sae but I don't so they're fairly useless to me. I'm one of those who doesn't work in the automotive industry so can not justify the price for something that has a convenience mark up. Though I suspect if I did work on cars I'd be too cheap to have too much of the brand when wright and SK will do the job. That said I am considering a set of reversible ratchet wrenches from snap-on as it seems to be one tool for which there is no other brand comparable, the SK seem just as good, and maybe better but not reversible kills it for me.

 

[Codejack]

I bought my first Snap On ratchet, a GF80, a couple of weeks ago, and I love it!

That being said, I am coming from a 20-year-old Kobalt/William 37-tooth or something, so any modern ratchet would probably impress me.

I looked at the Gearwrench 120xp at the parts store, and the backdrag is crazy; the GF80 isn't exactly light, but nothing like the GW. Obvious, really, since the 120xp has to move 2 pawls springs, while the GF80 only has to move 1.

I'm not sure that I will be buying another SO ratchet any time soon, though; I got the normal 3/8" ratchet, the size I use most often, and will probably get either a GW 84-tooth or a Harbor Freight Pro 72-tooth for my 1/2" set.

 

[tkdone]

I have snap on, SK,craftsman pro,proto,blackhawk,gearwrench,bluepoint,dewalt hand tools. I like them all

 

[visionguru]

As a watch/knife collector, I see the exact similarity between luxury tool brands vs regular brands.

Luxury = attention to detail

In terms of performance, do luxury watches/knives/tools always better? NO! Luxury brands are for those people who value certain aspects of them and can appreciate those seemingly minute details.

For example, my $100 atomic CASIO watch is far superior in keeping time, water proof, shock proof. In comparison, my Rolex Daytona cost 100 times as much, not nearly as accurate, not water/shock proof. For someone who can't notice the craftsmanship, buying a Rolex Daytona is plain stupid.

Same as Snap On. The regular store brands are working just as well. There is no substantial differences in performance and quality. It's the small things and brand name make certain group of people like Snap On.

It's perfectly OK never touching a Snap On tool.

 

[orangeblood]

I have touched them but I refuse to caress them.

You, sir, are a funny hombre.

 

[mrbillh]

Like most I was raised on CM, and it helped that Sears was a mile or so from the house. I used a buddy's SO 3/8 ratchet and I was a convert. Still have same CM tool chest, cabinet, and tools EXCEPT for (6) 3/8 SO ratchets. Only recently did I have to replace my screwdrivers. Acetate does not smell the best after 40 years! And they were replaced with Proto's because they feel good in the hand and were a third the price of MacTools.

 

[Richard Cranium]

I own a few snap on tools and a couple of their tool boxes, I also own a lot of other tools. Not a snap on snob. Almost every company makes some of their tools better then the other companies.

 

[ChaseDE]

Just a do it yourself'er here. I have a large bottom and top box full of snap-on tools but they are mostly standard. Most of the cars I own are Japanese or German, so i do probably 90% of my wrench'n with a small craftsman blow molded box set haha.

The snappy's are nice, and they are easily 50 years old, and still work great when I do use them.

 

[DadsTools]

I'm puzzled by the purpose of this thread, Wamsutta. "Who here has never touched a Snap-On tool?" Really?

Why? What's the point in asking? Was it a veiled tactic to instigate yet another Snap-On debate? Unless you've been living under a rock and just joined GJ like 2 minutes ago, you know that's going to happen.

Is it a survey to see how may have or have not?

Is it a snobbish lead-in to, "Well, if you never have, you don't know what you're missing," or something like that?

OK....I've touched a Snap-On tool.

Or maybe because I have, I'm 'disqualified' I'm not supposed to comment on this thread at all???

OK....I've touched a Snap-On tool.

So what?
Now what?

 

[B.S.A. (ret.)]

I'm puzzled by the purpose of this thread, Wamsutta. "Who here has never touched a Snap-On tool?" Really? ...

OK....I've touched a Snap-On tool.

Or maybe because I have, I'm 'disqualified' I'm not supposed to comment on this thread at all???

OK....I've touched a Snap-On tool.

So what?
Now what?

Why am I getting a mental image of Robert DiNiro in "TAXIDRIVER"?

http://cdn3.thr.com/sites/default/f...3/2016/05/taxidriver_1976_deniro_8_h_2016.jpg

"ARE YOU TALKIN' TO ME??????"

 

[DadsTools]

Why am I getting a mental image of Robert DiNiro in "TAXIDRIVER"?

http://cdn3.thr.com/sites/default/f...3/2016/05/taxidriver_1976_deniro_8_h_2016.jpg

"ARE YOU TALKIN' TO ME??????"

1. I have no idea why your mind conjured that image.
2. I was essentially talking to everyone, but the OP in particular. Here too, I am at a loss for the mental processes that conjured this post topic. Although it seems apparent that the purpose was a bit deeper than stated.

 

[metlmunchr]

Nothing wrong with snap on tools but the price. But the price is now to the point where buying them requires some sort of irrational rationalization that just doesn't register in my wallet.

Good example.... No one on the face of the earth makes better hex or torx driver sockets than Bondhus. Made in Minnesota, which was part of the US last time I looked. I needed a set of torx sockets a while back, and bought the Bondhus set covering T8 thru T60 for $80. Checked SO out of curiosity and they've got a set from T8 thru T50 for only $314. Add their T55 and T60 to have the same range as the Bondhus set and you're at 400 bucks.

To each his own, but I wouldn't pay that difference even if the Snappy truck driver had a pair of 36DD's and serviced me as well as my toolbox weekly.

 

[B.S.A. (ret.)]

1. I have no idea why your mind conjured that image.
2. I was essentially talking to everyone, but the OP in particular. Here too, I am at a loss for the mental processes that conjured this post topic. Although it seems apparent that the purpose was a bit deeper than stated.

Sorry if I offended you DadsTools, that was not my intent, I assure you. It was just the implication of your closing remarks: "I touched a Snap-On tool, so what...Now what?" That conjured the "Are you talkin' to me?" image from "TAXI DRIVER" in my mind. Not to worry, my wife tells me all the time that my mind does not function normally, so she just might have something there...

 

[wmm2]

Oh boy look

Another slam the Snappy brand thread.

Actually, I was taking it to lean the opposite way, implying that if you haven't used a Snap-on tool, you don't have the knowledge to criticize. I myself only have 1 or 2 of their tools.

I'm a fan of Wright tools, and buy them ahead of the equivalent SO. The quality seems to be roughly equal, and they cost much less than SO. However, Wright has a more limited selection, so there may be a few more SO tools in my future. It's one of the trade-offs between the two brands. SO delivery is of no value to me, so the only tools I'll get from them are where I can't find a similar level of quality elsewhere.

 

[Road_runner]

I'm a weekend warrior, so no never owned, used or touched a snap-on tool.

My dad was a dealer service manager for a major UK construction equipment brand. His techs had mainly Snap-On, Mac, Teng, Facom and Sealey.

He always thought that Snap-on was over-priced and over-rated - there were lots of tool brands, including most of the others mentioned above, that would do the job just as well. Visionguru hits the nail on the head!

 

[Robert Haas]

If anything is out side of your comfort zone, (price, ego or talent) then by all means stay away from it.

However if it is just that little green monster inside your head that can't ****************, then just keep it to yourself.

If you choose not to buy something that somebody else did,...what the heck gives you the right to say that that person bought something over rated? It is obvious that you and that person are in different levels of acceptability and therefore have completely different views of justification. Value is ultimately in the domain of the person making the purchase.


If you don't see the value, then don't buy it.

The person that did buy it saw the value and put their own, (Not your) money on it.

Why is it a problem for you?

Before all you boys jump in and say it ain't a problem....go back and read what you posted.

 

[Tennessee Cattleman]

I would suggest even if it doesn't belong to you, using a Snap-on Dual 80 ratchet once. Should be on the old bucket list.

 

[visionguru]

If anything is out side of your comfort zone, (price, ego or talent) then by all means stay away from it.
......
If you don't see the value, then don't buy it.
.....
Before all you boys jump in and say it ain't a problem....go back and read what you posted.

You are extrapolating a bit. It has little to do with price/ego/talent.
Nobody needs or has to have Snap On tools to do a job. Mostly people buy Snap On simply because they want to, and are willing to spend 10x as much for 5% better quality, that's it.

 

[PFSard]

I've always been curious about that. I see a lot of recommendations for SK, Wright, Tekton, and Harbor Freight. Makes me wonder if some people have never touched a Snap-on tool.

Up until five years ago (more or less), I hadn't used any Snap-On products. After going to a bunch of estate sales, I now have a bunch, including three toolboxes. Good stuff, but so are any of the other brands I've accumulated. I have yet to purchase any new SO tools (and probably won't); too expensive for the amount I'd use them.

 

[Dingleburry]

Im in mechanical trade, only own snap on pin punches for spring pins and the wire strippers/crimpers. I like both tools but price is hard to justify for me even if in the trade.

Gearwrench and wright wrenches work just fine for me.
Stanley and williams sockets work just fine.
Wera,wiha, pb swiss, knipex.. all work just fine.

Warranty is a bit harder i guess. But work replaces broken/stolen tools with good brands.
So warranty isnt an issue.
Nothin against snap on.

 

[PeterT]

My grand dad purchased several Snap-on tools in the 1940s in Milwaukee WI,, I still use them today,, so yes I use my snap-on 1940s combination wrenches almost every weekend. The same set my grand dad used.

 

[Robert Haas]

You are extrapolating a bit. It has little to do with price/ego/talent.
Nobody needs or has to have Snap On tools to do a job. Mostly people buy Snap On simply because they want to, and are willing to spend 10x as much for 5% better quality, that's it.

Is it not you stating this "spend 10x as much for 5% better quality" ?

I won't even bother getting into your matrix on how you arrived at these metrics but I will say you don't have to do a thing. Let us folks that choose to buy Snap On do so without hearing how you feel about it. It ain't like we are asking for validation from your exaggerated sense of capitalistic prowess. (We ain't)

 

[WhiffySpark]

I love my snapon tools. Even being out of the industry they're sitting in my garage in my epiq toolbox and have no desire to sell any of it.

 

[Cummins_Tech]

Hell, I have a little bit of everything. I get my Matco stuff 40% off through work, but I can tell you, if I didn't, I wouldn't spend a dime on that stuff. Why? Because the dealer that comes to our branch is a POS. Displays incomplete kits for weeks on end, sells tools that you ordered to someone else, EVEN IF ITS A WARRANTY ITEM! after I got screwed on a brand new set of feeler gauges that were rusted right out of the box and he refused to exchange, I told him that it's ok, I'll just use my discount and he'd never get another dime from me. I'll still use my discount through work, as there are a few, FEW, matco items that I would still like to have.

Our SO guy? Excellent. Almost always has what you need, if if he doesn't, bet your *** he'll have it next time, stowed away just for you. Using their Ratchets is like looking at the face of god. And he always gives repeat customers great deals. I got $1600 worth of ratchets and sockets for $500, and my MG1250 for $700 even though it retails for almost $1000, you can't even get a Cornwell or MAC rebrand for that price.

THATS why I prefer dealing with our SO truck over anyone else. The service is bar none. There is no comparison. If you don't have access to that, then no, there is absolutely no reason to pay the premium for that service. If I was just average joe in his two car garage tinkering on stuff every once in a while, no way in hell would I pay for SO. But that's not what I do, I wrench 50-70 hours a week, every week, until I physically can't do it anymore.

With that being said, I love me some gearwrench ratchet wrenches. Won't buy any other brand. And I have a fair amount of bluepoint, craftsman USA, Gray Pneumatic, Sunex, proto, MAC, and a few other name brand professional level tools as well that do great.



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[franzdom]

If I was just average joe in his two car garage tinkering on stuff every once in a while, no way in hell would I pay for SO.

You shouldn't say until you know. I am an average joe in a two car garage and have no problem with Snap-On or any other pro tool.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Don't own a single one, never touched one.

 

[Cummins_Tech]

You shouldn't say until you know. I am an average joe in a two car garage and have no problem with Snap-On or any other pro tool.

Did I say you'd have a problem with them? Pretty sure I didn't. Actually, I'm positive I didn't. What I DID say, what there was no way in hell that "I" would use them in that capacity.

I wrench at home as well, so I think I would "know" what I personally would or wouldn't do in my own shop.


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[jrockford]

I never touched one before. One of these days, I'll give their stuff a try.

I'll probably start with their simple 3/8" ratchet. No swivel head or handle *cover.

 

[jrockford]

Im in mechanical trade, only own snap on pin punches for spring pins and the wire strippers/crimpers. I like both tools but price is hard to justify for me even if in the trade.

Gearwrench and wright wrenches work just fine for me.
Stanley and williams sockets work just fine.
Wera,wiha, pb swiss, knipex.. all work just fine.

Warranty is a bit harder i guess. But work replaces broken/stolen tools with good brands.
So warranty isnt an issue.
Nothin against snap on.

I would find the OEM's for the punches and stripper/ crimpers and buy those. Nothing against Snap On, but I buy OE car parts as opposed to Genuine all the time.

 

[Ryan]

This really is a dumb post... Why someone would have so much passion for or against a brand is beyond me.