Farmer J.
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This old 5/8 hex drive set in a wood box (without a label) is for sale eBay UK , I think I've seen something similar on here before, can anyone recognise it and may be link to more info? Who made it, where and when?!
Who made 5/8 hex drive wood box socket set
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3baygarage
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It’s a German set. Somewhat common. I have trouble remembering the name.
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Private Lugnutz
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I have three sets, J. Two from Spezial Werkzeugfabrik Feuerbach (SWF), and one made by SWF for a NYC importer, Emil Swarz Co., that they sold as the All-in-One wrench set. Click here for photos and lots of details.
Private Lugnutz
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It's not an easy name to remember! And not a common topic. I'm always hesitant to Index my own threads, but I probably should add that one to the next version.
Are you going to buy it? They're a neat set to own. Male drive tang technology is always cool, but that pivoting offset ratchet makes it irresistible.
Are you going to buy it? They're a neat set to own. Male drive tang technology is always cool, but that pivoting offset ratchet makes it irresistible.
I was never going to remember that name! I had been bitten by a venomous insect, had a reaction, taken antihistamine so feeling pretty dopey and a bit miserable so settled down to look at old tools to cheer myself up...
I don't think I will buy it, trying to keep the focus limited to British and American with a personal connection. And there's one or 2 'Superslim' spanners that I don't have yet
Here's the eBay link: £48 to BIN.
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richard dole
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I have a complete set of all in one tools and am wondering how much they are worth.
I would like to sell them
I have attached pictures.
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four.cycle
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Welcome to the site, Mr. Dole. 
Spezial Werkzeugfabrik Feuerbach / Spezial Werkzeugfabrik Feuerbach, GmbH, Feuerbach-Stuttgart, Germany / patent 1629205 May 17 1927 Hans Distler / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/mystery-antique-made-in-germany-socket-set.396059/ / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/who-made-5-8-hex-drive-wood-box-socket-set.483953/
Spezial Werkzeugfabrik Feuerbach / Spezial Werkzeugfabrik Feuerbach, GmbH, Feuerbach-Stuttgart, Germany / patent 1629205 May 17 1927 Hans Distler / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/mystery-antique-made-in-germany-socket-set.396059/ / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/who-made-5-8-hex-drive-wood-box-socket-set.483953/
richard dole
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Made in Germany
Private Lugnutz
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Antique/vintage collectible tools pricing works on the same principle as any other collectible: demand, scarcity, completeness, and condition. These are scarce, and your set is complete and in very good condition, including the decal, which is significant. But there is not a high demand. The guys on this and the other thread here on GJ probably represent the entire market. Despite our interest and passion, it's an obscure brand compared to a Snap-on set from the same era, just to name an easy example, which are just as scarce. Most sellers who aren't in the hobby tend to ignore that part of the equation.
Your best source for data from actual transaction precedence would be eBay. Do an Advanced Search on the name and check off 'Sold Listings'.
four.cycle
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Thanks. I was waiting for you to respond before I said anything at all.
The problem we encounter here is that there is no point of reference, because Ebay wipes the slate clean after ** days (I thought it was 90 days - somebody correct me if they know better.) Consequently, the last "SOLD" listing disappeared some time ago, and searches for "Spezial Werkzeugfabrik Feuerbach" (or "All-in-One", or the other variants I tried) are fruitless.
Unless you're signed up with "Worthpoint" (or one of the other sites that shows what a given item actually sold for) it's anybody's guess.
The bottom line, of course, is that "value" is exactly what a willing buyer is prepared to pay at point of sale.
As noted, it's an item that appeals to a very limited market. On the positive side, you've got all the pieces and the box with the label intact.
BK
(* this is why, on some obscure high ticket items, I have been archiving screen shots of the "bid history" on some sales of oddball pieces. *)
The problem we encounter here is that there is no point of reference, because Ebay wipes the slate clean after ** days (I thought it was 90 days - somebody correct me if they know better.) Consequently, the last "SOLD" listing disappeared some time ago, and searches for "Spezial Werkzeugfabrik Feuerbach" (or "All-in-One", or the other variants I tried) are fruitless.
Unless you're signed up with "Worthpoint" (or one of the other sites that shows what a given item actually sold for) it's anybody's guess.
The bottom line, of course, is that "value" is exactly what a willing buyer is prepared to pay at point of sale.
As noted, it's an item that appeals to a very limited market. On the positive side, you've got all the pieces and the box with the label intact.
BK
(* this is why, on some obscure high ticket items, I have been archiving screen shots of the "bid history" on some sales of oddball pieces. *)
Private Lugnutz
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I'm not much of an eBay guy and I didn't know that. From recollection, these are in that $35 to maybe $75 range that so many obscure sets go for there.
four.cycle
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Private Lugnutz said:
And that dynamic is a contributing factor to the number of new members coming on asking "What can I get for it?", because they are completely in the dark unless they can find a "sold" listing that is still up, or they are willing to pay for the information on a site like "Worthpoint". (I am NOT paying, for the record.)
We're veering off-topic here, but this is a recurrent issue.
I think a good example of this would be the WK3 Gilfillan set that OTG recently acquired, which was originally listed by the ebay seller for about five times what I paid for my WK3 set (well over a year and a half earlier.) He had no starting point, so he just pulled a number out of the sky. No idea what OTG paid, and I'm not sure I want to know.
No idea what the time period is that ebay keeps those "sold" listings up, but it's certainly not long enough for the tool collector market.
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Thanks I'll look onto advance search on eBay, I saw the article on the Worth site but I pursue it.
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richard dole
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I did read that article on the Worthpoint site, it was older and the writer had to find missing pieces to complete his set.
He then sold it on eBay.
It's a cool set but impractical to use by mechanics on a daily use.
Thanks for you info.
four.cycle
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You're quite welcome. Unfortunately when you get into the more obscure and unknown brands and items, there's no point of reference.
Even on more common items, like an S-K 45170 3/8" drive ratchet, actual selling prices can vary wildly- anywhere from $15 to $35, depending upon what a given buyer is willing to pay.
Add to the mix the fact that Ebay buyers are completely crazy. A given item may generate a last-minute bidding war, but the same item listed a week later might languish in the listings for weeks. OR it can happen exactly the opposite way: an item may be repeatedly listed, with the asking price going up and down (over the course of months), and then suddenly get bid up to some insane number. There is no second-guessing Ebay buyers.
Best advice is to do what that seller with that WK3 set did: Start high and work down - no sense in leavin' money on the table, and you (as the seller) always have the option of adjusting the price or listing it as an "OBO" deal.
Now that you found us, you'll want to bookmark
this link
and this link
BK
Even on more common items, like an S-K 45170 3/8" drive ratchet, actual selling prices can vary wildly- anywhere from $15 to $35, depending upon what a given buyer is willing to pay.
Add to the mix the fact that Ebay buyers are completely crazy. A given item may generate a last-minute bidding war, but the same item listed a week later might languish in the listings for weeks. OR it can happen exactly the opposite way: an item may be repeatedly listed, with the asking price going up and down (over the course of months), and then suddenly get bid up to some insane number. There is no second-guessing Ebay buyers.
Best advice is to do what that seller with that WK3 set did: Start high and work down - no sense in leavin' money on the table, and you (as the seller) always have the option of adjusting the price or listing it as an "OBO" deal.
Now that you found us, you'll want to bookmark
this link
and this link
BK