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Looking to buy a new set of wrenches before the holidays, just want some input from you's guys. Never used Wright, am also curious about some of those Japanese wrench sets (KTC in particular), if they put the same work ethic into their tools as well as they do everything else they manufacture they should be a can't miss. How long does the shipping usually take?
 
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Well, don't know if they're sure grip but here they are:

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For the money Wright is hard to beat IMHO. If money is no object, Snap-On quality and accessability to warrantee is good, but they are 3 or 4X the price of Wright. My last few tool purchases have been Wright and I am very happy and I have 100% faith in their ability to perform.
 

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My vote is snap on long thin and stronger then a rampaging bull. Plus if you don't hammer the snot out 'em you should be able to get at least 25% of new on the used market if you ever had to sell them.


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I have some Wright Sure Grip and Wright non sure grip. Sometimes I need to use the non sure grip on old beat up fasterners, because the tolerances of the sure grip are so precise and tight and "grippy".

It does feel reassuring to use Made In USA Wright wrenches on big fasteners. I've had a couple Hecho in Hino wrenches break... not fun.

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My go to's are polished Sk's, comfortable to use and have a tight tolerance around bolts, us made and for a good price. My proto anti-slip non polished 6pt wrenches get plenty of use as well
 

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I have some Wright Sure Grip and Wright non sure grip. Sometimes I need to use the non sure grip on old beat up fasterners, because the tolerances of the sure grip are so precise and tight and "grippy".

Where does one buy Wright tools? :dunno:
 
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For the money Wright is hard to beat IMHO. If money is no object, Snap-On quality and accessability to warrantee is good, but they are 3 or 4X the price of Wright. My last few tool purchases have been Wright and I am very happy and I have 100% faith in their ability to perform.

I've used SO wrenches at work, they're great but not worth the price tag (IMO). I've got it narrowed down to a Wright, SK, Williams (US), or KTC set. Leaning towards Wright because they come with a pouch lol, less that I'll have to shadow in my box.
 
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My go to's are polished Sk's, comfortable to use and have a tight tolerance around bolts, us made and for a good price. My proto anti-slip non polished 6pt wrenches get plenty of use as well

In the process of buying a Proto Challenger set from a guy on here, but am now planning to use those for around the house and my new set at work. The new set is about 3 weeks away though, limited on monies atm.
 

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I have some old Proto wrenches I once bought in an auction lot 15 years ago, before I knew what Protos even were. Prob from the 70's or 80's. Over the years, I've grown to find these are the best wrenches ever and used them whenever I could. Only recently at GJ I've learned how much a premium brand Proto is, and now it all makes sense! Love 'em. Strong, fit tight, and have an almost magical resonance when you really crank on them hard enough to break a lesser wrench, then do the job and move on without even a whimper. - Paul
 

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This topic has been discussed ad nauseam.

Go with what feels right in your hand. Honestly, it hard to find a bad wrench these days.

Like most on here, I have different manufacturers, and some are personal favorites.
I do own a set of the non sure grip Wright wrenches and they do the job. (no denim roll though)
 

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There isn't one that's "best." It all comes down to personal opinion. There are a bunch of good ones from Williams, Wright (and it's WrightGrip, not "wright sure grip"), SK, Armstrong, etc.

Perform search and read more about the different wrenches, see what fits in your budget and go from there.
 
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I would say stahlwille! Because you can beat them up a lifetime and they allways look new! Very thin open end and box end ring! Fits in most places! Very strong!
 

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Where does one buy Wright tools? :dunno:

OnLine Royal Supply
I think Epstein's may have become a Wright dealer (harryepstein.com)

When paying online it might be wise to use a onetime security number or some similar security scheme since data breech could happen.

Might be a good idea to ask if what you are getting is WrightGrip or the older version
WrightGrip refers to the open end style on a combination wrench (that has the box end on the other end),I am not sure if their double end open end wrenches have it -WrightGrip looks a little bit V shaped in the bottom of the gape.
 
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What do you guys think of the cross force or twisted wrenches? Is Snap On the only maker with the ridges in the open end? I'm pretty sold on flank drive plus.

Personally I recommend second hand Snap On. These can be had reasonably and are great tools. Agree new prices are prohibitive. But second hand? They are longer than most and very strong. That said I did good work with craftsman raised panels for many years. They are still in good shape. I wouldn't part with them. But I use Snap On most of the time
 

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Wright for sae USAG made in Italy for metric and Armstrong ratchet wrenches.my choices.wrightgrip over fdp.I have both and prefer wright.Wright have USA and imports.
 
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What do you guys think of the cross force or twisted wrenches? Is Snap On the only maker with the ridges in the open end? I'm pretty sold on flank drive plus.

Cross Force is a good idea and makes for the best wrench comfort you'll find.

Snap-On is not the only manufacturer of that style of open end any longer. Many of the Taiwanese wrenches have begun to do a similar variation. Matco 9 series ratcheting wrenches, and MAC ratcheting wrenches both have teeth + indents.

Wright Grip is just the teeth and as far as I know they're the only ones with a teeth only design.

In my experience the best open ends to really lean into are the Matco/Armstrong design. Snap-On FD+ works excellent as well but chews the hell out of the fastener when you clamp down while the Matco/Armstrong grip about as well and leave almost no damage. The JH Williams open ends are about the same as Matco/Armstrong in their design also, perhaps even better since they have two indents allowing them to work regardless of which way the wrench is. Matco/Armstrong need to be pushed/pulled in the normal direction of rotation because the indents are offset. These designs are fairly straight forward and function on the same principal as a modern socket where it has rounded corners to force off corner engagement. Take away the material where the corners would usually meet torque from the socket and you force it to engage further up the bolt/nut where the material/contact point is more substantial.


I've gone through a lot of wrenches, including a few German. My take is this

The truck brands generally make the longest "standard" wrenches and also offer extra longs that most brands dont. I like a long wrench so this works for me. All the truck brands form really nice box ends on their combos. MAC and Cornwell stand out to me as just looking the cleanest as far as box end forming goes. No measurements to back that up, its just my perception of the quality of the box ends as a whole having owned a few sets. Snap-On and Matco seem to produce a box end with more rounded walls.

You can buy, what i'd call, a boutique brand in the US (Hazet, Stahlwille, Gedore, KTC etc..) but truthfully there is no need. There are just far too many options readily available to us and none of those boutique brands make a wrench that is really superior to any product of the top US brands anyway. Buy those tools because they're unique in where they were manufactured and perhaps unique in cosmetic design (forged offsets/I-Beams/satin finish etc..), but that's about all they have going for them. You're trading away ease of service/replacement for it. Cost is a wash. When i got my Hazet sets the cost was about the same as a new Snap-On set would sell for on ebay. When it comes to innovations in hand tools the US brands are generally ahead of the rest of the world anyway so you're not gaining anything there. Snap-On in particular has a massive wrench catalog that dwarfs most of the competition so if you like to stick to 1 brand then its a no-brainer.

But in the end just buy what you want to use. If you're psyche says you'd really prefer the feel of a german wrench, get a german brand, if you want a US brand, get a US brand. If you just care about keeping the budget down, get a Taiwanese brand. They're honestly all good.
 
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Wright offers larger sets than Snap On for about $80 less ($140 vs $220 on ebay for new wrenches). This is why I stuck with Snap On. If the difference was hundreds, I could see why folks would look to save money. The catalog prices are high, but discounts from the trucks or ebay narrow the gap substantially.

Ok, so my advice is the same as everybody else: Get what you want. I don't think a difference of a $100 on a set of wrenches should deter you (if you have the money obviously). Snap on isn't hundreds more.


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For combo wrenches the snap on flank drive plus are great, for line wrenches snap on no doubt, for angle wrenches snap on again. See a pattern

On the flip side as far as ratcheting wrenches go, gearwrench are tough to beat, the Matco long double box spline drive flex head ratcheting wrenches are nice obviously not made by Matco but sold under there name only as far as I know
 

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Cross Force is a good idea and makes for the best wrench comfort you'll find.

Snap-On is not the only manufacturer of that style of open end any longer. Many of the Taiwanese wrenches have begun to do a similar variation. Matco 9 series ratcheting wrenches, and MAC ratcheting wrenches both have teeth + indents.

Wright Grip is just the teeth and as far as I know they're the only ones with a teeth only design.

In my experience the best open ends to really lean into are the Matco/Armstrong design. Snap-On FD+ works excellent as well but chews the hell out of the fastener while the Matco/Armstrong grip about as well and leave almost no damage. The JH Williams open ends are about the same as Matco/Armstrong in their design also, perhaps even better since they have two indents allowing them to work regardless of which way the wrench is. Matco/Armstrong need to be pushed/pulled in the normal direction of rotation because the indents are offset. These designs are fairly straight forward and function on the same principal as a modern socket where it has rounded corners to force off corner engagement. Take away the material where the corners would usually meet torque from the socket and you force it to engage further up the bolt/nut where the material/contact point is more substantial.


I've gone through a lot of wrenches, including a few German. My take is this

The truck brands generally make the longest "standard" wrenches and also offer extra longs that most brands dont. I like a long wrench so this works for me. All the truck brands form really nice box ends on their combos. MAC and Cornwell stand out to me as just looking the cleanest as far as box end forming goes. No measurements to back that up, its just my perception of the quality of the box ends as a whole having owned a few sets. Snap-On and Matco seem to produce a box end with more rounded walls.

You can buy, what i'd call, a boutique brand in the US (Hazet, Stahlwille, Gedore, KTC etc..) but truthfully there is no need. There are just far too many options readily available to us and none of those boutique brands make a wrench that is really superior to any product of the top US brands anyway. Buy those tools because they're unique in where they were manufactured and perhaps unique in cosmetic design (forged offsets/I-Beams/satin finish etc..), but that's about all they have going for them. You're trading away ease of service/replacement for it. Cost is a wash. When i got my Hazet sets the cost was about the same as a new Snap-On set would sell for on ebay. When it comes to innovations in hand tools the US brands are generally ahead of the rest of the world anyway so you're not gaining anything there.

But in the end just buy what you want to use. If you're psyche says you'd really prefer the feel of a german wrench, get a german brand, if you want a US brand, get a US brand. If you just care about keeping the budget down, get a Taiwanese brand. They're honestly all good.

That's good info thanks. One more question please; what physical features make one wrench better than the next? Lets put aside metallurgy and the size/tolerance of the fits. What about offset angles? Box end head angles?

One thing I didn't initially love about Snap On was their thin x-section (compared to c'man raised panels). They are a little like pulling on a butter knife. I think different makers have very handles.
 

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No one will agree on one brand. I own SO, Mac, SK wright and USA made John Deere combos. I'm not counting rp craftsman. I like all of them. If my tools burnt down tomorrow and I had to buy new, SO, but the wright grips are every bit as good.
 

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Have any of you guys got your hands on the new MAC Knuckle Saver wrenches yet? These are the ones that resemble the Proto ASD wrenches. I'm interested in knowing what you guys think of the new shape and the feel of the new wider beam.
 

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The old Knuckle Savers are great wrenches, but depending on which size you have in your hand, the square beam with its sharp corners can be a problem.
 

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The old Knuckle Savers are great wrenches, but depending on which size you have in your hand, the square beam with its sharp corners can be a problem.

I'm the type that uses fluid film as a hand moisturizer and have no issues with Mac wrenches hurting my hands.
 

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williams super combo is a good one if you like thick beams and long handles
 

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I cast my vote for Snap On, over the years I have put excessive torque on a number of my Snap On wrenches, I haven't had them slip or break. I can't give them enough praise.

Bob
 

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Looking to buy a new set of wrenches before the holidays, just want some input from you's guys. Never used Wright, am also curious about some of those Japanese wrench sets (KTC in particular), if they put the same work ethic into their tools as well as they do everything else they manufacture they should be a can't miss. How long does the shipping usually take?

In general? Probably snap on.

If you're cheap? Craftsman usa (older). Very low rent, low finish but good durability. I'm not a wrench guy though.

I'd say "a wrench is a wrench" as long as it don't round or snap in a thousand pieces but then get 1000 snippy comments about 'nuh uh' so I won't say that. If you're going to use them a lot, get them (at least one) in your hands before you buy a whole set.
 

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I'd ask what you are using them for and what your budget is.

If you're full time mech or a serious home mechanic and can afford the SO stuff, buy it up.
For an occasional guy doing oil changes or working on his mower in his garage, a set of RP Cman wrenches would be fine, but I would only buy if you can still find USA stuff.
 

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Go with what feels right in your hand. Honestly, it hard to find a bad wrench these days.


What he said. Maybe buy a couple of single wrenches used off ebay from different manufacturers and try them out for a bit before committing big money to a full set. Good luck.
 
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In general? Probably snap on.

If you're cheap? Craftsman usa (older). Very low rent, low finish but good durability. I'm not a wrench guy though.

I'd say "a wrench is a wrench" as long as it don't round or snap in a thousand pieces but then get 1000 snippy comments about 'nuh uh' so I won't say that. If you're going to use them a lot, get them (at least one) in your hands before you buy a whole set.

I'm not exactly cheap, but I don't want to spend $300+ on a set of wrenches. As I said before, I think SO wrenches are great, but they're not worth the price tag.

I'd ask what you are using them for and what your budget is.

If you're full time mech or a serious home mechanic and can afford the SO stuff, buy it up.
For an occasional guy doing oil changes or working on his mower in his garage, a set of RP Cman wrenches would be fine, but I would only buy if you can still find USA stuff.

I'm an aircraft mechanic, so I pretty much turn wrenches all day.
 

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I'm not exactly cheap, but I don't want to spend $300+ on a set of wrenches. As I said before, I think SO wrenches are great, but they're not worth the price tag.



I'm an aircraft mechanic, so I pretty much turn wrenches all day.

As an aircraft mechanic, I guess it would be worth it to invest into some good tools as they are what makes you money and you'll be using them for many years in your career.

You don't have to buy them all at once or new, there's nothing wrong with buying good quality used stuff.
 
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