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ManCave

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So I'm doing a brake job on our Toyota and I decide to use the factory tire iron to tighten the lug nuts because I broke my torque wrench. So I pull out the tire iron and the damn thing is only about 12 inches long. Maybe 14 inches long tops. Seriously....who makes a dinky short tire iron anyway? Sheesh! You need leverage when tightening/loosening lug nuts.

So I use the stinkin' little short tire iron to tighten the lugs. Being it was short, I had to pull like an SOB to get the lug nuts tight enough. I just pulled until my testicles hit the back of my throat. I figured that was about equivalent to hearing a click on the torque wrench!
 
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If you are using a torque wrench for tyres, you fail at life. This is the proper tool:

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When I lived in an apartment with few tools and less know how, I used to rotate my tires with the short lug nut wrench that comes in the spare tire kit. Good thing I was young back then!
 

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I use a torque wrench on lugs so that I'll be able to remove them with the cheezy factory wrench if I end up with a flat on the side of the road.
 

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I use a torque wrench to check wheel bearing at 150 foot lbs.
The 26mm wheel nuts are torqued to 125 ft/lbs before every session.
 
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So I'm doing a brake job on our Toyota and I decide to use the factory tire iron to tighten the lug nuts because I broke my torque wrench. So I pull out the tire iron and the damn thing is only about 12 inches long. Maybe 14 inches long tops. Seriously....who makes a dinky short tire iron anyway? Sheesh! You need leverage when tightening/loosening lug nuts.

So I use the stinkin' little short tire iron to tighten the lugs. Being it was short, I had to pull like an SOB to get the lug nuts tight enough. I just pulled until my testicles hit the back of my throat. I figured that was about equivalent to hearing a click on the torque wrench!

So the tool is 12 to 14" long. That's about a foot. If you apply 80 lb of force to the end you will be at 80 ft lb of torque.

So either you are a weak girly man and can barely produce 80lb of force, or you made a major mistake by over torquing your wheel nuts and now have a chance of the stud breaking, or just stripping when you try to remove the nut next.
That is unless you're wheel nuts require torquing over 80-100ft/lb which would only really happen on a truck or heavy machinery.
 

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not using a torque wrench for the proper job is like trying to pull a nail with a ball peen hammer
todays alloy wheels have torque specs.. to tight and you can run the lug nut in to far and ruin the wheel. to loose and the wheel can fall off
 

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If you are using a torque wrench for tyres, you fail at life. This is the proper tool:

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:)

We have one like that at work for tractor trailer tires. Then I use the torque wrench to check to be sure they are 500 ft/lb. They always are. That thing is a beast. Ours is mounted on a cart so you don't have to hold it up all day.
 
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ManCave

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So the tool is 12 to 14" long. That's about a foot. If you apply 80 lb of force to the end you will be at 80 ft lb of torque.

So either you are a weak girly man and can barely produce 80lb of force, or you made a major mistake by over torquing your wheel nuts and now have a chance of the stud breaking, or just stripping when you try to remove the nut next.
That is unless you're wheel nuts require torquing over 80-100ft/lb which would only really happen on a truck or heavy machinery.


LOL. You missed the point.... I posted that post to be humorous. You didn't find any humor in the comment about stopping when your testicles hit the back of your throat? I thought it was rather funny as a sort of redneck torque wrench. Sheesh! LOL.

The longer tire irons are useful when it comes time to change the tire on the side of the road. I can get the lug nuts loose with a short iron but a woman or someone else might not be able to. Its just stupid for a manufacturer to provide that dinky little tire iron. I found it pretty humorous when I saw it. It was one of those WTF moments.

Anyway...the car is going in today to have the tires rotated and balanced which is why I'm not concerned about torquing to specs. Driving the car 5 miles to the shop isn't going to hurt it.
 
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ManCave

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We have one like that at work for tractor trailer tires. Then I use the torque wrench to check to be sure they are 500 ft/lb. They always are. That thing is a beast. Ours is mounted on a cart so you don't have to hold it up all day.

I used to do tires professionally. Split rims, tractor tires, etc. We used to use one of those on the semi trucks.

We used a standard-size impact wrench on cars but I never thought it was a good idea to use when tightening because there was no consistency. But that's what the shop used all the time back then.
 

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That is unless you're wheel nuts require torquing over 80-100ft/lb which would only really happen on a truck or heavy machinery.

We torque wheel nuts anywhere from 125 to 250 ft/lbs depending on nut type and manufactures use on a under 1000 lb race car. All are single nut wheel retention, most common is 150ft/lbs
 

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Funny you should ask, I just warrantied two torque wrenches at Harbor Freight today. Worst warranty replacement process. Pathetic customer service; unprofessional and extremely rude. Not sure where they get their training from. Either they're getting paid bare minimum with very little health benefit(s), or the surrounding town says it all.

Anyway back on topic,
I plan to use a traditional beam-torque wrench to rotate my tires soon.
Torque wrench is especially needed when performing suspension-related work. Cheers :beer:

Sooner or later I plan to invest in a set of micro-click torque wrenches (and will be Made in USA). For now, I'm content with the beam-type, especially since it doesn't require calibration every now and then.
 
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Funny you should ask, I just warrantied two torque wrenches at Harbor Freight today. Worst warranty replacement process. .

My broken torque wrench is a Sears Craftsman which I thought had a lifetime warranty. Now they tell me I have to buy the guts for it to fix it. I will eventually but haven't gotten around to it yet.
 

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As to the original path of the thread, on the submarine we'd call that star-tight: tighten till you see stars.

On the stated thread, motorcyclists.
 

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LOL. You missed the point.... I posted that post to be humorous. You didn't find any humor in the comment about stopping when your testicles hit the back of your throat? I thought it was rather funny as a sort of redneck torque wrench. Sheesh! LOL.

It was funny. Damn funny. I got it. Too bad most of the above still haven't figured out what that giant swoooooshing sound was over their heads.

DC
 

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I pretty much torque everything with a torque wrench. Then again, I don't work flat rate. When techs switch over to flat rate it's more acceptable to put an innocent persons life in danger to make some extra $$$.
 

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How many wheels in the world are checked you figure?
I checked a set for giggles the other day, 18 within 5 percent, 2 within 10, one hi and one low.
 
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The tire stores are the worst. Zip at hi speed on dry threads, asking for galls and seizures. Most have never had splaied how a thread actally works.
My bud has shop next to a tire store, was a constant source of seized nuts.
 
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