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bmxdad

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Making room to pickup my new to me Central Machinery 12x37 gap bed. Been sitting for awhile and mostly used to make wooden bowls :dunno: Guy I'm buying it from, retired Boeing machinist, had it gifted to him from a friend who died, about 15 years ago ... still in the crate. I think it's a 1982 model, but almost zero wear on the ways, which are hardened. Dual voltage, 1 1/2hp motor. All factory tooling and maintenance tools. Guy built a massive bench for it, so I'll have to see if I can level it ... if not, new weld project coming up.
 

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The easiest way to move a lathe is with a forklift....


Second easiest way is with a gantry crane.
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Your helpful engine hoist also makes a good lathe moving tool.
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Pallet jacks are also helpful at times.
 

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Making room to pickup my new to me Central Machinery 12x37 gap bed. Been sitting for awhile and mostly used to make wooden bowls :dunno: Guy I'm buying it from, retired Boeing machinist, had it gifted to him from a friend who died, about 15 years ago ... still in the crate. I think it's a 1982 model, but almost zero wear on the ways, which are hardened. Dual voltage, 1 1/2hp motor. All factory tooling and maintenance tools. Guy built a massive bench for it, so I'll have to see if I can level it ... if not, new weld project coming up.

Nice score. Looks like it has a D1-4 mount and has the Norton gearbox. Should clean up nicely.

Mike.
 

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I picked up this southbend 13" from a trade school along with some attachments for it. I only recently got it wired up. But it's looking like I have to move it to a new location. I would love to know how people move these things from garage to garage
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My 13" South Bend is a 7 foot bed. I have moved it several times with an engine hoist. I pick it right by the headstock using the bed webbing and a strap. I use the saddle then to balance it. Once it is up, lay a couple of 4x4 across the legs of the hoist and lower it until the main column sit on those. Now you can use the hoist as a dolly. I load it on a 16' flat bed trailer to haul.

I picked it down through and under the headstock the first time, but that is a bit too far back to balance.
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That first web by the headstock is about perfect on mine.
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This one came out of a San Antonio Community College maintenance shop. It has almost no wear.
 

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The Millrite moves the same way. Rotate the head until it is upside down resting on the bed to lower the center of gravity. Straps under the main arm. You haven't lived until you've driven a trailer out from under a mill a walked back while it is hanging in the air from an engine hoist. Same drill, a couple of 4x4 across the legs of the hoist, lower it onto those, then wheel it where you want.
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The 4x4 cribbing on this one made it a lot more stable on the trailer.
 

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This one's mine. It's a Colchester 13x36 that I picked up from a guy that used to do our motor work. He had it as long as I can remember and don't know it's history prior to that. Most of the accessories are with it which is nice. I'm hoping to do a bit of a restore on it soon.
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I was fortunate enough to be given this Craftsman 12" lathe by a family friend. He is in his mid-eighties and still very active but hasn't touched the lathe in nearly 20 years. Originally it was going into the garage but we added a guest room / office in the basement and I partitioned off a 9 x 15 workshop.

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Here's mine.

Quick backstory... A few years ago my neighbor down the street (aerospace prototype machinist) was nice enough to invite me into his shop and teach me a few things. I got the metal bug and ever since then, I had been looking for a smaller lathe (due to shop space) that could still hold good tolerances. After spending a lot of time reading up at practicalmachinist EMCO, among others, kept coming up as a good option. It is an Austrian built lathe and they don't come up used very often here in Colorado. I saw the add on Craig's list after looking for almost a year. The prior owner had passed away and his daughter was trying to empty out his house. He was divorced and had set-up shop in the living room. :wtf: I got it for a good deal but getting it out of the house was tough as you can imagine. Moving a machine over carpet and out the front door was a serious challenge. Plus it looked like he hadn't cleaned it since he made the first chip.

It mostly gets used to fab up tools for working on the Norton and it will get a bigger workout when I start digging into the Index Model 40 Mill.

There was some tooling included, 4 jaw chuck, metric threading change gears, etc but I'm always on the lookout for tooling for it as it is much harder to find than say stuff for a SB10.





Cheers,
Chris
 

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You would probably be in the same spot as me. I use it to make small parts Etc for the bikes . It just sits there most of the time but when it is needed boy is it nice as you are making something with all the other parts at hand.
I bought an old atlas table top from a machinist that had it oiled and bagged for the last 30 yrs or so it's awesome.
 

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Picked up the new, to me, lathe, now to figure out how to unloaded it!!

It's a Central Machinery Model DSL-1237GH. Ser # 886855.
It even comes with a lathe accuracy test report with QA and Inspector stamps.
All dated 12/1988

Ways look good too ... and it comes with a factory tool kit and accessories.
 

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Unloaded and set on it's wooden stand and started to clean it up. It's made in Taiwan, not China. Has feed for the cross slide, which I didn't notice before.

Going to be a fun lathe to work on ... :D
 

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So much win with these pictures, I don't know if I can do them justice. My grandson Sylvano learning to use the lathe. Started him off making a copy in plastic of the first test bar I made on a lathe at SPSU over 20 years ago.
 

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So much win with these pictures, I don't know if I can do them justice. My grandson Sylvano learning to use the lathe. Started him off making a copy in plastic of the first test bar I made on a lathe at SPSU over 20 years ago.

PB.....it's great that your grandson is wanting to learn some machining. Most kids today don't want anything to do with something like that. I've been in the Tool & Die trade for over 30 years and have had the opportunity to train quite a few. If he likes it and sticks with it, and becomes proficient in machining, in a few years when he is old enough, he may be able to get into Tool & Die. Some say it's a dying trade, but places are constantly looking for qualified Tool & Die Makers.

If I may make a little suggestion......get your grandson a skid or something to stand on to get him up a little higher and his face away from the lathe. I would hate to hear that a stringer of swarf grabbed him in the face if turning metal, or a chip jump behind his safety glasses and into his eye. I have a BIL that is handicapped because of a lathe accident. A part came out of the lathe and hit him in the head. He has a paralyzed arm, speech impediment, and walks with a limp. It was a freak accident. But even at that, I don't like to see anyones face directly in front of their part they are turning. Just a suggestion. :thumbup::beer:
 

bmxdad

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I was going to mention that too ... make a step to get him a little higher. Controls should be just below the elbows.

Test bar, as in a test to hit a certain diameter?
 

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He just moved in with us a couple of weeks ago and has been really curious about helping me out in the shop with cars and such. Last weekend out of the blue, he asked if we could make something with the lathe.

I actually had him standing on a platform after the pic was taken. I have a dial indicator on the cross slide and he was having a hard time seeing it. I preached working safely and encouraged him to stand to the side of the cutter while running.

I made a bar and then he worked on his. He really got into it and told me I wasn't hitting the dimensions close enough. I was surprised at how fast he took to it. I gave him a quick lesson on using the dial caliper (I know - I just couldn't make him use the old caliper just yet...) and he was measuring like a pro.

The test bar, as I call it, is simply a rod about 6in long with 3 different diameters (.930. .865, and .830 and 1/2-20 threads on the end). It was the first part I made when I took a class (shown in the second picture) in college. Basically yes it's a exercise in hitting the dimensions and uses cutting, facing, parting , and threading.

I ordered the materials to build a wobble steam engine this morning, to see if I can encourage him.
 

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The easiest way to move a lathe is with a forklift....


Second easiest way is with a gantry crane.
clausing_colchester_15.jpg


or

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Your helpful engine hoist also makes a good lathe moving tool.


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Pallet jacks are also helpful at times.

Hi Matt.. Been a while since I have saw you on net. Practical machinist that is..always enjoyed your moving adventures! Jim
 

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1943 Springfield 16" x 56" 10HP 12-speed gear head, circa August 2013:

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The same 5,500-lb monster, circa January 2016:

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(Lightly photoshopped due to all the **** stacked around it, 'til it can be moved into place, :D )

Repairs, beyond the obvious paint n' polish, include fixing/welding all five of the left-end handles, replacing the compound, making two replacement gears and repairing a third (in the gearbox) replacing the tailstock handwheel, adding new feet, welding a crack in the headstock base, replumbing the oil lines, adding an oil filter, replacing the toolpost, rewiring the motor, replacing the cross-slide screw and reworking the nut to be adjustable for slop, replacing any number of missing and damaged oil cups...

... a couple new gearbox bearings, a new cross-slide handle, new apron oil line, new felts, new seal for the oil window, new clamping bar for the tailstock (it has two, one was missing) new parts for the taper attachment, new clutch linkage parts... :D

It's almost done, too. :D

Doc.
 
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1943 Springfield 16" x 56" 10HP 12-speed gear head, circa August 2013:

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The same 5,500-lb monster, circa January 2016:

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(Lightly photoshopped due to all the **** stacked around it, 'til it can be moved into place, :D )

Repairs, beyond the obvious paint n' polish, include fixing/welding all five of the left-end handles, replacing the compound, making two replacement gears and repairing a third (in the gearbox) replacing the tailstock handwheel, adding new feet, welding a crack in the headstock base, replumbing the oil lines, adding an oil filter, replacing the toolpost, rewiring the motor, replacing the cross-slide screw and reworking the nut to be adjustable for slop, replacing any number of missing and damaged oil cups...

... a couple new gearbox bearings, a new cross-slide handle, new apron oil line, new felts, new seal for the oil window, new clamping bar for the tailstock (it has two, one was missing) new parts for the taper attachment, new clutch linkage parts... :D

It's almost done, too. :D

Doc.

Awesome job, Doc!! I love seeing those old beasts brought back to life and saved from the scrapper. Ya done good!
 

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1943 Springfield 16" x 56" 10HP 12-speed gear head, circa August 2013:

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The same 5,500-lb monster, circa January 2016:

shafts14.jpg


(Lightly photoshopped due to all the **** stacked around it, 'til it can be moved into place, :D )

Repairs, beyond the obvious paint n' polish, include fixing/welding all five of the left-end handles, replacing the compound, making two replacement gears and repairing a third (in the gearbox) replacing the tailstock handwheel, adding new feet, welding a crack in the headstock base, replumbing the oil lines, adding an oil filter, replacing the toolpost, rewiring the motor, replacing the cross-slide screw and reworking the nut to be adjustable for slop, replacing any number of missing and damaged oil cups...

... a couple new gearbox bearings, a new cross-slide handle, new apron oil line, new felts, new seal for the oil window, new clamping bar for the tailstock (it has two, one was missing) new parts for the taper attachment, new clutch linkage parts... :D

It's almost done, too. :D

Doc.
That things a beast. Awesome job on the resto.

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Here's mine, a 1949 vintage Logan 400. This is what it looked like when I purchased it a month ago; it's all apart now.

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Here is my Clausing 5914 that I just finished a restoration on. I bought it out of a salvage yard for $100 and now have right at $200 in it total. I can live with that.
 

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I want a lathe. And a mill. And a surface grinder.

Waiting to buy a house first, unless I find a crazy deal that I can't pass up. Then I'll still get it.
 

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I want a lathe. And a mill. And a surface grinder.

Waiting to buy a house first, unless I find a crazy deal that I can't pass up. Then I'll still get it.

I have been buying up a few Bridgeport mills over the last year since I retired. They operate, but I will also be restoring them as time allows. I ran a surface grinder for close to 30 years, and love doing it, but it is hard to justify the dedicated space for one here at home. I don’t see that it would get used much. I acquired a flywheel grinder that I could use similar to a Blanchard grinder if needed, I guess.
 

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Just purchased a restored 1957 south bend 16”x 48” - can’t wait to get back to house Saturday morning.
 

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Some nice machines and good to see them still in use. I attended South Bend Service school back in 1979 when they were still in business. Very good basic machines.
I have a SBL 10k that was rebuilt a few years before I bought it and a 1955 Round Ram Bridgeport for $700 shipped. I rebuilt the J-head that is on the Mill years before so I knew it was in good shape and has a riser block installed. I have a 612 Boyer schultz surface grinder that works but I have to find a lead screw and nut for it. Combined with my press and cleaning system I can rebuild corvette differentials, boxes, and IRS parts in my home shop.
 

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Wow...the Rivett...COOL!! I looked at a Rivett Tool & Gage that some riggers had in Toledo but the bed was soooo badly worn....they thought I was a snake oil salesman using a DTI to trace the tailstock ways from the carriage. Off the scales at over .040" of travel....
 

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I’ve been looking for a lathe on and off for a while, haven’t bought one yet because I keep seeing the deals everyone gets on them. I usually miss out or can’t find the deals. Maybe one day.
 

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My son and I bought and were given a bunch of industrial items from a closing manufacturing facility about a year ago. There was a Colchester 17” long bed lathe in the maintenance dept. that they wanted $3000 for. By the end of the week, only the plant manager was left, along with the lathe. He offered it to us for free to load it and remove it. We talked about it and passed on it due to the timetable required for removal, the weight of it, and the fact that we had two shops already full of equipment, with nowhere to put it, since we had taken so much other stuff already. It was also 440 volt. Sad, but sometimes you have to be realistic.
 

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Here's my 1933 South Bend 9". I do all of the work on our cars (old Subarus, an antique Dodge Brothers) and have had many occasions to machine up various diameter cylinders for press fixtures, etc.
 

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Thx Matt it is a joy to run. Weight is around 5000lb
For a 10x20 lathe it doesn’t move!
Mine has some wear near headstock but nothing I can’t compensate for, maybe .003 taper??
 

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Last summer I picked up a Sheldon UM-56 lathe for $425.00. It was caked with dirt. After getting it cleaned up a bit, I started snooping and found a new quick change tool post and tool holders in the end cabinet. All said and done I had to clean it up and make 1 gear for the feed reverse. It runs like a dream.
 

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Here's my 15.75 x 40 Webb. Good machine. Kondia mill. Bought both together 20 years ago for $8k from a old man who was so happy to see them going to a good home that he threw in $50k worth of tooling. He didn't have long to live but he made the drive a couple of months later to see them set up and running.
The happy look on his face was worth a lot. He'd poured a lot of his life into those tools. It's hard to 'leave' these someone as a family heirloom.
 

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I always have a few around.

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