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isb cornbinder

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I have a MYFORD SUPER 7 and a 16 inch South Bend. I use both of them.
 

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GypsyR

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12x48 Atlas/Craftsman. Retired from a machine shop with a badly worn bed and other issues that I have mostly rectified. (Worn cross slide and lead screw, missing covers, etc) Still working on it from time to time and it's always been ready to work.
 

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Never saw this thread... I have an oddball lathe I picked up a couple months ago. Needed a little work and a ton of cleaning.

Here she is: Cazeneuve HBX 360




Its a reeves drive variable speed unit that is hydraulic driven. Threading to a stop. Uses a worm gear and you can pick up on a thread anytime (no dial). The downside...its French ;)
 

jetlag

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Those Cazeneuve HBX lathes are outstanding machines. Complex, and a little fussy, but when they're running good, they're capable of repeating very tight tolerances. If the hydraulics are working, it was a very good score. That's comparable to a Monarch 10ee.
 

8mpg

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I was kinda running. I saw the chuck move before there was a giant spark from somewhere and we shut it off. It has the typical leaking variators which is what I am fixing now. My brand new rotary phase converter came with a bad motor so I cant fire it up until I get the motor back.
 

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All of you all have real lathes. I bought an older Shoptask 3 in 1 mill,drill,lathe. It's smaller and doesn't take up a lot of space. It is very handy though. I can chuck up a brake drum or rotor and clean it up. Plus, I have made a spin on oil filter adapter for my old tractor and a power beyond manifold to add a hydraulic cylinder to the three point hitch. Lots of other things too.

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tcianci

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I use the heck out of my 9x20 HF unit. Worth what I paid (right at $500) even with it's limitations. If I had known how much I would use it, I would have bought (and will one day) a 12x36 model like the Grizzly 4003G.
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You would also do well to have one of these in your arsenal of tools. Or something similar.
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G0519 3 phase square column mill-drill.

>The thing is I NEVER intended to put a crank on one when I got them, but as you use
>these things more you see more and more possibilities.




THIS ^^^^ !!!!

I started modifying some #6 AN fittings to use braided steel hose for transmission lines on my race C4 3 speeds. Now, thanks to my bitty lathe I have sold my humble little parts all over the world.


I picked up a mill like that too. Mine is a MSC Chinese machine, It probably had all of 20 hours on it when I got it. Worth it's weight in gold.
 

zmotorsports

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All of you all have real lathes. I bought an older Shoptask 3 in 1 mill,drill,lathe. It's smaller and doesn't take up a lot of space. It is very handy though. I can chuck up a brake drum or rotor and clean it up. Plus, I have made a spin on oil filter adapter for my old tractor and a power beyond manifold to add a hydraulic cylinder to the three point hitch. Lots of other things too.

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I started out with a Smithy 3-in-1 machine that I used for making custom motorcycle, ATV, snowmobile and race car parts. It did take up less space than the traditional mill and lathe and had some limitations but I had it for over 17 years and make a lot of parts and money with it before selling it and purchasing a 13x40 lathe and 9x35 knee mill about 4+ years ago.
 

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The only downside I know of with the 3-n-1 machines is rigidity of the milling arm. But - that applies in some degree to a lot of machines. Doesn't mean you can't make parts LOL.
 

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The only downside I know of with the 3-n-1 machines is rigidity of the milling arm. But - that applies in some degree to a lot of machines. Doesn't mean you can't make parts LOL.

Agreed Chris. I didn't use mine as much for milling as I did to turn things on the lathe for this reason. It worked but not ideal, especially combined with it being a round column and it's inherent issues.

No way would I trade my standalone lathe or knee mill but a lot of work can be done on the 3-in-1's if taking those things into account.
 

matt_i

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Some friends of mine...

Monarch CK 14x30


Monarch 10EE


Monarch EC


Mazak 10N


And a project machine having some dimensional inconsistencies...waiting on the new part of the shop to be finished so it can be torn down for a bed grind, turcite, scraping, etc.

Monarch 13" (x 30")
 

Hdonly0

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The only downside I know of with the 3-n-1 machines is rigidity of the milling arm. But - that applies in some degree to a lot of machines. Doesn't mean you can't make parts LOL.

That is a problem I have run into. Also, if milling smaller parts, you end up with the quill all the way down, or as you see in my picture, stack the part up on top of a big block of material. I have thought about moving the mill section to a separate stand built heavy enough to handle it. I got an older Troyke 15" cross slide table for next to nothing. That's what got me started thinking about doing this.

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Most people think 3 phase is way harder than it is. You can get 10x more machine for probably the same or less, even including powering it up. If you have the space, there's no replacement for rigidity and hp. If you can power regular 220V, 3 phase is just as easy and not much more money. Chances are you can find nicer equipment for less and use the difference to convert the power.
 

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Most people think 3 phase is way harder than it is. You can get 10x more machine for probably the same or less, even including powering it up. If you have the space, there's no replacement for rigidity and hp. If you can power regular 220V, 3 phase is just as easy and not much more money. Chances are you can find nicer equipment for less and use the difference to convert the power.

I agree. The average Joe sees something as 3 phase and walks away. I bought a couple large air compressors, my Mill and my surface planer pretty cheap because they were all 3 phase.
 

brownbagg

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i got an atlas, dont really know what it is, been in the corner of the shop the last twenty years


update: its a 56 bed
 
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Plastikosmd

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Nice machines Matt
I would love to get my rivett ground by a pro but nobody around (that I can find)
 

86turbodsl

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Most people think 3 phase is way harder than it is. You can get 10x more machine for probably the same or less, even including powering it up. If you have the space, there's no replacement for rigidity and hp. If you can power regular 220V, 3 phase is just as easy and not much more money. Chances are you can find nicer equipment for less and use the difference to convert the power.

It's not the 3 phase i'm blown away by. Just the size of the machine and the footprint it takes up. Most of my stuff is 3 phase in fact. I agree pennies on the $.
 

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I agree. The average Joe sees something as 3 phase and walks away. I bought a couple large air compressors, my Mill and my surface planer pretty cheap because they were all 3 phase.

Most issue I see is that some of it is "oil field" 480v stuff. You could spend more on changing the drive system than the equipment. I don't have to space, but sometimes you see stuff that you just "Hmmmmm" about. :thumbup: I knew of a deal on a Storm-Vulcan Block Master in great shape, fairly cheap. No place to put it!
 

8mpg

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Im one of those people that didnt know enough about three phase until now. I just installed a rotary phase converter. $850 for 10hp motor. Should run the lathe/surface grinder/mill/etc.
 

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I've had this since 2003 and it now wears a Newall DRO with CSS



And I've been working on this since..well before 2000. I got it cheap NZ$500 and it wasn't going and was missing quite a few bits. It's taken a long time to acquire the missing parts...……..mostly off ebay. I've only ever seen one other in New Zealand.







I'm powering it with a VFD


Since 2003 I've added a Mill Drill to the workshop, mainly because I haven't figured out how to get the Bridgeport into the workshop (plus I don't have the room yet.

 

Maui

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I got this 16” South Bend Lathe running just last night. It is the largest lathe that I own (and I have many). It is incredibly well built, and runs as smooth as silk. From what I can tell it was manufactured in 1917, which makes it just over 100 years old. I still need to put some feet on it and level it up, make some fine adjustments, etc. but it should be a pleasure to use. And it came with a boatload of tooling too.

Maui
 

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RBarnes

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Just acquired a Logan model 1957 11" lathe. Should probably wait before asking till I get a little more familiar with what I have and how to use it, so please excuse my enthusiasm.

The lathe does not have many accessories with it. Was wondering who out there has extra parts for sale or trade?

I do not have a 4 jaw chuck, collets, steady post rest, any of the wrenches, manuals, or a light.

Would appreciate any recommendations. Thanks!
 

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I've been in my house since I built it in 84, when I sold my shop I brought home my Hendy Lathe and my turn right Mill, the mill was single phase but the Hendy was 3 phase and there was no 3 phase on my street. At the time I toyed with either a phase converter or a single phase motor, I ended up with a good deal on a motor so went that route. Last fall, they put 3 phase past my house, too bad I'm too old for more big tool purchases :beer: that and I've run out of room.
 

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Learning to run a lathe and mill has long been a bucket list item for me. About 5 years ago, a buddy was liquidating his father's stuff and I picked up a 9x36 South Bend built in 1935. It was fairly well equipped, but I have added a modern toolpost and some other bits. It is quite worn, and doesn't have much power. It struggles with steel. I've learned a lot running it, and have made some useful stuff but I really want a new, bigger lathe with no wear and more power. Also fell into a deal on a 9x43 Sharp milling machine (Taiwanese clone of a Bridgeport). It's in great shape and has been a barrel of fun....
 

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RBarnes

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Just acquired a Logan model 1957 11" lathe. Should probably wait before asking till I get a little more familiar with what I have and how to use it, so please excuse my enthusiasm.

The lathe does not have many accessories with it. Was wondering who out there has extra parts for sale or trade?

I do not have a 4 jaw chuck, collets, steady post rest, any of the wrenches, manuals, or a light.

Would appreciate any recommendations. Thanks!

Cleaning up my 11" logan lathe I see the back gear has a couple of teeth missing. Was wondering if anyone has one of these for sale?
 

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I've had my Grizzly G4003G 12x36 gunsmithing lathe for a couple years now, but I couldn't resist joining the parade.

This pic is when it was brand new.

The stool is just for scale.

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I scooped an atlas TH42 + some tooling to get me started in a new hobby earlier this winter. Complete beginner. Looking to learn. Too many projects!
 

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yeldogt

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I'm a woodworker -- so mine is a wood lathe.

What do you guys use the metal lathes for --- if just for a hobby?
 

Aaron_W

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Just acquired a Logan model 1957 11" lathe. Should probably wait before asking till I get a little more familiar with what I have and how to use it, so please excuse my enthusiasm.

The lathe does not have many accessories with it. Was wondering who out there has extra parts for sale or trade?

I do not have a 4 jaw chuck, collets, steady post rest, any of the wrenches, manuals, or a light.

Would appreciate any recommendations. Thanks!

Logan still supplies parts, but they are not cheap.

http://www.lathe.com/

Most watch ebay or craigslist for parts and accessories. Logans were very popular so parts and pieces are pretty common on the used market. I think the 11" can use many of the same accessories as the 10" models.

Still having new parts available from the company is a very nice thing. They are also quite helpful with technical advice.


A 4 jaw chuck is not specific to the lathe, you just need to get the right backing plate to fit your spindle (you probably have a threaded 2-1/4"-8 or L00 spindle). You can get a cheap import 6" 4 jaw for less than $200, a used Buck, Bison or other quality chuck will probably run you more like $400-600 and new is probably more than you paid for the lathe (a new Buck 6", 4 jaw runs around $1100).


I'm a woodworker -- so mine is a wood lathe.

What do you guys use the metal lathes for --- if just for a hobby?

From what I've seen, mostly parts for the lathe. :)

Actually I've seen a lot of neat stuff people have made, pens, motors, model parts, replacement machinery parts.

I'm finding it is one of those things you don't know you need, until you have one, and then you find all kinds of cool things to do with it.

If you have a metal lathe and milling machine of sufficient size, you can literally make almost anything given the time and skill (sadly I am lacking in both of these, but working on it :p ).
 
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