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Who's Making Proto's "Made in USA" Adjutable Wrenches Now?

PretendMechanic

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I'm looking to upgrade my 6", 8", 10", and 12" adjustable wrenches and would like to get my hands on those good old ones made by Western Forge. So naturally, I decided to go with Proto.

This was always my plan, decided a millenia ago, I never got around to it.

I recently however learned that Western Froge was shut down and bought out by IDEAL...

So who's making Proto's USA made adjustable wrenches now?

Their website still says made in the USA. Are they all old stock Western Forge? I read the plant closed in 2020...

If a new manufacturer, is there any way to identify the old Western Forge produced wrenches?

sidenote: I can't remember, are Proto's CLICK-STOP worth it? Do they all eventually fail? If so, do they work just fine like a non CLICK-STOP once failed, or is a damaged CLICK-STOP wrench less functional than a non CLICK-STOP wrench?
 
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If that's true (whick makes sense) that does ****.

Can anyone confirm if they are now made in Spain?

If so, I'm guessing by Irega or Bahco?

The 6", 8", and 10" I was looking to upgrade are Channellock's WIDEAZZ which are actually Iregas. I ripped the "code blue" handles off them to turn them into good old regular steel wrenches.
 

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I have a bunch if different adjustable open end wrenches. They all work well.

a guy at work has a Proto click stop and I really like it, Been looking to get 1 or 2 ! Ok 4 but that’s it…
 

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I bought a big boy Proto 24” adjustable wrench a few years ago. Never used it. Just wanted to have one on hand. Glad I did, it’s US-made 😀

also bought a 10” SK adjustable wrench a few years ago, also US made. Also never used it 🤣

I just really like my knipex pliers wrenches but I feel like I should have crescent wrenches on hand. I almost bought the newish wide jaw 12” snapon until I saw the made in Spain tag.
 

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Honestly, the Iregas are way better than WF. I have adjustable wrenches by pretty much everyone but Snap On, and the Iregas are the best. This includes Bahco, etc.

Irega adjustables are better in some ways, but not in every way. I own quite a few Irega and Western Forge adjustables, from 4" up to 18" in size. Irega movable jaws have a lot less up-down and side-to-side play when compared to my Western Forge adjustables. That is not always good though. If you are doing a job that gets your tools dirty or muddy, a Western Forge adjustable will be less likely to jam up with dirt, but in a clean environment the Irega mechanism will feel higher quality and more refined. The Iregas also often have metric and SAE measurements printed on the slides, and the handles tend to be a little more comfortable as well, because they are wider and flatter across the top so there's more area to push against with your hand.

Iregas have gone down noticeably in quality though, mainly since covid and the demise of Western Forge. Older Iregas had nice shiny smooth chrome on the sides of the jaws and better overall finishing. The newer ones have visible machining marks and what looks like vapor blasted chrome instead of shiny smooth chrome on the flat surfaces. More out of alignment adjustables seem to be making it off the line too. Top and bottom jaws that don't align perfectly side-to-side when the jaws are closed, jaws that have been mistakenly ground at a slight angle compared to the line of the handle, slide channels that are very thin on one side and very thick on the other, handles that have a slight curve to them from the factory, etc. Stuff that might not affect function, but that sort of visible garbage drives me crazy. The last Irega adjustable I bought was one of the 8" thin jawed ones, where the entire jaw is 3/16" thick. I had to buy three of them online just so I could end up with one that I found to be acceptable. That isn't just an Irega problem, but it's quite rare that I have an issue with a Knipex product or even a Taiwan made product, so they could do better if they wanted to.

For the same size adjustable, Iregas will usually open wider for most models, but they also often have narrower jaws than their Western Forge equivalents. That's partly why I own a mix of both. Iregas for tighter areas, work in clean environments, and for narrower fitting access. Western Forge adjustables for brute force tasks, work in dirty environments, and for grabbing fittings made out of softer materials like brass or aluminum, because their wider jaws help spread out the force better and reduce localized deformation of a fitting.

I would choose my Western Forge adjustables if I had to pick, because I find them perfectly acceptable and they are physically stronger. Online testing videos show them to consistently be around 30-50% stronger than Iregas before they distort or fail. That matters to me, but for someone like a homeowner who just wants an adjustable for occasional use it likely won't matter much.

Lastly, it's not true of all of them that were made, but my relatively modern WF adjustables have jaws that were ground a couple degrees out from each other, so the tips touch before the base of the jaws touch when the jaws are completely closed. That means even if the jaws do flex a little bit while cranking on them, they will end up parallel and still have a strong hold on a fastener instead of opening up wider than parallel and losing grip on the fitting more easily, like Iregas and most other adjustable wrenches that start out with jaws that are perfectly parallel. It appears that Knipex is now doing the same thing with their newer style pliers wrenches. Their original pliers wrenches had perfectly parallel jaws from the factory (I own several), and the lighter "2.0 version" pliers wrenches I bought recently all came with jaws that touch at the tip first and leave a small but noticeable gap at the base of the jaws.
 
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I think Bahco and Snap On are made in Spain by Irimo.
Irega is different. I think they make them for Channellock and some other manufacturers too.

I heard the Japanese Lobtex Lobster is really good too.
 

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I just got a whole set of Proto non-Clik-Stop and Clik-Stop wrenches. They are made in Taiwan now.

Any place stating a COO of the United States will either cancel your order or substitute with the Taiwan made wrenches.

They seem good to me.
 
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I agree with Tools4Me that Irega/Channellock adjustable wrench quality/quality control has gone down. I often have to buy multiples and pick a keeper. The 10" Channellock/Irega WIDEAZZ I recently bought is not as well manufactured and finished as the 8" I bought about a decade or more ago.

Seeing as how tool quality keeps decreasing as time goes by, I'm trying to get the good old fashioned USA made stuff while I still can. I hate replacing tools, I hate replacing anything. Corporations love it. We are going backwards in terms of progress, for the shareholders.

I wish I was old enough at the time when Craftsman products meant real USA quality and I could have built my collection of tools to last a lifetime. Unfortunately I wasn't around for that era.
 
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I just got a whole set of Proto non-Clik-Stop and Clik-Stop wrenches. They are made in Taiwan now.

Any place stating a COO of the United States will either cancel your order or substitute with the Taiwan made wrenches.

They seem good to me.

Thanks for the info.

Curious though, why a full set of both CLIK-STOP and regular?

Why not one or the other?
 

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Ironworker here. We love the Klein spud crescents but they are serious money ($80 for the 15 inchers). The Crescents at Home Depot are ALMOST as good for half the price. Hell, even the Chinese ones for $15 at TSC aren't half bad!
 

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For what an adjustable wrench is used for I've been able to round nuts and bolts off with the cheapest of the cheap! All joking aside I do like my channel lock 8 incher. It's the wide thin jaw. Also love my Snap on flank drive set. I've left teeth marks on some pretty tough nuts and bolts with them without slipping. I've actually broken good half inch bolts that wouldn't loosen with a ten incher more than once. I'd say for an open wrench that's good enough, let alone an adjustable! I've got up to a 30 inch Snap on at work for really big stuff! It opens to somewhere around 3 inches I believe. Just the weight of it alone will scare something loose! Haha
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Seeing as how tool quality keeps decreasing as time goes by, I'm trying to get the good old fashioned USA made stuff while I still can. I hate replacing tools, I hate replacing anything. Corporations love it. We are going backwards in terms of progress, for the shareholders.
Thats why I spend time researching useful tools that I don’t need now but will likely need in the future as I expand my skills and what I do. I feel like lots of stuff is getting worse over time.
 
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You can still the Klein spudnut style made in the USA.

Cool to know.

Honestly... am I missing something? Why aren't all adjustable wrenches spud wrenches?!? At least the other end is doing something productive.
 

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Could you please elaborate on why Irega’s are the best?

Tightest fitting jaw. Which is what I judge "best" by. They certainly don't miss on strength or overall finish also. I only have two and they are 3+ years old. But they are an order of magnitude better than my WFs, and everything else, as far as slop. Of course, the WFs are also fine, but not as tight. I have vintage 1970s Williams USA (not WF), WF, Engineer, Bahco, 1990s Fuller and Truecraft from Japan.... pretty much everything but Snap On. And the Iregas have the best fitting jaws. If you search and read up on this, it's been discussed many times, the Iregas are always at the top of the list.
 

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Tekton is lacking adjustable wrenches in their lineup. Ive been wondering if they have considered making a CNC version in the USA.
 

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Cool to know.

Honestly... am I missing something? Why aren't all adjustable wrenches spud wrenches?!? At least the other end is doing something productive.
standard beam style is lighter for a given strength, and nicer to the hand when puting torque on. it also doesn't work as well as a hammer. The lack of a hole to hang it up or tie a line to are also drawbacks.
 

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Tekton is lacking adjustable wrenches in their lineup. Ive been wondering if they have considered making a CNC version in the USA.
I'm actually ok with Tekton not making adjustable wrenches. I believe they're enough adjustable wrench options out there for me. I know I am going to get crucified for saying this.
 

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I think Bahco and Snap On are made in Spain by Irimo.
Irega is different. I think they make them for Channellock and some other manufacturers too.

I heard the Japanese Lobtex Lobster is really good too.
I don't see much similarity, but maybe the tooling is completely different for both lines.
 

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I was reading somewhere that Martin Tool was looking into picking up American adjustable wrench production, but ultimately decided not to because the adjustment nut is too complex/expensive to machine here and they didn’t want a mix of American/offshore production. It is both sad and pathetic to me that we can’t even make a simple adjustable wrench in this country anymore. I also don’t understand why other tool companies didn’t capitalize on the Western Forge auction. Entire lines for screwdrivers, pliers, and wrenches were sold off dirt cheap. A company like Tekton could have scored big, and answered the demand for American made tools.
 

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I was reading somewhere that Martin Tool was looking into picking up American adjustable wrench production, but ultimately decided not to because the adjustment nut is too complex/expensive to machine here and they didn’t want a mix of American/offshore production. It is both sad and pathetic to me that we can’t even make a simple adjustable wrench in this country anymore. I also don’t understand why other tool companies didn’t capitalize on the Western Forge auction. Entire lines for screwdrivers, pliers, and wrenches were sold off dirt cheap. A company like Tekton could have scored big, and answered the demand for American made tools.
Looking at what was for auction, it was a bunch of machines at or past the end of their useful life. (I assume ideal kept anything modern, and moved it before the auction.) maybe okay if you're already running them, but not well suited for stting up a new factory. Someone here reported it all sold, and most got removed by riggers and not scrap dealers, so it probably did get reused, or used to keep other stuff going.
 

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Looking at what was for auction, it was a bunch of machines at or past the end of their useful life. (I assume ideal kept anything modern, and moved it before the auction.) maybe okay if you're already running them, but not well suited for stting up a new factory. Someone here reported it all sold, and most got removed by riggers and not scrap dealers, so it probably did get reused, or used to keep other stuff going.
I wouldn’t say past their useful life. Most of that stuff can live forever as long as it’s cared for and someone has the knowledge to rebuild it. I agree though, setting up a new factory with old machinery like that would have its challenges. But then again, it couldn’t be much worse than SBD trying to set up a Craftsman factory with all new technology…
 

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I feel very fortunate that 8 years ago I bought a couple of Proto clic stops.Don't use them often,but I know they are a quality product and will get the job done without any issue.IMO thats another reason to research and buy quality tools.
 

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I wouldn’t say past their useful life. Most of that stuff can live forever as long as it’s cared for and someone has the knowledge to rebuild it. I agree though, setting up a new factory with old machinery like that would have its challenges. But then again, it couldn’t be much worse than SBD trying to set up a Craftsman factory with all new technology…
The new technology makes a lot of things easier. In cutting edge mfg spaces, you'd be stunned just how little human activity there is. Robots and automation. Cheaper AND better.
 
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