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I am thinking about getting a workbench as my adjustable desk. The width and height are not a problem. But the usual depth is only 24 inches. The gladiator one is 25. But I don't think 24/25 works well because after monitor and keyboard, mouse, there's nothing left for my elbow. Need at least 29 inches. I am wondering whether anyone can help me find a suitable workbench? Thanks [emoji120]

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Whoops sorry about the reply! I had 2 post open at the same time.
 
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I'm seeing quite a few >24" tops on steel workbenches.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0764H2HKL/?tag=atomicindus08-20

although I can't speak for the quality. I admit that the wood-topped tables appear to be limited in width.

As an aside, pallet racking is the bomb for garages if you have the room. I found some 6 foot ends and 10' or so cross pieces, plus underlying 2x's, for $100. Strong as can be, wide, and you just attach a sacrificial top to the thing.
 

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It seems to be the standard in general.

The only benefits I can imagine are being able to reach the whole bench from any position and taking up not too much more room than a toolbox.

I find it annoying, because it's so damned hard to get a good table that I've got Gladiator benches in my office... But they're only 24" deep, which is a bit of a hassle.

At least they don't ****, though.
 

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Another decent source for a home office is to keep an eye out (on Craigslist typically) for older drafting tables. Unlike the proverbially cheap Snap-on toolchests, these actually seem to show up now and again.

I've got a motorized Steelcase that was sub $100 from that source that's pretty heavy duty.
 

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It takes some work and forethought to figure how deep a workbench YOU can use - I started with a pair of sawhorses and some wood to figure height, then started with a 4x4 sheet of scrap OSB and whittled it down until I found what would work for me.

I ended up then building the bench out of 4x6's, 2x6 top, then a sheet of 3/4" oak hardwood plywood on that as a work surface. I think it's 34-36" deep by the width of the wall length minus a space to store my oxy/acetylene tanks. Heavy as hell and I can work on engines on top of it. It ain't going nowhere until I say it's going... :D
 

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Its what you make it but I got cousins just build a little pole barn. Seems huge to them compared to a 2 car garage, a whopping 10 ft more. Turns out its not as big as it looked and now we wanna add on.
But 2 ft simply fits better in residential stuff. I got a Steelcase desk. Would take up 1/2 a stall in a small garage,,, ha
 

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Actually, from a computer ergonomic standpoint, its probably too deep. I am working on a 24" deep desk, and the screen is too far away from where my eye doctor says it should be. But that's a story for another day.

Raise the monitor up (put a bridge under it), and you may get by with 24" at your desk.
 

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24" deep top suits me just fine as long as you have a heavy duty keyboard/arm support surface that pulls out on drawer slides. That way it is only deeper when it needs to be.
 

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Actually, from a computer ergonomic standpoint, its probably too deep. I am working on a 24" deep desk, and the screen is too far away from where my eye doctor says it should be. But that's a story for another day.

Raise the monitor up (put a bridge under it), and you may get by with 24" at your desk.

You pick your monitor for your distance, just like your TV, and adjust the resolution to an appropriate level.
 

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Or get computer glasses for your preferred distance, and keep the killer resolution.
 

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I’ve been using a 24x48 folding table with two monitors, a full keyboard, mouse and a tablet for work from home for the last 6 months. It works just fine.
 
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Wait, so your using a work bench as a desk and complaining it’s to narrow?

A work bench deeper than 24” is a storage place for junk and always a has been.

You can go back more than a hundred years ago and read about work bench design for woodworking and general use and height varies to the user (usually the users base of thumb with hands at the side) but almost universally agree that over 24” deep is not a good thing.
 

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Wait, so your using a work bench as a desk and complaining it’s to narrow?

A work bench deeper than 24” is a storage place for junk and always a has been.

You can go back more than a hundred years ago and read about work bench design for woodworking and general use and height varies to the user (usually the users base of thumb with hands at the side) but almost universally agree that over 24” deep is not a good thing.
I made the mistake years ago to make my bench 36" deep. It accumulates "stuff' and also too far to reach to get to the wall to hang things.
 

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Because every square inch smaller the surface, the cheaper it is to make. Like everything else that has gotten smaller...
 

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I tend to agree, which is why I built mine 30” deep. It just makes life easier.
 

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Actually, from a computer ergonomic standpoint, its probably too deep. I am working on a 24" deep desk, and the screen is too far away from where my eye doctor says it should be. But that's a story for another day.

Raise the monitor up (put a bridge under it), and you may get by with 24" at your desk.

You need a new eye doctor as that is completely backwards "for most people" if that was implied as a general rule. It causes far less eye strain to sit further away from a larger monitor, have a longer focal point which your eyes are used to and used for most other activities, even if the effective viewing angle ends up the same.

Granted if the budget or desk width/free-space requirement limits the monitor size, you don't want pixels so small you can't see things, more a matter of certain uses than OS elements that scale with vector elements.

Get as deep a desk as will fit the area then as large a monitor as needed to get an optimal field of vision which is the range your eyeballs feel comfortable moving rather than having to turn your head at all. On a ~30" desk with the monitor at the back, that's at least 32", smaller being tolerable at 1080p but larger at 4K would be an upgrade *if space allows*.
 

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Why not get a workbench and add a slide out or folding shelf to the front?

Definitely one option and may be a good choice to hide away a keyboard if not typing much, or possibly to keep optimal wrist angle if typing an extreme amount, but could be a bit involved to set up if the front lip of the workbench isn't accommodating (I suppose a shim or custom drop-brackets could be made considering the audience) to a standard straight-frame-rail keyboard tray.

Even then, YMMV but I prefer to keep an area on the top surface for mousing. If it's to be used as a workbench (work area) too, that might result in too much debris to use a mouse in, but in that case there is a problem with a lower level keyboard tray too as the debris will tend to fall down into the keyboard when extended out. Of course there are solutions to this too such as a standard IBM keyboard that accepts an aftermarket rubber cover over it, but I may be drifting too far off topic as everyone's workbench computing needs may differ, and if you're used to a modern keyboard then the old school IBM's would take some getting used to and unless a modernized version, will need a PS2 adapter too.
 

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Of course there are solutions to this too such as a standard IBM keyboard that accepts an aftermarket rubber cover over it

Ah - the old "keyboard condom" !

I had an IBM PS2 Model 50 (AT 286 ) and it's keyboard was wrapped in rubber from day 1. It all ended up in a dumpster when I upgraded computers.

I'm typing this on an similar IBM Model-M keyboard that we found in the garbage and saved from destruction - that's keyboard Karma!

Cheers

Jim
 

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I think Sberry got this one - have you seen suburban garages? I'm so frustrated in mine. Is a "2 car" garage that in all reality is a poor excuse for a 1.5 car garage. If anyone in my neighborhood actually parks a vehicle inside its only one, and the rest is usually piled up ****. My space is home to a 1931 Ford Model A restoration project and its simply too narrow, and too shallow to be an effective work space. I'd love to have a 30" deep bench and/or toolbox but if I fill it with much of that my floor space becomes far too compromised and honestly it is already. I am constantly annoyed the builder didn't make my garage even 2 feet wider and 2 feet deeper. It would have wildly improved the space's utility. None of the homes built in the last 30 years in my area are any better even the ones in "upscale" gated communities going upwards of 800K or more. They might have a 3rd bay but the depth and width available per vehicle prohibits having almost anything else in there if you want to keep a vehicle inside.
 

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Wait, so your using a work bench as a desk and complaining it’s to narrow?

A work bench deeper than 24” is a storage place for junk and always a has been.

You can go back more than a hundred years ago and read about work bench design for woodworking and general use and height varies to the user (usually the users base of thumb with hands at the side) but almost universally agree that over 24” deep is not a good thing.

I've used plenty of deeper benches that weren't cluttered...

When you can make use of it, there is no substitute for the surface area.
 

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I tend to agree, which is why I built mine 30” deep. It just makes life easier.

Those are the key words. This is GJ...Just build your own top.
I built mine at 30 inches deep because I used to have several of those little plastic parts drawer units that I pushed to the back. But I quickly learned that didn’t work so well so I hung them on a wall. I now have a full 30 inches available and it’s great.
 

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Wait, so your using a work bench as a desk and complaining it’s to narrow?

A work bench deeper than 24” is a storage place for junk and always a has been.

You can go back more than a hundred years ago and read about work bench design for woodworking and general use and height varies to the user (usually the users base of thumb with hands at the side) but almost universally agree that over 24” deep is not a good thing.

How much junk you let accumulate is just about habits.

I feel the opposite, that you can keep your most used things within an arm's reach in the extra space, then demote lesser used things to drawers. Depends on what you're shooting for, high efficiency utilitarian space, or artistic minimalism.

Woodworking (or metalworking, plastic, etc (material removal use) can be a unique case of dust and shavings that comes back to what I was stating about clean mouse area vs getting things into a keyboard. You definitely don't want a lot of things on the work surface that get in the way of cleaning debris off.
 

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I’ve been using a gladiator work bench as my pc desk and it has been great! So much better than a flimsy cheap desk from Office Depot.
 

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Get a 3/4" or 1" thick (whatever you prefer) sheet of plywood 4'x 8'. decide which end you want the computer at, or maybe you want it in the center. Cut a section measuring from top down 16" D x 24" W. There's your computer space, the rest is workspace. Add a hardboard or oak or whatever you want for a desktop, you could even use 2 different type materials for desk/work table. Build a base or use 2 or 3 drawer file cabinets as a base.
 

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The desk I have my screen & computer on is 24in deep. My workbench is 30in but I'd prefer 32in.
Filed away on my brain is the design for the workbench I'll have when I have a bigger garage/shop & that's 48in deep & 12ft long. Middle section 8x4ft wood top with 2x4ft 1/2in aluminum top at one end & a 1in 2x4ft steel at the other end, but the top would be flush owing using plywood under the thinner aluminum.
 

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How much junk you let accumulate is just about habits.

I feel the opposite, that you can keep your most used things within an arm's reach in the extra space, then demote lesser used things to drawers. Depends on what you're shooting for, high efficiency utilitarian space, or artistic minimalism.

Woodworking (or metalworking, plastic, etc (material removal use) can be a unique case of dust and shavings that comes back to what I was stating about clean mouse area vs getting things into a keyboard. You definitely don't want a lot of things on the work surface that get in the way of cleaning debris off.

I don’t let junk accumulate, I have ocd and am a neat freak, which some of the members on the GJ like lil scorpion have made me only worse.

I am however somewhat well read on work bench design (if you follow Chris Swartz writings there are so many interesting historical references). On top of that I have always been observant of others as it amuses me. I have always been a mechanic of one persuasion or another and for every one guy that’s keeps his bench clear there are nine who will push things past 24”. Hell I had jackwagon that kept trying to store his excessive **** in the back of my bench as his was full and mine was clean!

I agree that some may have no issues with a 30” or 32” bench and that fine, good for them. The OP was asking why the standard is 24” and there is several good reasons. And mass manufacture make things that sell to the 90% not the 10%
 
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