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Why aren't wrench handles round

F-22

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On wrench beams: I often hear people here talk about Snap Ons thin wrench beams cutting into their hands. I imagine them imagining how a wrench feels based on their time with the wrench in a store or…. I grab the extreme end of my wrenches. Maybe only my last 2 fingers grip the beam.

Anyone else? How important is the beam of your combination wrench? Is beam shape a real issue or a made up one?
I think the "issue" is heavily exaggerated. Most of the designs are good enough to not deeply bother me.

But it practically costs the same to make a wrench with a good radius or the beam shape and it is that wee bit nicer so - not much excuse except laziness to keep making pretty much the same patterns they did decades ago.

KTC from Japan also uses a rather nice pattern, very similar to Stahlwille. But KTC wrenches are more fat.

The really really cool thing about KTC that many other brands mess up on is the size stamping. It is massive, you can see the size across the workshop. Really don't get why everyone does not do it that way.

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The Facom ones are generally big enough too, as is Snap On and some others. But KTC goes beyond that for sure.

Stahlwille has a nice shape but the numbering is frustrating. They write their "series" on every one of their wrenches, and it is just as visible as the actual sizing. All standard combo wrenches say "open box 13" on them. It's clear if those are the only wrenches you use, but if you have a bunch of mixed brands thrown together it is just unneccesary confusion.
 
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danielbuck

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try to bend a piece of flat bar the hard way, now try to bend a round rod. the round rod will probably bend easier, even if it has about the same amount of weight to it. by making the wrench handles flat, and you pull in the "hard way", they can make the wrenches with less material than if they made it round. Make the handle wider in the direction of use, and it doesn't need to be nearly as thick as a round rod.
 
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tamaraw

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I think the "issue" is heavily exaggerated. Most of the designs are good enough to not deeply bother me.

But it practically costs the same to make a wrench with a good radius or the beam shape and it is that wee bit nicer so - not much excuse except laziness to keep making pretty much the same patterns they did decades ago.

KTC from Japan also uses a rather nice pattern, very similar to Stahlwille. But KTC wrenches are more fat.

The really really cool thing about KTC that many other brands mess up on is the size stamping. It is massive, you can see the size across the workshop. Really don't get why everyone does not do it that way.

Slika11.png


The Facom ones are generally big enough too, as is Snap On and some others. But KTC goes beyond that for sure.

Stahlwille has a nice shape but the numbering is frustrating. They write their "series" on every one of their wrenches, and it is just as visible as the actual sizing. All standard combo wrenches say "open box 13" on them. It's clear if those are the only wrenches you use, but if you have a bunch of mixed brands thrown together it is just unneccesary confusion.
I believe Gedore no.7 are similar in profile to the KTC models as well.
 

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I really dislike when the size is only stamped on one size of a wrench. Some vintage Proto and some vintage Challenger wrenches are totally blank on one side.

F-22 is making me want buy a set of the KTC wrenches. All of the brands should stamp the size that large. I can’t really justify another set of wrenches…
 

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I’m in the all or nothing class of large print tools. Wrenches aren’t the tools that make me put on my reading glasses, sockets are. And Allen keys.
 

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try to bend a piece of flat bar the hard way, now try to bend a round rod. the round rod will probably bend easier, even if it has about the same amount of weight to it. by making the wrench handles flat, and you pull in the "hard way", they can make the wrenches with less material than if they made it round. Make the handle wider in the direction of use, and it doesn't need to be nearly as thick as a round rod.
In other words, extra material on the neutral axis of the round handle wrench “beam” adds weight without significantly adding strength. A traditional (I beam) cross section is stronger, pound per pound than a round cross section, given the way wrenches are used.
 
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dchawk81

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Okay so why aren’t ratchets flat?

I think the question is why are they different if one style is better than the other and there used for the same things why aren’t ratchets and wrenches using the same style handle?
Some are. I actually like this one most out of all I have.

Powerbuilt 649950 Pro Tech 1/4-inch Drive x 7-inch Long Reach Ratchet Contour Handle - with Extra Long Handle Ratchet, Flex Head, 72 Tooth , Silver https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073WHW4KT?tag=atomicindus08-20
 

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I really dislike when the size is only stamped on one size of a wrench. Some vintage Proto and some vintage Challenger wrenches are totally blank on one side.

F-22 is making me want buy a set of the KTC wrenches. All of the brands should stamp the size that large. I can’t really justify another set of wrenches…
Yes. Yes you can.
 

Samuel D

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Stahlwille has a nice shape but the numbering is frustrating. They write their "series" on every one of their wrenches, and it is just as visible as the actual sizing. All standard combo wrenches say "open box 13" on them. It's clear if those are the only wrenches you use, but if you have a bunch of mixed brands thrown together it is just unneccesary confusion.
The Stahlwille Open Box 13 series spanners are probably my most used spanners, and yet I’m still second-guessing whether that 13 is the size. Just plain idiocy. I agree with you that small size stampings are a “mess up”. There’s no good excuse for it.

When I look at tool manufacturers, I see this kind of low-hanging fruit everywhere, even with the best companies. There’s not a lot of critical thought going into these things, alas.
 

Samuel D

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On wrench beams: I often hear people here talk about Snap Ons thin wrench beams cutting into their hands. I imagine them imagining how a wrench feels based on their time with the wrench in a store or…. I grab the extreme end of my wrenches. Maybe only my last 2 fingers grip the beam.

Anyone else? How important is the beam of your combination wrench? Is beam shape a real issue or a made up one?
The feel in the hand is not important to me as a non-professional user (maybe it would be if I was swinging wrenches all day and risking repetitive stress injuries), but the weight is important for tools I might want to carry to another location. And the I-beam construction does reduce the weight a bit.
 
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