Why Buy Milwaukee or Dewalt Hand Tools?
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WittHay
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Very simple, there are no elections in China and if you say something against the government you are in trouble.
If a Asian company like TTI/Mlwaukee wants to build a plant that employs over 13,000 people, why would the Chinese government have a problem with that.
The are are more socialist Communists governments like Vietnam where tools come from. I have a Stihl cordless battery charger made in Vietnam, JB Goodhue work boots used to be made in Vietnam, now made in China. The Chinese boots are not as good quality
For various reasons China is at the bottom of my list regarding COO. But its the cheapest country in the world to do business in.
2ndGearRubber
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FWIW china is a "commanded" capitalist economy; the government manipulates the free markets negatives, while exploiting the positives.
In communism, there are two stages. One is a seizing of the means of production, and control by a central government. Two is the release of these things, back to the people, once the workers utopia has been reached. No communist country has ever made it to step 2. They are commanded economies and dictatorships mainly. Revolution and general starving to death of the population usually bring those countries down before step 2 is reached. How china will eventually transition, or if it will transition, from its current form will be interesting.
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Why buy power tool branded hand tools? Product image/recognition. Having the word "milwaukee" improves that imported tool box in now way. Many are reasonably good tools, but yes, some of the product is the name on the box. Think of it this way: you're a contractor who needs to buy some hand tools. You rarely buy hand tools, and know little about brands. Dewalt has made good power tools for you, you trust their products to make a living. Dewalt wrench set it is.
In communism, there are two stages. One is a seizing of the means of production, and control by a central government. Two is the release of these things, back to the people, once the workers utopia has been reached. No communist country has ever made it to step 2. They are commanded economies and dictatorships mainly. Revolution and general starving to death of the population usually bring those countries down before step 2 is reached. How china will eventually transition, or if it will transition, from its current form will be interesting.
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Why buy power tool branded hand tools? Product image/recognition. Having the word "milwaukee" improves that imported tool box in now way. Many are reasonably good tools, but yes, some of the product is the name on the box. Think of it this way: you're a contractor who needs to buy some hand tools. You rarely buy hand tools, and know little about brands. Dewalt has made good power tools for you, you trust their products to make a living. Dewalt wrench set it is.
LOL. always love a good Red Scare.
China has 300 million registered automobiles. Forty years ago they had 5,000. Guess they are making their way to that "utopia".
IMO China, is "communism lite" whereas some are getting rich, but most everyone is at least getting a piece of the action.
Sound familiar?
The real risk, IMO, come from their economic prowess, something we used to have here.
China has 300 million registered automobiles. Forty years ago they had 5,000. Guess they are making their way to that "utopia".
IMO China, is "communism lite" whereas some are getting rich, but most everyone is at least getting a piece of the action.
Sound familiar?
The real risk, IMO, come from their economic prowess, something we used to have here.
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2ndGearRubber
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LOL. always love a good Red Scare.
China has 300 million registered automobiles. Forty years ago they had 5,000. Guess they are making their way to that "utopia".
IMO China, is "communism lite" whereas some are getting rich, but most everyone is at least getting a piece of the action.
Sound familiar?
The real risk, IMO, come from their economic prowess, something we used to have here.
It's called command capitalism. The government just subsidizes areas, and shields others. The chinese government simply supports industries that would otherwise fail, for the good of the country. There is little if any communism is that country. Modern china shares little with any understanding of a communist country, outside the name the ruling oligarchy masks themselves in.
We had economic prowess, because we were shielded, much in the way china currently is, from competition. Europe was a smoldering mess, africa and south america were worthless, asia was undergoing revolutions. There were no economic powers aside from the US and the USSR, the latter can be somewhat debated as they were not a huge producer of non utilitarian goods. The US made the active choice to forgo economic prowess, for cheaper goods, and thus an artificially higher standard of living. All the while we over sold the currency. Thank god we're still the world reserve and protected by the petro-dollar.
EDIT: FWIW I'm not sure Marxs ideas of communism even work in a modern, developed society. Natural scarcity creates hard limits on some things. Marx and kaczynski both share in their theories something only the latter recognized. The progress of the industrial revolution, and evolution of post-industrial societies, inherently removes the societal structure required for such theories. Ol' Ted wanted to go primitive, the soviets wanted to grind their way into the future the same way the ground through bread shortages.
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sberry
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In this class of tool I don't care what they call it if it works. Most longer term mechanics have a collection of various common wrenches. Some got little different features.