RedneckWelder
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And I'll add that absolutely nothing is stopping you from calling up Snap On, or jumping on the good ol' computer and buying it direct from Snap On themselves instead of dealing with the truck.
Free shipping, too.
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And I'll add that absolutely nothing is stopping you from calling up Snap On, or jumping on the good ol' computer and buying it direct from Snap On themselves instead of dealing with the truck.
Free shipping, too.
Yep... I have no issue using .com when my schedule doesn't match my dealer, as I live in a small town and he is only here once or twice a week on average. The only downfall is the lack of Access to the Bogo deals, as I'm a bit on the tight side and it has to be a tough find or snap on exclusive before I'll jump on the "Full retail" train.
So pay full price and wait for the mailman, while the popular justification for being overpriced is local dealer service?
So pay full price and wait for the mailman, while the popular justification for being overpriced is local dealer service?
Not everyone has dealer support for various reasons.. This doesn't mean you can't enjoy a specific brand if that person so chooses.
SASORacing
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When I was younger I used to love walking onto a mac or snappy truck, I still do but I am used to it. It's just such a great feeling, and that feeling alone is another reason why I'm willING to drop coin on usa tool companies.
flyingtpot
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With the right sales rep from MAC or Snappy it can still be fun on that truck. A catalog or online browse is nothing like that gaze inside the truck.
RedneckWelder
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So pay full price and wait for the mailman, while the popular justification for being overpriced is local dealer service?
It was in response to the hollering about not getting access to a truck. Guess what, I don't have access to a Snap On truck either at the moment, so if I want Snap On, it's online (I do have access to the SEP program, but much of what I need to get is not part of that program, as that is intended mainly for starter tools)
This thread is a reminder that some people on this board would ***** if you hung 'em with a new rope...
Herod
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Maybe not very many people in the world would be serious enough to buy Snap on. But me, I'd ruther look in my box and see it filled with snap on than harbor fright or craftman.
Feel better about myself, too.
Because anything worth doing is worth overdoing.
Feel better about myself, too.
Because anything worth doing is worth overdoing.
In many parts of the world Snap-On is virtually not available....
Herod
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Sure it is.......ebay and fedex.
Ebay is "virtual".....right? "Virtual shopping"......
Ebay is "virtual".....right? "Virtual shopping"......
panknuckshovel
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Wasn't this thread locked
Yah, but it was a Harbor Freight lock so it was easy to bust.
RedneckWelder
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Wasn't this thread locked
I think that's the other thread with the guy going "WAH! I'M GONNA SELLLLLLL ALL MY SNAP ON TOOOOOLSSSS! WAH!"
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That was moved to Whine but no cheese.
Yes, there is intl. shipping, but not every sale offers this.
For the last month I have been looking at buying a Hazet something or other and no USA retailer stocked it. I did find a few on eBay in other Euro countries; all but one didn't offer intl. shipping. The one that did, shipping costed more than the item. :/
So, are all items "available" "everywhere"? "Yes". ;-)
I'm not in the states, this makes a difference.
Read here about a great deal at any stateside retailer, any of them and smile. Then realize they don't ship int'l or worse if they do after shipping I'll have paid $47 for a $9 tool that is an average item. Plus the 5 weeks they'll estimate in shipping time.
Better to buy local if its not something so rare and special. Walk away from the seller with items in hand after paying $12 is a much better deal.
Read here about a great deal at any stateside retailer, any of them and smile. Then realize they don't ship int'l or worse if they do after shipping I'll have paid $47 for a $9 tool that is an average item. Plus the 5 weeks they'll estimate in shipping time.
Better to buy local if its not something so rare and special. Walk away from the seller with items in hand after paying $12 is a much better deal.
blown94conv
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I could buy something that is close to Snap On, almost as Good, Kinda looks like, sorta smells like, the list goes on and on.
Or I could stop screwing around and get the real deal.
Or I could stop screwing around and get the real deal.
bcradio
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Most brands aren't trying to mimic snap-on, so 'the real deal' means absolutely nothing to them. The few that are, you might be able say it's worth it to get 'the real deal'.
Art From De Leon
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When 5th or 6th rate 'tool' companies like Harbor Freight mimic the colors and shape of a Snap-on ratchet, that should tell you a lot about the mystique, aura, pride, and prejudice of owning the REAL thing.
Remember all the cheap *** screwdrivers and pry bars that copied the ORIGINAL Snap-on black handle? Or the junk ratchets and breaker bars that came as close as possible to the shape of the steel Snap-on handle.
You do notice that NO ONE ever copies MAC, MATCO, or Cornwell tools. (I wonder why?) (NO name recognition perhaps)?
YES, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, and YES, I DO DRINK THE KOOL-AID™
Remember all the cheap *** screwdrivers and pry bars that copied the ORIGINAL Snap-on black handle? Or the junk ratchets and breaker bars that came as close as possible to the shape of the steel Snap-on handle.
You do notice that NO ONE ever copies MAC, MATCO, or Cornwell tools. (I wonder why?) (NO name recognition perhaps)?
YES, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, and YES, I DO DRINK THE KOOL-AID™
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown
i own a few snapon items. things that i have bought with student discount. i have mostly matco stuff though as that was the company they pushed the hardest at my school. i think the snapon ratchets are the nicest i have ever used. i love the way snapon tools look and i am envious of people who have a lot of them, but i cant justify the truck prices. $500 for 11 wobbles? come on man thats just ridiculous. they may make most of their stuff in america, but its still mass produced.
i havent experienced this at my shop as most of the guys here are old timers who will just buy whatever works and rarely purchase new tools anyway, but i have heard that at some shops if you do not own snapon tools you can be ridiculed and in some cases even lose work. i have heard of service writers not wanting to give jobs to techs who don't use snapon because they are under the impression that the job somehow won't be done right without the most expensive tools money can buy.
personally i like to buy quality because i don't appreciate having to purchase the same tool multiple times and i like the way the nice stuff feels in my hand and works. i also really like shiny things. that said i will not pay list price for any of these tools and i have no problem buying used.
Snap_cap
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Exactly.
This is why Autozone sells "Snap-On" branded licensed mechanics gloves for a steep price point that are nothing like the actual Snap-On mechanics gloves available through the dealer on the truck.
That's the reason I filled my suitcase with German tools when I went to visit Germany.
I laugh when people say that everything is "available". ;-)
Yeah I understand and completely agree... as long as you can afford the real-deal, of course. These are two separate arguments we have here (that I've noticed);
a: why buy tools that are made to look like Snap-On (because name recognition) when you can buy real Snap-On? (Cost and availability are issues here -- Some guys buy on truck credit, others have no truck access, etc.)
And b: why buy Snap-On at steep prices when there are as good or better tools on the market? (Availability and name recognition are the only issues here I feel -- if you're considering between Snap-On and say, Hazet for example, cost is a non-issue, right?; both brands are very costly. Snap-On truck comes to you...well, that makes the decision easy.)
That said, Hazet is not nearly as a recognizable name here in the states as Snap-On is, thus Hazet is not as widely available. In addition, you have the added costs of shipping German tools into the States, which makes an already expensive tool even more so. Might as well just settle for Snap-On at this point, which most people are likely to do. Unless you truly want the best and are willing to pay this price and put up with long lead times. (Of course, the previous statement stems from my perception of Hazet as being the best, and may land me in deep water here lol.)
You are less likely to ever see Hazet around, so a perceived feeling of inferiority is likely to exist in those who have have only been exposed to Snap-On as the only brand of quality. But, for those who are "in the know", it's quite a treat to see a Hazet tool trolley rolling around in a shop full of Snap-On behemoth boxes.
Sorry for the long post. What was the question again?
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Snap_cap
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With the right sales rep from MAC or Snappy it can still be fun on that truck. A catalog or online browse is nothing like that gaze inside the truck.
Honestly, the tools sell themselves when you're on the truck, simply because you can always find something on there that you "need" subjectively or want objectively.
The
factor has a power over the will all its own.Often, the ability to handle the tools makes the sale, whereas just looking at them on-line or in a hard copy catalog doesn't impress quality or assure value versus cost.
All combination wrenches look the same, yet all brands feel different when you hold them.
Ultimately, personal preference will guide (or mis-lead) ones personal finances.
I already answered that for you. Jonestown.
although everyone says "drinking the kool-aid" to refer to people that blindly follow something, that term is incorrect.
the followers at jonestown drank cyanide mixed up w/ grape FLAVOR-AID.
i didnt read the wiki article 'cause i know the story. if that was mentioned in the article, nevermind
the followers at jonestown drank cyanide mixed up w/ grape FLAVOR-AID.
i didnt read the wiki article 'cause i know the story. if that was mentioned in the article, nevermind
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warmpancakes
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yes, without question
I guess to be Politically Correct "Flavored Drink" comes in many different Brands, On 1 side you have the "Kool-Aid" Crowd who wants the Best Money Can buy for reason that are important to them, Thus...
Then you have the Cheaper flavored Drink that some think is Just as Good as the Higher Priced Brand, And its the better option.
Sadly No relief from the Back and forth is Near, Flavored Drink is just too volatile of a Subject, 1 side blames the other, Then Cries because someone made offensive remarks about there "Flavored Drink", then hypocritically bashes the Opposing party in hopes to save face for there Tool brand, I mean Flavored Drink, and like a broken record it just keeps going. The Truth of the Matter is both sides are drinking flavored Water.. Food for thought.
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wyo george
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Flavor-Aid was good enough for Jim, it's good enough for me....
As to Snap-On Tools; I have some of them mixed in with about every major USA brand out there and while they are good tools I simply do not get the worship mentality that some people have for SO.
Whether you want to admit it or not.. The same mentality runs deep with HF, It takes 2 to tango.
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Here ya go
drink the kool-aid
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=drink the kool-aid&defid=1187597
wyo george
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I agree it does, and I have almost zero use for HF tools. Let me clarify by saying that I don't get the brand loyalty worship for ANY brand.
I'm no major player, but I do have around $25-30k in tools and they are 99% USA made and include about all brands (including SO). When I buy a tool I buy it based on it's individual merit and comfort of use, not based on the name stamped in the handle.
For example, I prefer older SK or MAC for my wrenches, I prefer Channellock for my pliers, Williams screwdrivers, SO swivels, etc. etc. etc.
Some of these discussions remind me of my friend who absolutely hates his 2012 F-350, but it's a Ford and he's a "Ford guy" so he said he'll just "keep it until Ford comes out with a better truck."
wyo george
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OH.. So your one of those Guys...
I'm one of those guys who makes independent decisions based on merit instead of brands, yes I will admit though, I do buy clamps and grinding wheels at HF and I like their Predator series of small engines (run them on mini bikes and go karts for the kids)
I will admit though, I do buy clamps and grinding wheels at HF and I like their Predator series of small engines (run them on mini bikes and go karts for the kids)
Clearly you are Mixing your Flavored drinks, Its common knowledge here at GJ that you can only drink 1 specific Flavored drink. Otherwise how are the regulars going to justify this "Kool-aid" conspiracy? I feel sorry for you, When they find out someone is mixing the flavors, your so gonna be in trouble.
wyo george
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Hiball said:
It's not the first time I failed to fit into someone else's perfectly fashioned mold
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