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SASORacing said:
How can I buy hazet? Does he come to my shop right after the snap on guy and I just miss him everytime?
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And here is the gist of it. It boils down to convenience mixed with a little bit of laziness. There are better values on hand tools out there, there are better hand tools. But the tool trucks are nothing more than the mechanic's heroin dealer and he has them hooked. Too bad they are too doped up to see what is happening to them.
 
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chicane said:
Yeah, it puts you perpetually in debt.
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Few brand new mechanics have the money to buy a complete set of tools, outright. It makes sense to buy a few basics, to start, and get immediately into the habit of adding tools as the need reveals itself, and the new mechanic becomes more educated as to just what he really needs.

Nothing stops him from buying at Harbor Freight, anything he chooses, except the dismal quality comparison to his Snap-On tools.
 
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BirdMobile said:
Indeed. LOVE my F80 and TLL72 ratchets! FHLF80 ain't no slouch either. :)
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The GF80 is my baby. I reach for that thing every single time pretty much! So smooth..only thing I wish is that it had less back drag. It has more than my old coarse tooth Craftsman.

Does anyone know if a 3/8" Dual-80 with recessed selector lever exists? Hard handle?
 
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chicane said:
And here is the gist of it. It boils down to convenience mixed with a little bit of laziness. There are better values on hand tools out there, there are better hand tools. But the tool trucks are nothing more than the mechanic's heroin dealer and he has them hooked. Too bad they are too doped up to see what is happening to them.
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chicane said:
Yeah, it puts you perpetually in debt.
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U jelly bro?
 
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The GF80 is my baby. I reach for that thing every single time pretty much! So smooth..only thing I wish is that it had less back drag. It has more than my old coarse tooth Craftsman.

Does anyone know if a 3/8" Dual-80 with recessed selector lever exists? Hard handle?
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My F80 is pretty much my "go-to" for a 3/8 non-flex head. However, I find myself reaching more often recently for my Carlyle R38TD - lower back drag, about the same size, and seems to be just as tough. I don't notice the difference between the Snap On's 80 tooth mechanism and the Carlyle's 72 tooth. At a little over $20, the Carlyle really holds its own.
 
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I throw the BS flag on that. You can change QA procedures, but any product that rolls of a production line is the same as any other. Putting it in a red box instead of a yellow is not going to change its quality.

Out of curiosity what is the going interest rate for Snappy corp credit and truck credit? I imagine truck credit varies widely by driver.
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Actually, factories do produce varying levels of quality depending on which OEM they are making the product for. Totally depends on the product and the co's involved, I am not sure of any of the SO suppliers produce varying levels but it does happen.
 
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BirdMobile said:
My F80 is pretty much my "go-to" for a 3/8 non-flex head. However, I find myself reaching more often recently for my Carlyle R38TD - lower back drag, about the same size, and seems to be just as tough. I don't notice the difference between the Snap On's 80 tooth mechanism and the Carlyle's 72 tooth. At a little over $20, the Carlyle really holds its own.
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Not that there is a nickels worth of difference between a 60 and 80 tooth ratchet, but I thought the R38TD was a 60 tooth ratchet, I wasn't aware they made a pearhead in 72, Only 60 and 90.
 
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Nothing stops him from buying at Harbor Freight, anything he chooses, except the dismal quality comparison to his Snap-On tools.
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From what the guys are saying about the HF Pro wrenches, not so much. I think SO is going to be hurting in the coming years. The HF store in my area is smack dab in the middle of auto dealer row in my town (no coincidence). I always see a line of pros there when I go on my lunch break. As dealers get squeezed and are unable to pay better salaries mechanics are going to have to balance their own budgets.

Young mechanics especially are going to find it easier to resist the pull of the trucks and then SO is done.

I could get a guy to deliver Big Mac's to me at my work off of a truck for ten bucks a pop. It doesn't mean they are worth it. But it would be damned convenient. OR, I could just get off of my *** on my lunch break and head to the McDonald's down the street and save a ton of money.
 
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From what the guys are saying about the HF Pro wrenches, not so much. I think SO is going to be hurting in the coming years. The HF store in my area is smack dab in the middle of auto dealer row in my town (no coincidence). I always see a line of pros there when I go on my lunch break. As dealers get squeezed and are unable to pay better salaries mechanics are going to have to balance their own budgets.

Young mechanics especially are going to find it easier to resist the pull of the trucks and then SO is done.

I could get a guy to deliver Big Mac's to me at my work off of a truck for ten bucks a pop. It doesn't mean they are worth it. But it would be damned convenient. OR, I could just get off of my *** on my lunch break and head to the McDonald's down the street and save a ton of money.
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Snap on is a fortune 500 company with an iron clad reputation.
 
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chicane said:
From what the guys are saying about the HF Pro wrenches, not so much. I think SO is going to be hurting in the coming years. The HF store in my area is smack dab in the middle of auto dealer row in my town (no coincidence). I always see a line of pros there when I go on my lunch break. As dealers get squeezed and are unable to pay better salaries mechanics are going to have to balance their own budgets.

Young mechanics especially are going to find it easier to resist the pull of the trucks and then SO is done.

I could get a guy to deliver Big Mac's to me at my work off of a truck for ten bucks a pop. It doesn't mean they are worth it. But it would be damned convenient. OR, I could just get off of my *** on my lunch break and head to the McDonald's down the street and save a ton of money.
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Honestly think that HF is going to be able to produce pro-quality tools for their cheap prices? No way. Every pro I know uses SO, Mac, Matco, Cornwell, SK, Proto, etc.. They may cherry pick a few things at HF, but their hard line is all quality stuff.

Quality tools make the jobs faster and easier which equals more money and less frustration. If anything, I see HF introducing a true "pro" line that will come closer to SO, but it's going to cost a lot more than HF's current prices.
 
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I have some SO tools but have never made them a priority, most of mine are craftsman and I even own other cheaper tools but I quit buying their stuff (craftsman) since they went over seas,,,, if SK makes, I buy it end of story.
 
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Boredmechanic said:
Snap on is a fortune 500 company with an iron clad reputation.
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And financials to back it up, for every 1 keyboard commando crying about Snap on here, there is probably 500 snap on consumers who have never heard of Garage Journal. I'm not trying to slam HF, they obviously serve a consumer base.
 
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From what the guys are saying about the HF Pro wrenches, not so much. I think SO is going to be hurting in the coming years. The HF store in my area is smack dab in the middle of auto dealer row in my town (no coincidence). I always see a line of pros there when I go on my lunch break. As dealers get squeezed and are unable to pay better salaries mechanics are going to have to balance their own budgets.

Young mechanics especially are going to find it easier to resist the pull of the trucks and then SO is done.

The "young mechanic" that I would look to hire would have some idea of his limitations. One being.....he does not know what works best. How could he?
But your point is valid....I worked alongside an excellent young mechanic when I was wrenching on high-speed ferries. His go-to tools were all HF. He was a ******** HF guy. He made them work. Granted....he made alot of trips to HF, and we had shop PROTO for anything above 3/8ths. And I used my own, as much as he liked to try to hand me his colored HF sockets. HAH!
I liked the guy.....he was gifted. I didn't place much stock in his HF ramblings.....the truth was: he knew what worked at 27 years of age.
From what I have seen and learned....as good as he is he will learn to look for the tool that makes the job easier....or smoother....or whatever word you care to use.
Snap On usually does this.
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As much as you ***** about price customer service is really non existent at HF. One example that HF can not touch. You need a 2 5/8 socket or something weird for something that just showed up and broke on your property. Is HF or craftsman going to get the item over nighted to you? Yes you can play I will search the internet and you might spend hours doing that and hope you will get it in time and be the right one. But having a cultivated relationship with a dealer can help you. It is going to be difficult and time costly not having a relationship with a tool truck. Does HF even carry a 3 inch socket?
 
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Snap on revamps their air tools too often for me, ill stick with mac and IR for that. SO impacts are too bulky for my liking... love their ratchets though!
 
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If you're tool sensitive, and you've already tried Snap-on tools, you'll begin to notice the shortcomings of other tool brands right away. But the keyword is how tool sensitive you are.
 
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because it feels so much classier to do lines off the top of a snap-on box than a craftsman box.










easy guys. i'm kidding:lol_hitti
 
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chicane said:
And here is the gist of it. It boils down to convenience mixed with a little bit of laziness. There are better values on hand tools out there, there are better hand tools. But the tool trucks are nothing more than the mechanic's heroin dealer and he has them hooked. Too bad they are too doped up to see what is happening to them.
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Dude, when it gets to the point that you proclaim that the people who prefer the quality of Snap-On tools are a bunch of druggies,, it is time to close the thread... A low down statement like that is uncalled for......Are you MAN ENOUGH to offer an apology??????
 
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Dollar Tree is a Fortune 500 company. That means **** all to me, what a "powerhouse" a company is.
 
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Jesus H, over 24,000 views for this stack of monkey ****. I can't help but think of all the very legitimate, informative, threads that struggled to get a quarter of that.

I don't know if it's the 24th coming of Merkava, or who is actually behind this ****, but if trolling the **** out this place was the goal, they've succeeded.

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spoon671 said:
Dollar Tree is a Fortune 500 company. That means **** all to me, what a "powerhouse" a company is.
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Well a "powerhouse" to me is a company/stock is one that has had constant growth and is financially fiscal for its investors. If your interested in learning more, SNA financial reports will get you started.
 
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