Why can't people do their job?

[Flexia]

Little rant I have right now. Been trying to get some one out to fill and level my pole building. After talking with 3 companies one finally showed up to do the work. They said they would have it done on Tuesday. They showed up in the morning and must have left by 1, left a bobcat sitting in the garage and a load of fill. No one bothers to call me to tell me what's going on until this morning they show up and take the bobcat. The workers that showed up to grab the machine didn't have a clue what was going on. I guess the only good part of it as of now is I had free labor for half a day and some free fill. And I'm to busy to track down play phone tag to see what's going on.

Now I find out that the fill they told me there would use is not what they are using. I was told it would be 304 gravel and they are something called 603. I don't know how some people can run a good size business this way.

 

[kd3pc]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

Dave's corollary #43.....

If they are trying to stay in business, they are doing a poor job....and if they are trying to go out of business, they are doing an even worse job.

My father, my father in law and I have all walked away from our own businesses - due to having to deal with idiot employees almost 100% of our time. And this is not a result of low pay, bad hiring or these types of things.

It is that now aday's an employer can not expect an employee to do his 8 hours for 8 hours pay....the employee wants to be able to come and go at his leisure, use his phone/tablet/computer for his own use/business any time he wants and so on.

I feel for you, and for the youngsters on the list, as this has only gotten worse in the past decade and will continue to do so as long as we reward the entitled.

I doubt any of your workers even understood their errors, nor were their actions even discussed by management, let alone any consequence handed out to keep this from happening again, and again.

 

[b-body-bob]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

Be glad they left. We have trouble getting contractors to even come out. An old lady two doors down was scammed recently, so on top of not being able to find someone to do the work, you can't trust the ones who come out.

I heard from another neighbor,like a son to the old lady, that it's going to be like an episode of Catch A Contractor around here soon. I sure wouldn't want to have to face this particular guy over what they did.

 

[readhead]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

Go with the established long time contractors and quit looking for the cheapest price.

 

[Professur]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

Little rant I have right now. Been trying to get some one out to fill and level my pole building. After talking with 3 companies one finally showed up to do the work. They said they would have it done on Tuesday. They showed up in the morning and must have left by 1, left a bobcat sitting in the garage and a load of fill. No one bothers to call me to tell me what's going on until this morning they show up and take the bobcat. The workers that showed up to grab the machine didn't have a clue what was going on. I guess the only good part of it as of now is I had free labor for half a day and some free fill. And I'm to busy to track down play phone tag to see what's going on.

Now I find out that the fill they told me there would use is not what they are using. I was told it would be 304 gravel and they are something called 603. I don't know how some people can run a good size business this way.

I would be seriously worried, not relieved. They can prove they were on site twice, and delivered materials to your location. They could slap a lien on you based on that.

 

[7th Kahuna]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

In my experience as a commercial construction manager, there are four classifications of contractor that the majority of contracting businesses will fit into.

Beer Money Contractors: (Surprisingly Common) Generally independent contractors who show up long enough to earn beer money then disappear. A lot of these guys seem to own a piece of machinery enabling them to earn a decent wage but once they hit the threshold they are gone for the rest of the month.

Professional Independent Contractors: (Fairly Rare) Independents who show up and do a good job. A few of these will remain as independents, either because they are poor managers or simply don't want to have to take on employees. Most, to support their success, will form small companies. Those who stay independent will remain busy supporting a small number of regular customers. They aren't generally looking for work.

Small Residential Contractors: (Fairly Common) These are the successful and / or ambitious Independent Contractors who have taken on employees and grown. They have figured out how to buy insurance and all the other parts that make a company official. Some will be successful managers, many will not. Success as an independent contractor is by no means a guarantee of success as a Small Residential Contractor. Employees, as mentioned above, are a big variable. Again, the guys who do it well will typically be kept fairly busy by a handful of customers.

Commercial Contractors: (Common) Turns out residential (private) customers are kind of difficult to work for and will frequently select the lowest bid without any thought to what they are buying. For the successful Small Residential Contractors who have figured out insurance and management, the jump to commercial contractor is often a no-brainer; fewer headaches and less competition from smaller contractors who seem to have no idea how to price a job. If work gets slow, they can always take on a job for a private customer but it will often be a customer they already have some connection to. Commercial insurance is more expensive so it pretty well takes them out of competition in the residential market.

Unfortunately what that means for the majority of us, who are opening up the yellow pages to find a contractor for a one time project, is we are pretty much out of luck. You have to do your homework. The good guys who are interested in our work and will do a good job, are far outnumbered by the guys who are only interested in a check.

 

[Flexia]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

Go with the established long time contractors and quit looking for the cheapest price.

The business is not the cheapest. Also has been around since 1924. I went with them because he seemed the most professional at the time. I know the owner lives about a mile from me also. Maybe I will have to show up at his door one day.

 

[readhead]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

Good idea. Ask him what's going on? There is a bad problem right now all over the country with companies trying to find help. So many people left the trades when things slowed down that now that it is busy it is hard to cover all the work. Unfortunatly some companies are throughing bodies at the work and that usually doesn't end well.

 

[Leaflessshadetree]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

Q: Why can't people do their job?
A: Because they are too busy doing your, mine and everybody else's jobs.

 

[SteveCh]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

We have a 500 ft. long, steep, unpaved driveway. Back in the nineties, I tried to get someone to come out and grade it, rain and snowmelt over the yr. had really made it a mess.

Well. I went to five different operators in about a year. Not one of the five ever showed up, after each of them at different times agreed to do the job, no written contract but verbal. Each of those times, I took a day off work [no pay] to let the operator in our gate and go over exactly what I wanted done.

Finally, disgusted, I decided to buy my own #$%^ machine of some sort and do it myself. At the prices they'd all quoted, I figured it would take me a decade to break even if I had them out every couple years. [which I did need]

After a search, I ended up buying a brand-new Kubota diesel tractor with a bucket and blade. I figured I'd use it a few times on the road, then sell it. It turned out to be such a wonderful tool, and I used it so much on various chores, I kept it. Those idiots did me a big favor, I'd have never bought a machine like that.

So, think about renting or purchasing something for yourself. I love using my tractor and run it probably three times a week for this or that chore.

 

[theoldwizard1]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

I paid a contractor to install pavers and new sod at my daughters house. He was upset when I wrote and addendum to the contract that included a "performance clause". $100/day penalty for not starting on the agreed upon date and completing the work in the agreed upon number of days. Both clauses stated that the dates could be changed if both parties agreed. There were several other items listed that had been verbally agreed on. Reluctantly he signed it.

I sidewalk supervised the whole job and became quiet friendly with the crew and the owner, who did real work ! The job ran over and I never said a word. In fact I gave a tip to the workers.

I did this on a roof job also. I think everything on the addendum had already verbally agreed upon and the owner signed it with no issues. The day they started, I handed the addendum with the owners signature to the job site supervisor. I also let him know I would be supervising and taking pictures. The supervisor discussed it with several of his workers. With me snapping pictures everything went smooth.

If it is not in writing, it hasn't been said !

 

[Xicaque]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

Don't even get me started! I have a bunch of GS gov't garbage. That is why this country is broke

 

[redsand187]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

Unfortunately, it's not just contractors. As a business owner, it is amazing how many people won't do their job. I can't even count the number of times I've hired a person, or even a b2b service provider, after we both agreed to the terms, and I promised to give them exactly what they asked for both as payment and time frame, and yet they still could not deliver.

I think a lot of people think they are worth more then they are, and are too ADHD to actually complete a complex task. It's almost if you agree to pay someone the $75 an hour they are hoping to get, they now think, "wow, that was easy, I should have asked for $100.... F*** that guy, he's not paying me what I'm worth."

It's easy to get distracted if you let yourself. That is why I am a big believer in a flex schedule and compensation by task not by hour. Set a solid must have date, and call it good. If the person cannot complete it in that time, and doesn't give you a heads up with a real reason as to why, they are probably worthless and not worth investing any more time into.

theoldwizard1's penalty clause is another good way to weed out the ****.

I have also found, that on smaller construction jobs I've had done, trustworthy contractors don't ask for any money upfront. They have a line of credit with their suppliers, so they don't need money up front. If they are requesting payment upfront, it's likely because they can't get credit, and there is a reason for that.

One thing is for sure, the economy must be 100% fully recovered and unemployment must be negative, because it's nearly impossible to find someone who isn't "busy." (especially after they already have your money)

 

[bignick]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

haha, i got a guy who did an excellent job on my backyard patio cover. He's actually done a few for relatives also. Now I want gutters on the front of the house.
He answered one email, wont return any phone calls, post **** daily on facebook and will not acknowledge anything from me. I don't understand it.

 

[volleyball]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

Dave's corollary #43.....

If they are trying to stay in business, they are doing a poor job....and if they are trying to go out of business, they are doing an even worse job.

My father, my father in law and I have all walked away from our own businesses - due to having to deal with idiot employees almost 100% of our time. And this is not a result of low pay, bad hiring or these types of things.

It is that now aday's an employer can not expect an employee to do his 8 hours for 8 hours pay....the employee wants to be able to come and go at his leisure, use his phone/tablet/computer for his own use/business any time he wants and so on.

I feel for you, and for the youngsters on the list, as this has only gotten worse in the past decade and will continue to do so as long as we reward the entitled.

I doubt any of your workers even understood their errors, nor were their actions even discussed by management, let alone any consequence handed out to keep this from happening again, and again.

Why has every generation for thousands of years say the new generation is useless? Things are way better now than they were 1,2,20 generations ago.
Maybe it's the old generations thinking that you pay people today what you would have paid them 30 years ago.

 

[GYPSY400]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

Hired a guy to install a metal roof and some decking repair on a double wide.

Against my better judgement gave him $450 up front,i paid for and picked up the roofing material,

Agreement was you get paid when the roof is done,you quit for any reason you don't get **** or money,none,mmm started out gang busters,then a slow crawl,then wanted a draw,no cigar *******,he hired out of his share some help,still a crawl,

show up at ten go to lunch at twelve,back at one,leave at four,this is going good,LOL

Finally neighbor that recommend him,came to work,and made the job happen,apologized and said,Im back to working by myself,sorry i recommended him.

I paid the neighbor not the contractor,and the neighbor took what he thought his share should be,boo fuckn hoo,contractor who couldn't and wanted to quit the job,cried like a baby.

Now that the jobs over,and hes been paid,the contractor,wanted to do some simple work on the house,and overbuild some simple fixes and **** me,LOL,aint happening.

Normally i buy the materials,you do the job,you leave or quit for any reason your fucked,you get nothing,ever-I hired you in good faith,you said you could and would,now you want a draw for gas? OK 20 bucks a day no more,at the end of the day of course,then deduct that from the total.

They get weak knees half way in,underbid and want to back out and get paid,mmm not today sonny boy,finish what you started.

Why would i be this way??,mmm bad experiences,and read the comments on the journal about (some) contractors.

Lol.. I like your attitude..

And yes I got screwed once too.. Hired a buddy to do my roof.. Got the material, bin and rooftop delivery all set up.. Then of course he doesn't show.. Apparently his car broke down AND his cell phone broke.. Gave him a second chance.. Still didn't show... . Found a new roofer and haven't talked to him since.



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[Throbbin Rods]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

Hired a guy to roof a garage at a house I had just bought, I was heading out of town and was promised the job would be done Friday. Got home Sunday night to find water pouring into my garage, and $30K worth of reloading materials were in the garage. Called the guy on it, knew him all my life, , back hurt, car not running, wife bitching etc, never mind, I will give you $100 for stripping the roof and do the rest myself. He thought it was worth more than that I guess, when I got home from work on Monday it was shingled.
I have done everything myself for 30 years, always get it done when I want and how I want. Now that I am physically unable to do so, I have two guys I use for carpentry stuff, one is my best friend and it is a side job for him. Perfect work, master carpenter, now driving truck. Other guy has been in the business for 35 years, works by the hour, you provide material, and he always is there when he says he is going to be.
One trick I use for the driveway, I take the tailgate off my utility trailer, flip it angle side down, hook a chain on it, stack some blocks on it and hook it to the ATV. Driveway looks like a million bucks after 10-12 passes.
I had a Kubota for 13 years, wish I still had it.

 

[Mikelowrey]

Why can't people do there job?

I paid a contractor to install pavers and new sod at my daughters house. He was upset when I wrote and addendum to the contract that included a "performance clause". $100/day penalty for not starting on the agreed upon date and completing the work in the agreed upon number of days. Both clauses stated that the dates could be changed if both parties agreed. There were several other items listed that had been verbally agreed on. Reluctantly he signed it.



I sidewalk supervised the whole job and became quiet friendly with the crew and the owner, who did real work ! The job ran over and I never said a word. In fact I gave a tip to the workers.



I did this on a roof job also. I think everything on the addendum had already verbally agreed upon and the owner signed it with no issues. The day they started, I handed the addendum with the owners signature to the job site supervisor. I also let him know I would be supervising and taking pictures. The supervisor discussed it with several of his workers. With me snapping pictures everything went smooth.



If it is not in writing, it hasn't been said !

Theoldwizard,

Would you mind sharing a copy of the document, sounds very handy. Thanks!


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[jmiller_2308]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

Sadly, the people that can't seem to manage to work the hours paid, show up on time, or even attempt to do what they promise to do are not limited to the construction industry.

I work as a software engineer getting to work by 5:30 to beat the rush and usually don't get out of the office until at least 4:00. 1/2 hour lunch break but otherwise nose to the grindstone all day long.

I wish the same could be said of my co-workers. Many can't be bothered to get in before 10:00, take at least an hour lunch, and somehow are all running for the door at 3:00. When they are in the office they are busy chatting and rarely does it seam that anybody attempts to meet the commitments they make.

I see this from all the ages I work with. The old timers are just putting in time and collecting a lot of money for what I'm not sure. The younguns scare me the most because they think this is working. They are so used to doing facebook/twitter/etc. and the hours they kept at school that they really don't know what it is to work. Many times I have even heard them complain that it is just too hard to do the same thing all day long.

I am saddened by the trend and really fear for the future.

 

[b-body-bob]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

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I work as a software engineer getting to work by 5:30 to beat the rush and usually don't get out of the office until at least 4:00. 1/2 hour lunch break but otherwise nose to the grindstone all day long.

I wish the same could be said of my co-workers. Many can't be bothered to get in before 10:00, take at least an hour lunch, and somehow are all running for the door at 3:00. When they are in the office they are busy chatting and rarely does it seam that anybody attempts to meet the commitments they make.

I see this from all the ages I work with.

It has nothing to do with the age, and everything to do with the worker.

I'm one of those old-timers you mentioned, with 30 years in the same line of work as you, and it's always been that way.

The best advice I ever got when I once complained about it was "worry about him when you get to see his time sheet". Live is much sweeter when you quit stressing over things you can't change.

There's also the salient point that here we are, both posting on GJ right now too ...

 

[jmiller_2308]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

There's also the salient point that here we are, both posting on GJ right now too ...

Well I have the day off so I'm not posting from work (although I was "dialing in" and monitoring work to try to shephard things along).

The sad thing is that my managers all know the story and it is simply too much bother for them to discipline people or even fire people.

Instead they just shift work to those of us the try to make things happen. This develops "heros" that ultimately burn out. I'm burned out. I'm thinking of switching careers and selling elio motors vehicles.

 

[Coolabah]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

-snip-
Go on over to the man card thread and see part of the problem
Someone over there thinks the number one man rule is; make yourself happy first and foremost.

Thanks for that , kinda interesting thread.
was this the post you were referring to ?
"Sorry. But, I make up my own rules. In life and man card rules. #1- feel good about yourself."

I read that differently from you ( can't vouch for what the poster was thinking )
... my take was that he was trying to do the right thing rather than what you interpreted

ie if I was to lie or steal I would not feel good about myself, so I don't. If I was to help someone in difficulty I would feel that I had done the right thing , so , yes I would feel good about myself. Just my take and sorry to the OP for the OT post .
To stay on topic, yes I have found that my younger staff seem to expect to get paid just for turning up- never used to be that way with someone the same age but 10 or 15 years ago...

 

[ZRX61]

I spent TWO ******* YEARS trying to get concrete guys to even show up to give me a quote on a 9yard pour.
In the end I did it myself.

 

[jb3]

i have had amazing results finding people exclusively on yelp. i am a property manager, so im looking for people all the time for this or that. yelp reviews have totally changed my life. i still get burned every now and then, but once you get a core of 5 or 6 good people for each service, you can rotate depending on who flakes out, and who is busy. (and the good guys are always busy)

i try to stick exclusively with smaller businesses and personal relationships too. Once these guys understand that i have work in other buildings for them as well if im impressed, i get good service. if you show up when you say, stick to the quote you quoted, and do a good job, i am perfectly happy to listen to why your exwife is a monstrous bltch, why your kid is lazy, and how many times a client has propositioned you while in their house.

ive found a number of really scary looking people that are the most honest and professional hardworking folks when it comes to the job. yelp and other review based search engines are the way to go these days, i used to just shoot from the hip in the phone book


also, as an add on, distance from the city is a huge factor it seems. i manage one property that is about 30minutes from town, and thats been the biggest headache getting good people reliably out there. its an endess chase, and people you thought were reliable can grow stale and complacent without oversight. for instance, i had to fire a plumber ive used out there for 10 years, becuase every job started to cost more than 2k and require 5 guys to do. the tenants were starting to comment about it as well.

 

[jmiller_2308]

Check the jobs report that is just out. Claims that more jobs are available but that the supply of available laborers is at its lowest since 1978. Read further that available workers dropped 806,000 people from March to April. So did 806,000 people get jobs or is it just easier for them to go back to the extended unemployment benefits.

 

[volleyball]

They don't count the people out of work for a long time. It's all a numbers game. What good if a low pay job is 1000 miles away or you don't have the skills to get the job.

 

[Lassen Forge]

We hired a guy who came recommended by our real estate agent... said he could get stuff done right now.

Wellll... he subbed everythng out, argued about every ******* detail, he kept telling us how he had to do the job etc. etc... took about 7 days to get at the 50% point, and took 3 months and lots of cajoling, pleading, and threatening to get him to finish... and even then, the quality was 1/4 assed (didn't even rate to halfassed), his so-called "electrician buddy" left holes in walls, left outlets hanging, installed unasked-for stuff, chunked the install of the main breaker panel, broke some handmade (and ancient) wall tiles trying to so a job "easier" (think he was a drunk tweaker)... Tried to pawn off this non-spec bathtub and when we caught him (funny how a cast iron tub doesn't sound like sheet metal, eh?) and really fucked up the tile job and even then didn't tile the ceiling of the tub enclosure... Same with his "painter buddy", the only people he had that were worth a **** were the people he hired to tile the back half of the house (stellar workmen) and he fired them because "they cost him too much"... all the while, he'd snivel and ***** how "he was losing money on this job"...

And then to end it all, he tried to blame *us* that the job wasn't completed on time and get a "late finish" penalty of about 120%. Yeah, as if. Referred him to our lawyer, and never heard from this piece of work again.

Found another guy, he worked with his brother in law, and they were spot on stellar. Worked his **** off, jobs ended ahead of spec and beautiful, and if he couldn't do it, he knew someone who could. I was really sad when we moved, told him I wished we could take him with us, but he said no way, business was booming. ;-)

Now for the fun - we had to have our driveway done... called a few people, got the basic runaround from most, found one, tho, who was a commercial contractor... dropped off the equipment the night before, came in with 2 truckloads of gravel, did the job, had extra guys there to get it done - I had to work that morning, so I was on eggshells, expecting the worst, and came home, the job was beautiful. So yeah, there ARE contractors out there who will do the job, but yo have to sort through all the chaff to find them... and even then, there's a bit of luck involved.

 

[b-body-bob]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

I'm thinking of switching careers and selling elio motors vehicles.

It's no different in any other line of work. You don't know how many times I wished I had taken up a trade like a welder or machinist instead of college. But I'd also worked as a mech prior to and through my 1st round of college so I had already seen the world away from a desk and it's the same.

Maybe you could look for a different industry. I don't know what your background is, but if I was young and willing to relocate, there would be nothing that could keep me away from Space-X or one of its subs. There is no use for slackers in the space industry, and with friction resuming between us and Russia, the future is wide open for domestic launch services.

 

[Mike007]

My #1 peeve with contractors, when they try to tell me the part of the job I have to do.

"You get the permits....Paint....tile....grout....roofing material...."

Thats why I'm hiring someone, because I don't have the time to do it myself. Even when I tell them upfront that I expect them to handle every aspect of the job, they still try to drop stuff in my lap.

 

[Lassen Forge]

(1) I'd get another contractor if they pulled that. THEY'RE the professional, they should have the contacts for pulling permits and sourcing std or better materials @ wholesale.
(2) I also spec what they're putting in. They try to sub cheapchit for what I spec, they replace it on their dime. (see bathtub, above...). But they pick it up and install it.

 

[jmarkwolf]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

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[jmarkwolf]

I've been using Angies List lately and am real happy with contractors I've gotten.

Means a lot to see feedback from those that have used them prior.

 

[Bobdog]

I went through this with several "contractors" over the years.

Hate to say it, but the the only job I've had done on my house is the one I hired Home Depot to do. The subs were on time, neat, clean, polite, worked their asses off and finished ahead of schedule. The quality of the work was impeccable and the Home Depot gave me 24 month interest free financing.

I know who I'm calling from now on.

 

[brownbagg]

you know a contractor is a CON with a TRACTOR

 

[teal95]

Why I have been doing most of my own work on everything. I come out about even after buying all the tools to do the job and next time I have the tools. And the work is done to my standards. It might take me a little longer (I've been building a garden shed for 4 weeks now...) but I know what I've got.

steve

 

[Diesel Dan]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

I wish the same could be said of my co-workers. Many can't be bothered to get in before 10:00, take at least an hour lunch, and somehow are all running for the door at 3:00. When they are in the office they are busy chatting and rarely does it seam that anybody attempts to meet the commitments they make.

How is it that they have not been fired?
Even the union shops I've been in would have fired people with that kind of attendance record.

 

[iibgdi]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

I'm guessing the contractor plans to come back in a couple days.

I do think that many small contractors have a hard time saying "I'm sorry, I'm just too busy right now to take on another job."

Partly because they don't want to turn away business and partly because they are unorganized and can't keep on task.

So in turn, they jump from job to job putting out fires and dealing with the "squeaky wheels" causing them to run extremely inefficient and take much longer to get a single job done than it should. They end up ******* everyone off and it's bad for business.

Even if they do good work, they upset people.

They would be better off being honest and saying that they are swamped and can't promise they will be there OR turn the job down.

 

[willymakeit]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

I paid a contractor to install pavers and new sod at my daughters house. He was upset when I wrote and addendum to the contract that included a "performance clause". $100/day penalty for not starting on the agreed upon date and completing the work in the agreed upon number of days. Both clauses stated that the dates could be changed if both parties agreed. There were several other items listed that had been verbally agreed on. Reluctantly he signed it.

I sidewalk supervised the whole job and became quiet friendly with the crew and the owner, who did real work ! The job ran over and I never said a word. In fact I gave a tip to the workers.

I did this on a roof job also. I think everything on the addendum had already verbally agreed upon and the owner signed it with no issues. The day they started, I handed the addendum with the owners signature to the job site supervisor. I also let him know I would be supervising and taking pictures. The supervisor discussed it with several of his workers. With me snapping pictures everything went smooth.

If it is not in writing, it hasn't been said !

Did you pay him a extra 100 a day for every day he was early ?

 

[volleyball]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

How is it that they have not been fired?
Even the union shops I've been in would have fired people with that kind of attendance record.

Because you don't understand the nature of the work. And a coworker who does not pal around with these people have no idea of what they are doing.
The computer field is not like a factory worker who can only work in the shop. Not like a construction job where you have to be there, but can be a bit more efficient than the next guy.
Even managers. I had one that if it was a beautiful, quiet day, would take off to play golf while the grunts had their work to do, and bitching was their biggest task if you heard them complain. Finally I told them that he had worked 16 hrs over the beautiful weekend when they were out enjoying themselves and not working. And him taking 4 hours wasn't much compensation. And how did I know that? Because I also had worked, just not as long. They still bitched.

 

[DekeT]

Re: Why can't people do there job?

Did you pay him a extra 100 a day for every day he was early ?

You are missing the point of the contract language by a significant margin.