Why the inspection

[MikeF2316]

sberry, I'd love to go out and have 6 - 8 beers with you. I'll bet I'd be laughing my *** off the whole time.

And I don't mean that as an insult.

 

[zmaxmotorsports]

 

[soj]

sberry, I'd love to go out and have 6 - 8 beers with you. I'll bet I'd be laughing my *** off the whole time.

And I don't mean that as an insult.

This thread may be the strawberry man's finest hour.

It reminds me of When Harry Met Sally. "I'll have what she is having". Well... I'll have whatever sberry is having.

 

[sberry]

I was considering some of the rational. I seem to hear some with this.
I think codes are some great sugestions but since I have no knowledge or training, experience that I should be able to do it any way I want sinceI don't understand what I am doing.

 

[checkthisout]

WRONG!

AFCIs are my only issue.

And I guess youve never heard of lobbysists!!!

Why are you guys against arc faults? I think they are good, problem is that I don't think the technology is up to speed yet.

 

[checkthisout]

I was considering some of the rational. I seem to hear some with this.
I think codes are some great sugestions but since I have no knowledge or training, experience that I should be able to do it any way I want sinceI don't understand what I am doing.

I eat my bread butter side down.

 

[frankush]

Why are you guys against arc faults? I think they are good, problem is that I don't think the technology is up to speed yet.

That's part of the issue right there. Code required, but who pays for the call back when they nuisance trip? It's hard to have happy customers when you install something that causes issues.

 

[Dragfluid]

I eat my bread butter side down.

The wife thinks I'm weird because I don't like gravy.

 

[MushCreek]

Both my shop vac and my compressor trip my AFCI's. They are current-generation breakers, manufactured in 2015, and there is nothing wrong with the devices I plug in. Around here, you were only required to have AFCI's on outlets that don't have GFI's, but that requirement recently changed, and you have to have AFCI's everywhere. So do I throw out my shop vac and compressor, and buy new ones? Luckily, I was grandfathered in, and didn't have to have AFCI's throughout. I hope I don't have to have them when I wire my detached barn. Gonna be hard to run a welder on an arc-fault.....

 

[egdede]

WRONG!

AFCIs are my only issue.

And I guess youve never heard of lobbysists!!!

In a Democracy we are allowed to participate. AFCI were in the NEC for a decade before being enforced in most jurisdictions. What did you do during this decade. How many letters did you write your congressman?

And, you still haven't given any evidence that AFCI is 'snake-oil'.

 

[theoldwizard1]

.... if I have a chance I upgrade it, changed one in a rental, could have legally left it but having a new legal wire has long range implications for resale.

This is the primary reason why people should upgrade to current code (where reasonable) and have inspections done.

Some Home "Inspectors" will call out current code violations, but if you have the paper work that says when it was installed it met all of the then current code, they can't say much.

 

[MushCreek]

When I sold my house in FL, I was required to upgrade to GFI outlets in the places where they are currently required, not when the house was built. They didn't exist when the house was built. I also had to upgrade the garage door to current hurricane ratings, which was a lot more expensive than the GFI's.

 

[Tim65GT]

I found this inside of a section of FMC when I remodeled an addition (1970s) to the back of my 1959 house. An inspection would not have caught this. This is just someone being friggin CHEAP.

http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Tim65GT/media/Remodel/WTF_zpswjsp3sod.jpg.html

 

[sberry]

I am not sure they would be required everywhere in a garage but the solution is to put them on a dedicated circuit. I wouldn't want to run welders and comp from a general unless absolutely had to.

 

[sberry]

This is the primary reason why people should upgrade to current code (where reasonable) and have inspections done.

Some Home "Inspectors" will call out current code violations, but if you have the paper work that says when it was installed it met all of the then current code, they can't say much.

You don't need paperwork. Labeling of wire and methods indicate the code cycle it was under. The one I did wouldn't have passed when it was done, some joker got it slid by with wire that was out dated then, didn't staple properly and had some polarity issues with switch loops and single conductors in 3 ways.
Then a handyman threw in his little pitch during furnace work and water heater replacement.

 

[checkthisout]

This is the primary reason why people should upgrade to current code (where reasonable) and have inspections done.

Some Home "Inspectors" will call out current code violations, but if you have the paper work that says when it was installed it met all of the then current code, they can't say much.

That's what we did when we remodeled a deceased in-laws house so we could sell it for more money.

Inspections and permits made all the difference in the world when it came to first impressions. It showed that we did it with love!

 

[Dragfluid]

I found this inside of a section of FMC when I remodeled an addition (1970s) to the back of my 1959 house. An inspection would not have caught this. This is just someone being friggin CHEAP.

http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Tim65GT/media/Remodel/WTF_zpswjsp3sod.jpg.html

Lutefisk

 

[Amazingglazier]

Of course you would! That is what is code in the Illinois area , piped electric. Yet there was a huge Chicago fire some years back???????? Hummmmmmmmmmmm?