To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

Why you should wear face protection when using an angle grinder.

To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

PelicanPines

ALLIANCE MEMBER
Joined
Apr 30, 2014
Messages
38,107
Location
New Jersey, USA, Earth, My own reality
I always use a face shield... respirator... and blade shield... I have a few 9 finger friends... and I was hit in the eye as a tween by a paperclip during a slingshot fight. I keep the face shield and respirator in a "Cat In The Hat" backpack ... hanging from my Snap-On/HF 5 drawer cart.
 

PoorUB

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 29, 2021
Messages
11,626
Location
Fargo, ND
I admit, I don't wear a face shield. Where I used to work I asked the shop foreman for a 4-1/2" angle grinder he handed it to me and I noticed there was not a wheel guard. I asked him where the guard was and got a bunch of "don't be a sissy" flack from him. I asked him if he had ever had a grinding wheel explode and told him if he had he would want the guard in place. He gave me some more flack and found the guard and I put it on. I noticed a week later the guard was missing.
 

Walkers

Well-known member
Joined
May 17, 2021
Messages
3,912
Location
Cave Creek Az
The video is faked! That is not what happens when those disks disintegrate, and not what happens when they hit face shield. I caught the guy that made it and was trying to pass it off as legit on my welding board some time ago.
I agree with wearing proper PPE, and not removing guards, but this is not the result of that.
 

PelicanPines

ALLIANCE MEMBER
Joined
Apr 30, 2014
Messages
38,107
Location
New Jersey, USA, Earth, My own reality
The video is faked! That is not what happens when those disks disintegrate, and not what happens when they hit face shield. I caught the guy that made it and was trying to pass it off as legit on my welding board some time ago.
I agree with wearing proper PPE, and not removing guards, but this is not the result of that.
But it's a good reminder for the "limited thinkers"
 

Dan in Pasadena

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 18, 2009
Messages
13,129
Location
Pasadena, CA
Here's another picture I've saved to remind me of the exact same thing.

This guy was lucky the broken disc hit his lens. Lower and it would have cut right through his face into his sinus cavity!257ABC85-2F3C-4088-B728-463BE4E890C3_1_105_c.jpeg
 

GaryM909

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 11, 2016
Messages
1,521
Location
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
About 25 years ago a zip disc broke and a piece hit my nose. No guard on . It bled all the way to the doctor’s office and I ended up with 4 stitches. I haven’t used a grinder without a guard or double eye protection since. I still have a small scar to remind me.
 

kelpaso1

MEMBER EMERITUS
Joined
Sep 28, 2009
Messages
3,962
Location
New Brunswick
The video is faked! That is not what happens when those disks disintegrate, and not what happens when they hit face shield. I caught the guy that made it and was trying to pass it off as legit on my welding board some time ago.
I agree with wearing proper PPE, and not removing guards, but this is not the result of that.
BS! Even if THAT particular vid may be fake, that could 100% happen to anyone using a cut off wheel on a grinder without the guard.
 

Walkers

Well-known member
Joined
May 17, 2021
Messages
3,912
Location
Cave Creek Az
BS! Even if THAT particular vid may be fake, that could 100% happen to anyone using a cut off wheel on a grinder without the guard.
I have been using cut off wheels for 40 years. I generally order 75 a month. There is NO WAY that particular thing can happen. None. There is way too much give in the face mask. Perhaps if you had a light speed grinder and were working in a frictionless environment, but I haven’t seen one of those since my physics exams in college.
 

kelpaso1

MEMBER EMERITUS
Joined
Sep 28, 2009
Messages
3,962
Location
New Brunswick
I have been using cut off wheels for 40 years. I generally order 75 a month. There is NO WAY that particular thing can happen. None. There is way too much give in the face mask.
How can you say that? I have had disks fly apart on me and hit the wall, my leg. my arm. Don't tell me that cant happen because it DOES!
 

BruceMc

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
2,166
Location
Fairbanks, AK
How can you say that? I have had disks fly apart on me and hit the wall, my leg. my arm. Don't tell me that cant happen because it DOES!

Thing of it is, take a good look at those pictures and then, assuming the guards were in place, try to imagine the position you would have to be in while cutting for those fragments to hit you directly in the face. It would be like looking down the barrel of a gun.
 

kelpaso1

MEMBER EMERITUS
Joined
Sep 28, 2009
Messages
3,962
Location
New Brunswick
Thing of it is, take a good look at those pictures and then, assuming the guards were in place, try to imagine the position you would have to be in while cutting for those fragments to hit you directly in the face. It would be like looking down the barrel of a gun.
A lot of people remove the guards because they get in the way. If you do you have to be mindful if a disc should break and fly apart. I always use safety glasses as a minimum, but also use a face shield also with glasses. Too easy for a chunk to come flying at you and hit you in the face.
 
Last edited:

Dan in Pasadena

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 18, 2009
Messages
13,129
Location
Pasadena, CA
I have been using cut off wheels for 40 years. I generally order 75 a month. There is NO WAY that particular thing can happen. None. There is way too much give in the face mask. Perhaps if you had a light speed grinder and were working in a frictionless environment, but I haven’t seen one of those since my physics exams in college.
Hey, NOT trying to be insulting but the wisened old man saying, "I've been doing this for X years, sonny and there's NO WAY it can happen" only lacks "Get the hell off my lawn you damn kids!" to be perfectly stereotypical.

I don't see WHY anyone would fake such videos? Ok, yeah MAYBE if you in the selling face shields business but otherwise? From a construction standpoint I can tell you for certain anything that can go wrong WILL eventually go "not right" and sometimes totally wrong.
 

Walkers

Well-known member
Joined
May 17, 2021
Messages
3,912
Location
Cave Creek Az
Hey, NOT trying to be insulting but the wisened old man saying, "I've been doing this for X years, sonny and there's NO WAY it can happen" only lacks "Get the hell off my lawn you damn kids!" to be perfectly stereotypical.

I don't see WHY anyone would fake such videos? Ok, yeah MAYBE if you in the selling face shields business but otherwise? From a construction standpoint I can tell you for certain anything that can go wrong WILL eventually go "not right" and sometimes totally wrong.
I called him out on it on the welding forum and he freely admitted that it was staged, so there should be no doubt.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

Walkers

Well-known member
Joined
May 17, 2021
Messages
3,912
Location
Cave Creek Az
How can you say that? I have had disks fly apart on me and hit the wall, my leg. my arm. Don't tell me that cant happen because it DOES!
I am not saying they don’t break apart, and FYI that is almost all user error, because you dropped the grinder, or hit the disk in some fashion. What I am saying is it doesn’t go through a perfect groove in a face shield like shown in the video. I have had a great many of them break apart, that is not how they behave.
 

John in OH

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 2, 2007
Messages
2,444
Location
SE Ohio & Eastern Virginia
At the coal fired power plant where I used to work, PPE was a high priority. Any maintenance mechanic that failed to use the specified PPE when doing a job was subject to immediate dismissal. And, the best part of it all was that the union refused to intervene in PPE-related dismissals.

Use of side-grinders required safety glasses, face shield, hearing protection, and disc guard. Break the rules? Technically, plant security would ****** you to the door.
 

Augus7us

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 14, 2017
Messages
1,190
Location
Central Ohio
I've been cutting a lot of t&g for the shop with a circular saw lately. I was lazy and not wearing my large safety glasses. I cut a board last night and hit a knot that exploded in my face and a piece ended up locking my saw up. A sobering reminder to not be a lazy *** and put the glasses on.
 

reader2580

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 31, 2014
Messages
14,516
Location
Minneapolis, MN
I never knew that grinding and cutoff wheels have expiration dates. I would bet that pretty much every grinding or cutoff wheel I own is beyond the expiration date. I sometimes use up cutoff wheels, but it has been many years since I used up a grinding wheel.
 

Mallen

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 11, 2021
Messages
649
I always try to wear safety glasses under the faceshield when grinding as well. Sparks love to bounce behind the face shield...
I was wearing a pair of safety glasses when grinding with an angle grinder. Somehow alarm got behind my glasses and into my eye. I had to go to the optha.ologist and have him pull it out with a pair of tweezers. Now I wear safety glasses that have a foam seal. Having a burn on your eye ball and a chunk of so.ething stuck in it is no fun. I was lucky that it ended up off to the side and not right in the middle of the cornea where it would have affected my vision. I got the lecture from the eye doctor to be more careful. (That's what I like about him, he doesn't sugar coat things.)
 

Mallen

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 11, 2021
Messages
649
What I find surprising is a couple of youtube channels I follow and they never wear PPE. No gloves, no safety glasses for welding and using a chainsaw - really? Wear it and stay safe!
I tried arc welding without having every square inch of skin and my eyes covered ONCE when I was young and stupid. (Now I'm old and stupid but at least I wear ppe). Arc flash burns are no fun.
 

FMB4

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 19, 2017
Messages
2,926
What I find surprising is a couple of youtube channels I follow and they never wear PPE. No gloves, no safety glasses for welding and using a chainsaw - really? Wear it and stay safe!
Yep, used to see it all the time. I don't watch YT stuff much anymore, so I don't know if it's still as prevalent as it was 4-5 yrs. ago.
 

Dan in Pasadena

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 18, 2009
Messages
13,129
Location
Pasadena, CA
What I find surprising is a couple of youtube channels I follow and they never wear PPE. No gloves, no safety glasses for welding and using a chainsaw - really? Wear it and stay safe!
Back in ancient times when I was in high school (‘68-‘72) there was a safety video they showed us that was old back then. A kid in shop class was drilling something in a drill press. He had long hair in a pony tail and it was tied back but one little strand fell forward and in an instant it was grabbed by the drill press, SLAMMED his head into the front of the press and pulled off about a 1” round chunk of his scalp!. The bare skull was exposed and totally white for a second then started bleeding like his head had been cut off. I’ve taken shop safety very seriously ever since I saw that!
 

FMB4

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 19, 2017
Messages
2,926
@ Dan; in '73 or 4, my HS metal shop/class would have new/beginning students view a slide show that, in part, had an image of a large 'chunk' of long light colored and bloodied hair wrapped up in the drill/chuck of floor drill press. Real, or not, it was not pretty.
 

Rst277

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 25, 2013
Messages
1,700
Location
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Dang! That would wake you up!! You couldn't show that video today, the parents would freak out. I watch Matt's Off Road Recovery and his pal Fabrats - no PPE at all. Other than that, great guys and entertaining to watch.
 

Walkers

Well-known member
Joined
May 17, 2021
Messages
3,912
Location
Cave Creek Az
You guys crack me up, criticizing me and giving me Angry emojis for doing ought but point out the truth. I didn’t post the phony video, I didn’t take it down. Again, all I did was post the only about it.
 

BruceMc

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
2,166
Location
Fairbanks, AK
I tried arc welding without having every square inch of skin and my eyes covered ONCE when I was young and stupid. (Now I'm old and stupid but at least I wear ppe). Arc flash burns are no fun.

Back in the day, in shop class, me and a friend used to pull the curtain on the welding booth, slip out of our shirts, strike an arc, then 'tan' ourselves. :confused:

Young and dumb. Older and wiser me now wonders what I may be in store for down the line.
 

Viper98912

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 20, 2012
Messages
1,124
Location
GA
I think having worked in a manufacturing facility has really made me self aware of using PPE. I wish more people would have this experience so they could understand the importance of PPE.

No matter what it is, heck, even just drilling a screw into the sheetrock, I wear safety glasses. I honestly feel odd NOT wearing anything. Grinding/cutting, + faceshield + earplugs.

There's a lot of times when you're in a rush and then I think to myself "stop you dumba....taking an extra 3 minutes to adjust this setup to something a little better might save a lifetime of regret".

We all need our eyes, ears, fingers, arms, legs, etc for a lifetime.
 

InsanePyro

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 27, 2012
Messages
2,195
Location
Oconomowoc, WI
I've had a handful of grinder disks break and hit me in the gut, barely even bruises me. I have a hard time believing they can do that kind of damage.

Here's another picture I've saved to remind me of the exact same thing.

This guy was lucky the broken disc hit his lens. Lower and it would have cut right through his face into his sinus cavity!257ABC85-2F3C-4088-B728-463BE4E890C3_1_105_c.jpeg

Also terribly faked, thats not how those come apart.
 

kelpaso1

MEMBER EMERITUS
Joined
Sep 28, 2009
Messages
3,962
Location
New Brunswick
I've had a handful of grinder disks break and hit me in the gut, barely even bruises me. I have a hard time believing they can do that kind of damage.



Also terribly faked, thats not how those come apart.
Why are there so many deniers here? I have had discs break apart just like that a few times if I got them jammed in a cut. My grinders guards are removed also but am aware what can happen so always wear glasses and face shield when using them.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
Top Bottom