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Jakesnake317

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We love everything about the house, other than the fact we can't utilize all garage space for parking. I desperately want to get my jeep out of the weather but unfortunately it's a tuff task in and out trying to wiggle it back and forth into the closed section of the garage. The existing garage door is 12 foot, Plus a walk in door on the other side. I would like to cut to the walk in door opening, bust afew blocks out of the way and call it a day. Total opening length would be bumped up to 16ft-7 or so inches for a door. Could I special order a garage door other than a standard 16 ft? i come here in hopes that this task has been done before..i have plenty of other questions!!f8c7bc58bced028d636b4c6f5d81cfd0.jpg


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First thing would be to check which way your joists are running up in your ceiling and make sure there isn't any support dependent on that area between the garage & man door.
 

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You'd have to remove the door, remove the drywall as well as exterior trim and such, and jack the are to support the load until you remove the wall between the garage and man door and until you place a header or laminated beam to carry the load then proceed as needed
 

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First thing would be to check which way your joists are running up in your ceiling and make sure there isn't any support dependent on that area between the garage & man door.

this. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a post between the two doors. with that said, I would expect an engineer can spec a beam that would span the opening you want to create.
 

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I have more questions than answers.
Load carrying has been answered.

You can order doors in increments of widths depending on the manufacture. Keep in mind you may not be able to use a raised panel door with out cutting down the middle of the panel. You may have to go with a flush door or ribbed depending on the width you decide to use. Go to a door company not a box store. You could even go 14' wide if you have to work with span issue's . That may not get you in the garage though.
 

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Rent convenient delivery truck from Home Desperate, take full insurance coverage
Insert wife into 1 ton dually.
Instruct wife to put truck in garage.
Walk in house and grab insurance policy.
After hearing loud sound call 911
Look into severity of wife & truck damage, in that order.
Call insurance carrier
They will send contractors to rebuild damaged garage.
You save a lot of money.
 

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Rent convenient delivery truck from Home Desperate, take full insurance coverage
Insert wife into 1 ton dually.
Instruct wife to put truck in garage.
Walk in house and grab insurance policy.
After hearing loud sound call 911
Look into severity of wife & truck damage, in that order.
Call insurance carrier
They will send contractors to rebuild damaged garage.
You save a lot of money.

Wouldnt they just rebuild what he had???
 
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Jakesnake317

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Rent convenient delivery truck from Home Desperate, take full insurance coverage
Insert wife into 1 ton dually.
Instruct wife to put truck in garage.
Walk in house and grab insurance policy.
After hearing loud sound call 911
Look into severity of wife & truck damage, in that order.
Call insurance carrier
They will send contractors to rebuild damaged garage.
You save a lot of money.
Haha!! Don't tempt me, I'm desperate.

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Jakesnake317

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Thank all of you guys for your help. Luckily i just found out my dad knows the "actual builder" for the home, so he can either shed some light or fix me up, for a hefty price I'm sure. On another good note, I could actually go with a 17 foot door. Some few odd inches would have to be shaved on the other side, but it looks totally doable

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Franz1.0©

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2 tracks can be supported on 2" of shared casing.

Damn little weight from the door is transferred to vertical tracks.
 

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Thank all of you guys for your help. Luckily i just found out my dad knows the "actual builder" for the home, so he can either shed some light or fix me up, for a hefty price I'm sure. On another good note, I could actually go with a 17 foot door. Some few odd inches would have to be shaved on the other side, but it looks totally doable

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You can do this yourself. Build a temp wall, demo it, put in a header, and finish. Call the door people and have it installed. Spend 300$ and have a engineer design the header.

Did one myself about 15 years ago. Just need some buddies to lift the beam.
 

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Great links, thanks.

Now you know where engineers who get $300 for designing a header get their design from. Keep it secret though, it's kind of like Professional garage door technicians with a PHD in torsion Spring.

Would you believe there are even sites with barn and shed plans already paid for by taxpayers? That's where engineers get barn & shed plans.
 
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Jakesnake317

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You can do this yourself. Build a temp wall, demo it, put in a header, and finish. Call the door people and have it installed. Spend 300$ and have a engineer design the header.

Did one myself about 15 years ago. Just need some buddies to lift the beam.
Good write up, I've just about got it all figured out

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Thanks again everyone for your input and time of the day, very helpful information.

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Now you know where engineers who get $300 for designing a header get their design from. Keep it secret though, it's kind of like Professional garage door technicians with a PHD in torsion Spring.

Would you believe there are even sites with barn and shed plans already paid for by taxpayers? That's where engineers get barn & shed plans.

I dont use other peoples designs, I use my own spreadsheets. Anyone can design a beam from a website. Not everyone can stamp them with a PE seal.

Anytime I design a beam like that I include a site visit, so I can have eyes on the situation and reduce my liability.

Most states its illegal to practice engineering without a license, so do be careful about offering to do designs.

I dont know what engineers you deal with, but if they are downloading **** from the internet, you are not using the right engineer.

Since this project is a visible one, its likely the building official will catch wind of it, and yes they will then require a sealed design for your header most of the time.
 

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I dont use other peoples designs, I use my own spreadsheets. Anyone can design a beam from a website. Not everyone can stamp them with a PE seal.

Anytime I design a beam like that I include a site visit, so I can have eyes on the situation and reduce my liability.

Most states its illegal to practice engineering without a license, so do be careful about offering to do designs.

I dont know what engineers you deal with, but if they are downloading **** from the internet, you are not using the right engineer.

Since this project is a visible one, its likely the building official will catch wind of it, and yes they will then require a sealed design for your header most of the time.

And where did your spreadsheets come from?
Exactly how long does it take to call your spread sheet up on screen?

You said it ALL when you said "reduce my liability".

Here in the Real World, I can shoot 10 pictures, email them to a Licensed PE and have printable stamped drawings back inside 2 hours because Time costs MONEY when a job stops. Inspectors are a joke. The government building inspector got the job as a lateral transfer from his former job as dog catcher. Insurance carrier inspectors are college interns who are lucky their hardhat doesn't fall in the ditch they're looking at. The owner's inspector has his hand out looking for a donation 75% of the time.
 

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And where did your spreadsheets come from?
Exactly how long does it take to call your spread sheet up on screen?

You said it ALL when you said "reduce my liability".

Here in the Real World, I can shoot 10 pictures, email them to a Licensed PE and have printable stamped drawings back inside 2 hours because Time costs MONEY when a job stops. Inspectors are a joke. The government building inspector got the job as a lateral transfer from his former job as dog catcher. Insurance carrier inspectors are college interns who are lucky their hardhat doesn't fall in the ditch they're looking at. The owner's inspector has his hand out looking for a donation 75% of the time.

I write my own spread sheets based on the code, that way I can know they are correct. Most engineers do this.

My computer can load a spread sheet in about 10 seconds. Having the correct information to put in the spreadsheet depends on the job. Most times I require a site visit to verify the information.

Thats why people hire engineers, its to reduce liability. You dont think I am going to do the same thing? I should just trust you that your situation is what you say it is?

I work in the real world. Most of my clients have the engineering done up front, so they dont have to stop jobs and do a hasty design to get you going again.

If its a project I have already designed and there are issues, then I can usually resolve over the phone. If a new stamped drawing is required, i can agree that can be done in a couple hours.

Not sure why you are ranting about inspectors. I am not an inspector.

How much does your PE charge per hour, or is he on retainer?

Just because engineering is a service and not a commodity, does not mean it should be free.
 
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