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iandh

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Happy with knipex coming out of the closet and putting little tags that show the last strippers I bought were from taiwan, and the cable cutters from japan, there used to be just no statement on all the items not made in germany, now at least its on a sticker that you throw away on the packaging... The real problem is the entry into stuffmarts, it always ends in compramizes.

We'll see, TBH I don't think Knipex has ever manufactured a crappy tool in house.

Just being sold at lowes isn't damning in and of itself for me. The Knipex is sold in the electricians section next to quite a few other high quality professional quality tools, and is totally segregated from all of the import crapola on the other side of the store.

Maybe some future import line or something, but just about every tool company on the planet now has an import line.




As far as wihatools.com, I also get the feeling that it's just a bunch of whatever the rest of the world doesn't want being dumped on us. I don't plan to place any orders there, the site gives me the heebs.
 
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Monte

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Wiha USA probably wants to give the customer the opportunity to order a complete selection of hand tools from their site. Other companies also offer tools under their name which they don`t manufacture like Felo (pliers) or now manufacture other tools to broaden their tool lineup like Wera who makes sockets/ratchets now too. So if the quality is good why not ??


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this pic was just posted in a other thread:
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FNFS2000

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nothing wrong with a store selling other items, problem is when a store claims the other items to be made by another manufacturer. nothing wrong with a manufacturer getting another quality manufacturer to private label some products, but thats not whats happening here. The minnesota store buys chinese canvas bags and prints their own labels on cheap plastic sleeves or cardboard boxes that claim these oddball imported from around the globe items to be WIHA tools, which they are not...

Like I said I'd probably have no problem if I were in europe. The way they operate here just rubs me the wrong way.

pulled from another thread written by jononon;
"You've missed the point. Wihatools.com is a sales subsidiary, but it's a subsidiary that has been allowed to operate in a bizarre pseudo-manufacturer role.

For example, they package German Wiha bits together with mediocre Chinese bit holders, in the USA, producing an inferior product that is marketed as Wiha but is not manufactured by or for the manufacturing arm of the company. "

My understanding has alway been that they are really much much less than a subsidiary, its just a private business that has the currrent exclusive right to import the stuff just like bondhus with felo or like "count on" with PB swiss.

They repack everything and assign new part numbers that have no relation to germany or whats printed on the tools its just wierd. No problem with "real" wiha tools, I guess if there were something new I really wanted from them, I'd have it shipped from a brit store and bypass the BS. Its really needed anyways if you want something new and don't want to wait 5 years for wihatools.com to import some.

Maybe in a few years you can get the inomic cutters with dual blade bevels that wiha has been selling in europe for years, the inner heavy duty and precise flush cutting at the tip. I had to return the ones I waited forever to get here and order them from an ebay seller in the UK.
 

bigrob26

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I was under the impression from several sources that WIHATools.com is a private dealer that also happens to be the exclusive US importer. Never see any other manufacturers compete with their distributor base. And their site never lines up with the real wiha which has different versions for england and several other countries.

I don't see the chisels, punches, wrenches, Heyco socket line, a line of swedish crimping tools, that corny chinese neck light and who knows what else in the German site. US stock is always a decade behind what it shows at WIHA.de like they get a good deal on all the closeout stuff and thats all we can get here in the states. Whats with the cheapo inomic pliers this side of the atlantic?:headscrat

Wihatools.com is owned and operated by wiha as far as im concerned.
now the fact that the tools never line up with the german website, here is a quote from an email i sent to wihatools.com asking about this issue:

"Some of the items in Germany do not get brought into the USA for a variety
of reasons, It's kind of like the car manufacturers only offering the best
selling models worldwide, and other models that are produced locally stay in
the local market only. Did you know that Ford makes a hard top convertible
Focus that they only sell in Europe? So the short answer is NO, we will not
offer these designs in the USA as they have not sold well in Europe, the
price is 35% higher and there are functional problems in the materials they
are using."

the specific question i asked was about the diferences in the inomic pliers, but this basically covers the rest of the items not available in the USA.

on a side note: wrenches, sockets, and ratchets are made by HEYCO in Germany, and wiha germany as well as wihatools usa use wrenches, sockets and ratchets with their own insulation as their insulated line.

tweezers: wiha uses tweezers made by VOMM Germany to make ESD safe tweezers using their own ESD safe coating.

crimpers: crimpers are made by pressmaster inc. and wiha just buys them and sells them in usa. im pretty sure pressmaster knows that wihatools.com is putting a wihatools.com sticker on their product, so who really cares???
they are still quality tools....

the wrenches, chisels, punches, sockets & ratchets, crimpers, and tweezers are similar to a car, for example a Geo Metro. GM buys a blank car from SUZUKI and puts a GM label on it. so is it a GM or is it a SUZUKI? and the big question: is this reason enough for one to stop buying GM automobiles????

Wiha USA probably wants to give the customer the opportunity to order a complete selection of hand tools from their site. Other companies also offer tools under their name which they don`t manufacture like Felo (pliers) or now manufacture other tools to broaden their tool lineup like Wera who makes sockets/ratchets now too. So if the quality is good why not ??

you hit the nail right on the head....
its too bad all these people are badmouthing buisnesses for doing things that are usually considered common practice.
that is why i originally joined this site, to see what other people say about certain tools
i mean it is totally justifiable to badmouth a company if all of the tools you bought from them failed and caused a problem, but dont skew somebody from buying something just because the country of origin or business practice doesnt match up with your paradigm.:wtf:

im done here.
 

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I've been putting together a complete Wiha driver set (screw/nut/hex/torx). Much better than the Crapsman Pro that I'm replacing.
 

iandh

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Wiha USA probably wants to give the customer the opportunity to order a complete selection of hand tools from their site. Other companies also offer tools under their name which they don`t manufacture like Felo (pliers) or now manufacture other tools to broaden their tool lineup like Wera who makes sockets/ratchets now too. So if the quality is good why not ??

It's not necessarily the quality, it's that it seems that we're ending up with all the **** the rest of the world doesn't want, and/or getting things years after the rest of the world has them.

If we can get newer, better stuff for a comparable price elsewhere, it's kind of hard to shop there for those particular items at least, and being that I'm a "buy it all at once from one place" kind of guy if I can help it, it makes it hard to shop there in general.
 

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To see the original Wiha tool lineup in Europe you can look here: http://wiha.com/england

Most items we have here you also find in the US. The new retaining ring pliers, and other new stuff is not yet listed but they were released in april this year in germany so it can take a while to arrive in the US.

Like already mentioned the supplied not original Wiha tools are all made by name brand manufacturers like the "Heyco" hand tools from germany, the Pressmaster crimping pliers "made in sweden" (also offered by "Gedore" in germany) and the Wiha screwdrivers and bits are still made here, hammers too, measuring tool from switzerland etc.

Wiha tools are sold by a lot of retailers so it is also not necessary to buy direct from Wihatools.com
 
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FNFS2000

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I would guess big defensive rob from MN with almost no other posts works for the store wihatools.com too? 6 posts and only 6 posts all about WIHA including a few pictures of unused WIHA tools...
 
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bigrob26

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i love how everybody here makes so many assumptions.
no i do not work for wihatools.com
and the tools appear unused in the photos because i took pictures when i bought them before use
the reason why i defend wiha tools is because first of all, my uncle is VP of wihatools.com, and, i originally joined this site to ask/read about wiha tools, and despite all the negative things i read, i have in no way been disappointed with them, considering that i actually got the tools and not just basing my judgements on a rumor.
 

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Teken,

Did you ever get those Extra Heavy Duty micro finish screwdrivers? I'm interested in what you think of them, their finish, quality, etc. Thanks.
 
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Teken,

Did you ever get those Extra Heavy Duty micro finish screwdrivers? I'm interested in what you think of them, their finish, quality, etc. Thanks.

I placed my order with the Wiha USA site. The following day I received a e-mail stating they do not ship to Canada! :mad: They do how ever ship to any other 9999999999999999 countries, including those currently under civil war! :wtf:

Their site makes no mention that Canada is the only fucken token country that they no longer ship too. :tantrum2:

Because we (Canada) have our own site in which we are more than happy to **** our own citizens for more money, on the same ****** item! :monkey_po

So, of course I called and asked for the person on the e-mail. I was promptly pushed off to another person who supposedly deals with internet orders etc.

It was like talking to a ******* robot, and being treated like a K-Mart customer all at the same time . . . :confused: :wtf: :mad:

I explained to this person that I wished to spend my hard earned money (my money is just as green as anyone eles BTW) and pay for what ever extra shipping would be due for the order to be completed.

Once again, the robot lady stated (We don't ship to Canada) yet only last year or so they did . . . :headscrat :wtf: :mad:

As I asked her to explain the reasons to me the why, she basically told me to **** off.

I asked to speak to the manager or a supervisor, again she would not comply, but simply hung up the phone!

Now, I am a pretty reasonable guy . . . But, after that I pretty much went ape **** and went Ninja on them!

At the end of the day half of the order will be purchased with a help of a GJ member, and the other half will be purchased via the Canadian site.

Right now I am waiting for a few things to be sold, to free up some cash. If these pricks weren't the only game in town for the price for these tools I would gladly send them a box of ****, for the lack of customer support, customer service, and for that ***** of a female who is supposedly the customer relations for the order taking . . .

Why is it my life is Dependant upon some random 310 lbs fat slob clear across the nation?

Just kill me already . . . :(
 

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Teken,

Did you ever get those Extra Heavy Duty micro finish screwdrivers? I'm interested in what you think of them, their finish, quality, etc. Thanks.


I bought a set of them and don't like them but heres why. I work in the field as an HVAC Mech and Electrician so I'm not stationary and I have to carry my tools with me. They aren't kidding when they say extra heavy duty. They literally weigh three to four times what a comperable screwdriver would weigh. The finish on the hadle is nice and there is a ton of steel in them compared to a regular screwdriver. Unfortunately I have yet to use them as they weigh more than I'm willing to carry on the job. They have been delegated to my garage.

If you don't have to physically carry the weight of a set around with you they will probably be great for you.
 

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At the end of the day half of the order will be purchased with a help of a GJ member, and the other half will be purchased via the Canadian site.

As the way this company treated you wasn't what I would call "customer-friendly" I wonder why you don't move on to a different brand.

Have a nice weekend,

Chreese
 
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As the way this company treated you wasn't what I would call "customer-friendly" I wonder why you don't move on to a different brand.

Have a nice weekend,

Chreese

I haven't been able to find another brand with the features, style, build quality, and value for the dollar for the specific driver I require.

Otherwise I would have jumped ship long ago . . . :(
 
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