ISurvivednmu
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I watched a video on the Milwaukee one key drill and thought, that guy must cost some bank! I looked it up and it was $499..... for a drill....
Is it worth that?
Is it worth that?
Will anyone here pay $500 for a Milwaukee Drill?
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Rex_A_Lott
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If you're using it to make a living, maybe. For occasional home use, not for me on my paycheck. But for some others, its not a lot of money
Ign
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Not in the mood to deal you Youtube this morn. Do you have the Milwaukee part # or link to product?
People don't realize how prices have dropped in cordless technology. I paid around $450 for my V28 drill kit in 2005. So yes, I've paid almost that much, in 11-year old money.
People don't realize how prices have dropped in cordless technology. I paid around $450 for my V28 drill kit in 2005. So yes, I've paid almost that much, in 11-year old money.
LB-1911
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M18 FUEL™ 1/2" Hammer Drill/Driver with ONE-KEY™ Kit
https://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2706-22
What is the ONE-KEY™ to Unlocking the Digital Jobsite?
https://www.milwaukeetool.com/press-releases/what-is-the-one-key-to-unlocking-the-digital-jobsite
dnschmidt
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The one key is adding about $50 to the normal tool without it. Might be worth it.
Ign
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Ok the 2706. -22 denotes a kit w 2 batteries.
It's $350 at Toolbarn right now.
http://www.toolbarn.com/milwaukee-2706-22.html
That was just one of the first Google hits, may be cheaper elsewhere.
It's $350 at Toolbarn right now.
http://www.toolbarn.com/milwaukee-2706-22.html
That was just one of the first Google hits, may be cheaper elsewhere.
nutsnbolts
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Yes! But that someone is not me 
Zeke
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A smart drill? Come on. My phone and drill don't even belong on the same street.
dnschmidt
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They already have the one key in their 3/8" drive impact wrench. Now I don't know how they would do this but if they could tighten to a specific torque that would be absolutely killer.
BaMaDuDe87
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Uhhhhhhh not a chance.
Interesting idea, but seriously how practical can this really be? Being able to use a specific torque setting seems legit, but for a DIY'er who usually isn't doing the same job over and over and over again. I guess get that trophy and put it in the case.
Interesting idea, but seriously how practical can this really be? Being able to use a specific torque setting seems legit, but for a DIY'er who usually isn't doing the same job over and over and over again. I guess get that trophy and put it in the case.
The FIB
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Now I need my smart phone to help me drill a hole?
Just some more technology we don't need, go through 6 steps when we used to do it in 2.
Just some more technology we don't need, go through 6 steps when we used to do it in 2.
Roberts210
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I'd pay $500 for a Milwaukee drill, but not for cordless and made in China. I own a lot of Milwaukee tools, all corded, USA made, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Most expensive one is a big old 5300 Rotary Hammer that I've used to drill 1.5 inch holes in foundation walls. I've also used it as a demolition hammer. I bought it used in the late 1980's for over $300. There's a beat-up used one on ebay right now for $419 with NO bits. They are VERY heavy duty and can drill through concrete all day and all night if needed. Continuous duty.
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sammons
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I'd pay $500 for a Milwaukee drill, but not for cordless and made in China. I own a lot of Milwaukee tools, all corded, USA made, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Most expensive one is a big old 5300 Rotary Hammer that I've used to drill 1.5 inch holes in foundation walls. I've also used it as a demolition hammer. I bought it used in the late 1980's for over $300. There's a beat-up used one on ebay right now for $419 with NO bits. They are VERY heavy duty and can drill through concrete all day and all night if needed. Continuous duty.
now that's a drill. I would be tempted to give this to buddies for drywall/ deck jobs. it'll make a man out of you in a hurry.
Roberts210
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Yep. Either that or give ya a hernia, one or the other.
Every time I use it, I give up before it does.
Every time I use it, I give up before it does.
I bought a dozen of those kits around that time for all the main guys (keepers) that worked for me as a Christmas bonus. I remember paying something like 750 a kit which had all the cordless stuff, not just the drill. I tossed all my 28V **** just last night in the trash can. The batteries died years ago and I can't even tell you the reasoning for keeping them, but they're gone now. Cordless tools have there place for certain, but I've decided the are a consumable. At some point the technology outpaces the usefulness and it's best just to **** can the stuff when it dies. So I don't mind having 5-6 hundred in a set up, but it needs to have everything, not just a single drill.
Add to that it's made where??........ah ya, not for me.
Monkey Milk
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Only if it had a magnet on it
The Toolest Guy
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The difference is that Panasonic drills are actually worth the money you pay. There is a reason Panasonic is so popular in countries that know about them, and it has nothing to do with marketing (the reason why Milwaukee is popular)......
Notorious BRT
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Perhaps. Their lack of popularity could also stem from the fact they have a tiny tool line with no specialty tools whatsoever. Their awesome drill will do me little good when I need an electric ratchet.
drink
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Wow! My Milwaukee power tools are much lower in price. From what I understand the big power tools can get expensive.
GiantCranium
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I would never pay that for a Milwaukee drill. They may be good but there is a lot of hype towards them. Check out this drill. Hitachi ip56 Impact driver made in Japan.
GiantCranium
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Also why don't we get tradie grade hitachi in the states. Only home handyman grade
IUEC Medic
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This. I might spend $500 on a mag drill...
I wouldn't pay $500 for the fuel hammer drill/driver with one key... I paid under 300 for the fuel hammer drill/driver, impact driver and 2 batteries, brand new on EBay about 18 months ago.
IUEC Medic
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That may be changing... Hitachi recently bought Metabo.
The Toolest Guy
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Because you Americans are so obsessed with 'facts' that all you care about is the marketing numbers. You see it time and time again on this board where people mention that you should 'buy this brand because it has 5ft/lb more torque'. Australians are a little the same unfortunately. Although not as gullible as you Americans tend to be.
In Japan they favour quality more than marketing hype with big numbers.
The Toolest Guy
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Probably. I'm sure the engineers at Milwaukee realise that Panasonic drills are of a higher quality. But they are more expensive in general as well.
It should also be mentioned that the batteries in the Panasonic cordless tools are some of the best. They do after all specialise in manufacturing batteries.
Panasonic bought Sanyo (and their Eneloop battery brand) a few years back. Some of you may already know about the rave reviews on Eneloop rechargeable batteries.
They also don't try and rip off their customers to the new cool aid battery voltage upgrade. A number of their new tools are backwards compatible with their old lower voltage batteries.
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Ign
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I bought a dozen of those kits around that time for all the main guys (keepers) that worked for me as a Christmas bonus. I remember paying something like 750 a kit which had all the cordless stuff, not just the drill. I tossed all my 28V **** just last night in the trash can. The batteries died years ago and I can't even tell you the reasoning for keeping them, but they're gone now. Cordless tools have there place for certain, but I've decided the are a consumable. At some point the technology outpaces the usefulness and it's best just to **** can the stuff when it dies. So I don't mind having 5-6 hundred in a set up, but it needs to have everything, not just a single drill.
Add to that it's made where??........ah ya, not for me.
Too bad, I woulda taken it off your hands. I still use M28 stuff. Milwaukee went out on a limb w V28 li-ion at the time. They missed the mark on battery chemistry but got it right w M28 and the batteries are compatible.
Things like the portaband and grinder still perform as good as or better than M18 brushless, proving there's still "no replacement for displacement."
GiantCranium
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Don't be calling me American. I'm Australian. That's why I know how good other tool brands are. America has a lot of protectionism for there own brands. That's why Milwaukee is so big. (Even if it is made in China)
I guess your user name matches you pretty well...
So Anericans do not favor quality?? Thats funny, look at what a majority of Americans drive on the road. For example the best selling mid size truck is the Toyota Tacoma (made by a Japanese company if you did not know that..).
Your post is filled with your perception of your own opinion.
But since Americans are obsessed with facts I will oblige you:
Why Milwaukee is VERY popular today is not just because of marketing hype, they were a very well established company for a long time. Now think about those who do buy and use the tools (this also goes for Makita and DeWALT), the people that buy them are trying to be as productive as possible and cannot wait to have a tool take a week to arrive, cannot wait a week for a replacement. Thats why in the USA the big three power tools are Milwaukee, Makita and DeWALT. Sure there are companies that make a better drill in your eyes, but to others a Makita is better for them, or a DeWALT, or a Festool, or a Milwaukee.
Some people do not like a tool because of ergonomics, some do not like tools because of this and that. The FACT is there are MANY great tool companies that make an excellent tool and sure a company does make a drill thay is better than the big three in the USA but it doesnt mean the rest are junk... Milwaukee is getting a lot of praise because they do make a top notch tool and is easy to get, warranty is easy to deal with / done in a timely manner.
Take Snap-on for example, they make excellent tools! Are they the best at everything? No but the ease of the purchase/warranty/etc for those that use them works great for them. Are they for everyone? No. Same goes for Milwaukee/Makita/DeWALT. For some people a harbor frieght tool will suffice their needs.
Ign
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^^^^this. If you can't beat 'em join 'em. I used to be a diehard Audi guy. Right now my wife's transportation company runs a fleet of Mercedes sedans. In rural Colo. What a joke.
Just like my auto parts, I need my tools to be affordable and readily available. I gave up being an Audi snob and embraced 'Murican pushrod V8's. Honestly, best thing I ever did. I need my tools for work, don't need to be collecting boutique brands. If I was in Europe I'd do the same - I'd go see Monte and run the "Chevy 350" (ok I prefer the 5.3) of cordless tools, whatever that would be.
You guys in foreign lands - I'm glad you like what you like. I'd like it too if I was over THERE with you. Clearly this board is inclusive but I'd guess 98% of the members are in 50 states that are United so don't be surprised that we use what's prevalent in our marketplace.
Geography aside, it's hard to debate that in the U.S. Milwaukee's warranty kicks ***. I've used it several times with no problems.
And yeah, other markets get some kick-*** stuff. I keep threatening I'm gonna ask an AU member to ship me a couple M28 5.0 batteries.....
Just like my auto parts, I need my tools to be affordable and readily available. I gave up being an Audi snob and embraced 'Murican pushrod V8's. Honestly, best thing I ever did. I need my tools for work, don't need to be collecting boutique brands. If I was in Europe I'd do the same - I'd go see Monte and run the "Chevy 350" (ok I prefer the 5.3) of cordless tools, whatever that would be.
You guys in foreign lands - I'm glad you like what you like. I'd like it too if I was over THERE with you. Clearly this board is inclusive but I'd guess 98% of the members are in 50 states that are United so don't be surprised that we use what's prevalent in our marketplace.
Geography aside, it's hard to debate that in the U.S. Milwaukee's warranty kicks ***. I've used it several times with no problems.
And yeah, other markets get some kick-*** stuff. I keep threatening I'm gonna ask an AU member to ship me a couple M28 5.0 batteries.....
TomB19
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I have the older brother of Robers210 hammer drill with bits up to 2". It is awesome and will run well past my lifetime.
M18 FUEL drills are not in the same league, however they are excellent for what they are.
I'm pretty sure Panasonic has owned Sanyo since the 90s or earlier.
Eneloops are more or less on the way out. That ***** because they are, by far, the best quality NiMH batteries I've ever tested. It turns out, people don't want to spend $5 per AA cell. I have dozens of them, many of which I paid $5 per cell, and feel they are worth it.
As for Panasonic having the best LiPo batteries, that might be true but I will point out the Samsung batts in Milwaukee tools are roughly as good. Even Tesla uses Samsung as a battery supplier and they are in bed with Panasonic with QC that is the top of the industry.
M18 FUEL drills are not in the same league, however they are excellent for what they are.
I'm pretty sure Panasonic has owned Sanyo since the 90s or earlier.
Eneloops are more or less on the way out. That ***** because they are, by far, the best quality NiMH batteries I've ever tested. It turns out, people don't want to spend $5 per AA cell. I have dozens of them, many of which I paid $5 per cell, and feel they are worth it.
As for Panasonic having the best LiPo batteries, that might be true but I will point out the Samsung batts in Milwaukee tools are roughly as good. Even Tesla uses Samsung as a battery supplier and they are in bed with Panasonic with QC that is the top of the industry.
Busted_Knuckles
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Oh yeah, that's what I need, an overpriced drill, that wants to data mine my phone, my already over data mined phone.. so now the NSA, knows what Im drilling into, and how many more little pieces on a circuit board to take a dump, turning a $500 drill into a door stop. A blue tooth drill, please.
Id prefer a milwaukee drill from, I dont know, lets say 1963 ?
You all do know that Milwaukee tools has been wholly owned by a Chinese Tech conglomerate, along with, Ryobi for years now ? All made in China. I forget who else the same company bought out. I used to own almost exclusively Milwaukee back in the day, but not anymore. All new tool purchases are of other brands. Im not paying for an old name with Chinese Quality.
The Milwaukee Tool Corporation is a brand of Techtronic Industries, along with AEG, Ryobi, Hoover, Dirt Devil and Vax. Ownership history:
1924: The Milwaukee Electric Tool Corporation was established by A. F. Siebert in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
1975: Sold to Amstar.[1]
1986: Merrill Lynch acquired it.
1995: Sold to Atlas Copco.[2][3]
2005: sold to Techtronic.[4]
Techtronic Industries Company Limited (SEHK: 669, OTC Pink: TTNDY), Techtronic or TTI, is an investment holding company based in Hong Kong.[1] Its products include Milwaukee, AEG (AEG Powertools, licensed from Electrolux) , Ryobi, Homelite, Hoover US, Dirt Devil, and Vax.
TTI employs over 20,000 staff and in 2014 had worldwide annual sales of US$4.8 billion.[2] Subsidiaries include AC (Macao Commercial Offshore) Limited, Baja, Inc., Homelite Consumer Products, Inc., Hoover Inc., One World Technologies, Inc. and Sang Tech Industries Limited.
Id prefer a milwaukee drill from, I dont know, lets say 1963 ?
You all do know that Milwaukee tools has been wholly owned by a Chinese Tech conglomerate, along with, Ryobi for years now ? All made in China. I forget who else the same company bought out. I used to own almost exclusively Milwaukee back in the day, but not anymore. All new tool purchases are of other brands. Im not paying for an old name with Chinese Quality.
The Milwaukee Tool Corporation is a brand of Techtronic Industries, along with AEG, Ryobi, Hoover, Dirt Devil and Vax. Ownership history:
1924: The Milwaukee Electric Tool Corporation was established by A. F. Siebert in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
1975: Sold to Amstar.[1]
1986: Merrill Lynch acquired it.
1995: Sold to Atlas Copco.[2][3]
2005: sold to Techtronic.[4]
Techtronic Industries Company Limited (SEHK: 669, OTC Pink: TTNDY), Techtronic or TTI, is an investment holding company based in Hong Kong.[1] Its products include Milwaukee, AEG (AEG Powertools, licensed from Electrolux) , Ryobi, Homelite, Hoover US, Dirt Devil, and Vax.
TTI employs over 20,000 staff and in 2014 had worldwide annual sales of US$4.8 billion.[2] Subsidiaries include AC (Macao Commercial Offshore) Limited, Baja, Inc., Homelite Consumer Products, Inc., Hoover Inc., One World Technologies, Inc. and Sang Tech Industries Limited.
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I am pretty sure everyone here is well aware the tools are made in China but they are designed here in the USA...
So where is your TV, your computer, your cellphone, etc made?? Better throw them away and go buy the ones made in the USA, I will be waiting for your reply when you find them and type your response on a 100% made in USA phone/computer.
TomB19
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I wonder how many of the anti-Milwaukee folks have ever picked up a 1/2" M18 FUEL hammer drill and drilled a 5/8" hole in concrete. I have two corded hammer drills and the cordless drill is my best hammer drill.
I've used Milwaukee FUEL drills to swing 6" hole saws with no problem. I've heard it isn't good to use a cordless drill with a hole saw but I do it quite a bit to drill through 3/4 plywood and my drills are a few years old now. The only issue I have is the drill will break my arm, if a big hole saw binds.
These are serious tools. If you don't see the value in a high end Milwaukee FUEL drill, you don't need a drill in this class.
Now, if Milwaukee would fix the garbage chuck that spits out bits on their entry level brushed line, that would be helpful.
I've used Milwaukee FUEL drills to swing 6" hole saws with no problem. I've heard it isn't good to use a cordless drill with a hole saw but I do it quite a bit to drill through 3/4 plywood and my drills are a few years old now. The only issue I have is the drill will break my arm, if a big hole saw binds.
These are serious tools. If you don't see the value in a high end Milwaukee FUEL drill, you don't need a drill in this class.
Now, if Milwaukee would fix the garbage chuck that spits out bits on their entry level brushed line, that would be helpful.
Busted_Knuckles
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Since we where talking power tools and not consumer electronics, I will comment on them, I only buy Bosch. COO's, of Germany, Czechoslovakia, Sweden, Switzerland, and the USA... Im pulling those from memory, from looking at my tools. They do make some cordless tools in Malaysia, which last I checked is not China, but more recently part of the United Kingdom, and damn near closer to Australia than China.
BTW, I dont use my phone for removing lug nuts, and my TV ***** as a grinder, etc.
So yeah, in power tools, there are still choices, like Metabo ( Germany ), and Makita, who last time I checked, made 70 different models in the US, and have cranked out over 10m power tools from that plant, plus Japan, England, and I cant remember where else.
So there are choices, other than Milwaukee from China. And Im well aware of where they are designed, lets just say Ive done business with one of their new product people, Im that local.
When I started out ( mid 80s ), I only bought Milwaukee ( allot of which I still have ), but not any longer... YMMV...