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Usually I post photos against a a lime green/pink or lime green/purple bakground. These were were shot against red shop rags because I was taking the pics while working. Sorry for the less glamorous scenery.

I just aquired this J.H. Williams S-52 1/2 Superratchet. It's in great shape but there was some grit in the mechanism and it made me nutso. I usually soak something like this in ATF or ATF/acetone but it wasn't working fast enough and I got impatient. Besides, I've never disassembled a round head drive mechanism before. I only have pics of the reassembly.

To give away the punch line the ratchet is back together and working. Here it is reassembled and ready to turn some nuts and bolts.

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This ratchet is unique in my limited experience with round head ratchets. All the other ones I've taken apart are single pawl. This is a dual pawl setup with three tooth engagement on each pawl. No wonder they call it a superratchet. This is the drive assembly put back together. The secret to taking this apart (and successful reassembly) is the ball bearing seen right in the center against the pawl. There are more detailed images of how it works but in order to get it apart this ball bearing and the one on the other pawl both must be pressed in simultaneously while the selector switch is pulled up. Since I only have two hands it was a bit hit and miss. WARNING!!! EXTREME CAUTION must be followed or you will be tracking down ball bearings and springs. As soon as the selector switch clears the carrier the two ball bearings and spring are free to fly across the universe or use quantum tunnelling to travel to a parallel dimension.

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This is all the pieces. They have already been cleaned and I think this was one of the first photos taken. Of interest are two ball bearings and three springs, two of which are impossibly small. The tiny springs are below the two pawl pivots (cylindrical shapes) at about the 2:00 position.

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Here is the how the whole thing works and the key to disasembly. The selector switch is rotated 90* relative to the other parts in it's assembled state. The selector switch hole holds the spring and two bearings. The bearings ride against the pawls which keeps them contained and the spring/bearing works like on a typical ratchet. The hole in the carrier for the selector switch is too narrow for the bearings to pass when extended and must be held in against the spring pressure in order to lift the selector. Very clever design.

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Two closeups of the carrier.
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A pawl held in place by the pivot pin. The pivot is partially extended for the photo. It sits just slightly proud of the carrier when assembled. That pin is pretty massive this ratchet is built to work hard.

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The pins don't bottom directly on the carrier they sit on those two tiny springs. The dental tool is just to highlight the pivot pin hole.

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The bottom of the selector switch. Those two grooves are where the pivot pins ride. Again some clever engineering. The grooves limit the rotational travel of the switch relative to the carrier and the tiny springs produce the pressure.

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Standard round head setup inside except it can only be asembled one way.

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Just the easiest way to show the retaining nut.

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Reassembled and posed with most of the tools - mostly just dental tools. I used Superlube instead of RLL because I really don't want to take this apart again just to clean it. The vise is just sitting there not bolted down but it was helpful to hold the carrier. One trick was used on the tiny springs - they kept sticking to the hemostats and the dental tools. A blob of the Superlube had enough stick to keep them in place while removing the hemostats. I used a flat end of a dental tool to squash them while the pawls were slid in place. In order to get the two ball bearings to compress the spring I used a pair of needlenose pliers. I got lucky and got it on the first try.

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This ratchet seems to be amazing. I'm anxious to put it through its paces but from what I've seen so far I'm going to like it.
 
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That is just like my old Utica torque wrench, except the Uticq does not have sprngs under the pins.

How do you remove this part?
 

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Thanks for posting this !
I didnt take my b-52 that far apart but when I do I know what to expect.
Nice pics and well described:thumbup:
 

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Excellant tutorial!. I've had a B-52 for years and it's been my favorite ratchet. Since finding this lace I picked up a S-62 and am Pretty sure it's going to be my favorite 1/2" drive.

Anybody know if there is a 1/4" superrachet?
 

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Thanks for taking the time to document your procedures. I have a B-52 and an S-52 but I've never been brave enough to open them up. I really like them.

Edit: I also have a newer B-52A so I decided to take a look at the Williams catalog to see the description that is given. Well, it describes it as having a double pawl design but I have rebuilt mine, and it only has one pawl. It uses one of those "floating" pawls with a little spring to change the direction.

http://www.jhwilliamstoolgroup.com/...groupcom/Commerce/ProductImages/pdf002781.pdf
 
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Thanks for posting this !
I didnt take my b-52 that far apart but when I do I know what to expect.
Nice pics and well described:thumbup:

You're welcome. It's a bit fussy but not difficult just spread lots of shop rags around to catch little flying parts.

Excellant tutorial!. I've had a B-52 for years and it's been my favorite ratchet. Since finding this lace I picked up a S-62 and am Pretty sure it's going to be my favorite 1/2" drive.

Anybody know if there is a 1/4" superrachet?

Thanks. Based on this one I'm pretty impressed. Alloy Artifacts lists a 1/4 as an M-52 and has a picture. As a guess they're probably hard to find. Woudn't mind having one myself though. http://www.alloy-artifacts.com/williams-supercompany-p4.html


Thanks for taking the time to document your procedures. I have a B-52 and an S-52 but I've never been brave enough to open them up. I really like them.

Edit: I also have a newer B-52A so I decided to take a look at the Williams catalog to see the description that is given. Well, it describes it as having a double pawl design but I have rebuilt mine, and it only has one pawl. It uses one of those "floating" pawls with a little spring to change the direction.

http://www.jhwilliamstoolgroup.com/...groupcom/Commerce/ProductImages/pdf002781.pdf

You're welcome. The double pawl setup is pretty impressive. The single pawl design you mention is what I've seen on the RH's I've opened up.
 

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that is way too many f*king parts! LOL

FYI, just wanted to let you know that Proto is the only manufacturer that provides quantum tunnelling to other dimensions. It was not offered in the superratchet series:bounce:
 

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I have a B-52 Williams superatchet 3/8 dr, I took it apart to clean and lost the springs, grr so I see there are no more kits, grrr grrr so is anyone interested in it? Maybe 10 bucks? I have the balls and everything except the springs.

I had several of these at one time, used them back in the 80s at the plant I worked in.
 
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I have a B-52 Williams superatchet 3/8 dr, I took it apart to clean and lost the springs, grr so I see there are no more kits, grrr grrr so is anyone interested in it? Maybe 10 bucks? I have the balls and everything except the springs.

I had several of these at one time, used them back in the 80s at the plant I worked in.

Hey, I might want it. What kind of shape is it in otherwise?
 

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Alloy Artifacts lists a 1/4 as an M-52 and has a picture. As a guess they're probably hard to find. Woudn't mind having one myself though. http://www.alloy-artifacts.com/williams-supercompany-p4.html

Yep. I looked for over a decade before I got one from a fellow GJer.
Good job on the autopsy. That's an amazing design!

FYI, just wanted to let you know that Proto is the only manufacturer that provides quantum tunnelling to other dimensions. It was not offered in the superratchet series:bounce:

That explains why I keep losing my Proto tools when I put them down. :lol_hitti
 

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Hey, I might want it. What kind of shape is it in otherwise?

Its in fair shape, I'll take a pic and post up later. No telling how many of these were dropped in the ship channel, lost, or stolen. If one had a big magnet and drug the bottom next to the barges they could bring up tons of tools.
It has some scuffing from use on the head, and some wear in the knurls, also I took out the welsh pins last night, there were no springs under them, I did this at my desk so I know they weren't lost and to my knowledge this ratchet has never been apart. Its been working without those for yrs.
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JAFE,

I love it when old threads get revived after many years.

For what it's worth, I think the Williams Supperatchet design (M-52, B-52, & S-52), as old as it is, is the ultimate ratchet design. These ratchets are killer; they're simple, reliable, smooth, well balanced, and a real treat to use.

I've taken about every ratchet under the sun apart, but none are as good as the Williams Superratchets. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
 

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I have an old S-52 that was my grandfather's and then my father's. It is the smoothest ratchet I have but I haven't ever used a Snapon for comparison although I do have a Matco88, Craftsman Premium, CM RP's and SK's. And of course, the S-52 had plenty of use which may be a little smoother than a new one would. I see that 64merc says the B-52's are single pawl which does conflict with JH Williams' description. Odd that. I've been thinking of getting the B-52, etc. to complete the sizes I have but I wonder too if they are 72 teeth and double or single pawl. I definitely prefer my Williams over the SK.
 

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I see that 64merc says the B-52's are single pawl which does conflict with JH Williams' description. Odd that. I've been thinking of getting the B-52, etc. to complete the sizes I have but I wonder too if they are 72 teeth and double or single pawl. I definitely prefer my Williams over the SK.

I have a S53, S52, and B52. They are all dual pawl, 80 teeth ratchets just like the OP. I have a M53a, which is a 40 tooth single pawl design. I don't know for sure, but it seems like the newer -a models may be different.
 
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i have one of those and i cannot get the lock ring to spin. whats your secret?

Mine was almost loose but all you need is a small flat blade screwdriver and hold the ratchet in a vice or have someone hold and using the screwdriver in one of the slots, tap it in the loosening direction. It shouldn't take much force.
 

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Well crud didn't know these were such good tools, I figured as much as we lost them and abused them the plant would buy cheap. I still have some wrenches and sockets. I'm going through my tool set and cleaning everything up, throwing away the junk, trading in some broken craftsman and snap on, and rebuilding all my old ratchets. My tool set dates back to 1980. Bought my first set at Whites auto, it was a Thorsen set, like ~$25 Since then many pieces have been added, its a mess.
BTW is there anything to get rust off wrenches?
 

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I have a B-52 Williams superatchet 3/8 dr, I took it apart to clean and lost the springs, grr so I see there are no more kits, grrr grrr so is anyone interested in it? Maybe 10 bucks? I have the balls and everything except the springs.

I had several of these at one time, used them back in the 80s at the plant I worked in.


I want it. PM sent.
 

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I was handed down a B52 from my father. I just finished opening it, disassembling everything, thoroughly cleaning it and reassembling with down superlube. I tried not to go heavy with the grease but also tried to make sure every moving surface got a little bit of grease on it. after reassembly and working the ratchet back and forth with my hands for about 10 mins, it feels great. I could feel the grease moving its way around and getting situated. The action is SO much smoother than before. Previously the ratchet had very noticeable and dry feeling "clicks". It is much smoother now. It was also pretty dirty inside between old dried up grease and grit that had found its way inside. I can't wait to put this ratchet to the test soon!
 

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Best ratchet every made period. I've got at least 6 of these and when I bought them I was smart enough to buy repair kits and the special spanner wrenches needed to take off the retaining ring. I've still got them and I've never needed any of the rebuild kits because they simply don't break. My favorite is the flex head version which is the B-54. I've only got three of these now since I gave one away. That was a mistake.
 

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Best ratchet every made period. I've got at least 6 of these and when I bought them I was smart enough to buy repair kits and the special spanner wrenches needed to take off the retaining ring. I've still got them and I've never needed any of the rebuild kits because they simply don't break. My favorite is the flex head version which is the B-54. I've only got three of these now since I gave one away. That was a mistake.

Wow I'd love to have a full set of these! Do you mind posting some pics of them? Is the flex head a round head as well? I'm very jealous!
 

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:beer: I have one in 1/2 drive and it is a smooth beast. My fave 1/2 ratchet by far. Hopefully I never need to rebuild it
 

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I have one of the 1/4 drive ones. If it's not the best 1/4 ratchet it's clos to it.

KEH
 

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Excellant tutorial!. I've had a B-52 for years and it's been my favorite ratchet. Since finding this lace I picked up a S-62 and am Pretty sure it's going to be my favorite 1/2" drive.

Anybody know if there is a 1/4" superrachet?
Yup, I have all three. After seeing this thread I will live with the slightly loud but smooth operation. I will follow rule #1: If it works don't **** with it. I would like to open up these ratchets, that I bought new, and clean and Superlube them but I know I would end up on the floor with a flashlight looking for irreplacable parts. I wonder what they were originally lubed with. I know I can soak them in ATF or some other oil but I don't want to create a mess in there.

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In the history of ratchets the Superratchet to me is the best ever produced. I've got quite a few of them in both normal and flex head and I just love them.
 

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In the history of ratchets the Superratchet to me is the best ever produced. I've got quite a few of them in both normal and flex head and I just love them.

I have an s52 and a 3/8 flexing b ratchet, and i agree, one of the best ratchets ever, and tough as nails in my experience. I use them in my home/sidejob set and I would love to find more of them. I always thought it was cool how they are held together with a spanner nut.
 

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I've got a 1/2"er that was seized up. Soaking in 50/50 acetone/ATF finally allowed me to get the retaining ring off. Now the pawl pins are frozen in the gear assembly. Tried soaking it in the 50/50 sauce - not a budging. Might have to try electrolysis. The gear teeth in the head and the pawls look OK. Will have to make a selector knob if I can ever get the mechanism working.
 

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I've got a 1/2"er that was seized up. Soaking in 50/50 acetone/ATF finally allowed me to get the retaining ring off. Now the pawl pins are frozen in the gear assembly. Tried soaking it in the 50/50 sauce - not a budging. Might have to try electrolysis. The gear teeth in the head and the pawls look OK. Will have to make a selector knob if I can ever get the mechanism working.

B man, I have one that might blow your mind. You know how the lock ring has 4 notches? I found one with just one notch. I stared at the thing trying to figure out how it was ever assembled and left the factory like that.

I also have a 1/2 incher with a hollow handle. Another one that caught me by surprise. Idk though, it’s possible it was an owner mod, but it just seems difficult and with no noticeable effect on the weight.
 
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B man, I have one that might blow your mind. You know how the lock ring has 4 nothches? I found one with just one notch. I stared at the thing trying to figure out how it was ever assembled and left the factory like that.

I also have a 1/2 incher with a hollow handle. Another one that caught me by surprise. Idk though, it’s possible it was an owner mod, but it just seems difficult and with no noticeable effect on the weight.

Probably made on Monday morning. :badteeth:
 

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I've recently picked up a B52 and 1/2" socket set off eBay. It works great, almost don't want to use it at work now..thanks for the pics on disassembling it.
 

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There is nothing quite like a real original Williams Superratchet. No, the Snap-on versions (with the 'A') are NOT the same. The original Williams company went belly-up in 1986 and was liquidated. When Snap-on acquired the company in 1993, all that was left was the intellectual property, so all the SO versions were/are made with new tooling and different designs. The parts are not interchangeable from all I've read.

I keep a 1/2" S52 on hand when it's time to get down and dirty on a stubborn job. You can almost get those old nuts to spin off the threads themselves just by showing one of these ratchets to them!

For those interested in the 1/4", the original model is M52. Not M52A.
 

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I have the 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 and a long handle 1/2. I bought them new, a long time ago. They click kind of loud and probably need some lube but operate smoothly. This tutorial confirms what I have heard before and I dread the thought of opening them. There are no spare parts, from what I hear. Parts often go to a parallel universe when I take things apart. I guess I could soak it in oil but I am not sure it is an improvement or necessary. I wonder what Williams lubed them with. If I had it apart I would use Super Lube too. Isn't that what Snap On recomnends for their ratchets?


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I have the 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 and a long handle 1/2. I bought them new, a long time ago. They click kind of loud and probably need some lube but operate smoothly. This tutorial confirms what I have heard before and I dread the thought of opening them. There are no spare parts, from what I hear. Parts often go to a parallel universe when I take things apart. I guess I could soak it in oil but I am not sure it is an improvement or necessary. I wonder what Williams lubed them with. If I had it apart I would use Super Lube too. Isn't that what Snap On recomnends for their ratchets?


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Conveniently enough I happened to get a B52 (albeit not the greatest example, some idiot drilled some holes in the handle) today. I just put it some waste oil and wiped it off and it's functioning better.
Superlube might be better, but if we are being realistic here, lubricant is lubricant, and it's a design that isn't sealed, so it's going to leak no matter what you put in it. Having some is better than none, and dipping it in a cup full of oil is better than losing a spring you'll never find a replacement for.
 
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